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Message 1144183 - Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 3:45:53 UTC

JWST price tag now put at over $8bn

Nasa says it will now cost $8.7bn to launch the James Webb Space Telescope in 2018 and operate it for five years.

The assessment - some $2bn higher than previous estimates - has emerged from documents sent to the US Congress.

James Webb is regarded as the successor to Hubble and will carry technologies capable of detecting the light from the first stars to shine in the Universe.

That actually seems reasonable to me. At the cost of 1 month of a war in Afghanistan of Iraq we can have the latest greatest space telescope. Now if the penny pinchers would unclench their cheeks it can be done. Seriously, unless the $8 billions is connected to killing people we hear screams of how expensive it is. $8 billion is the cost of 8 B2 bombers. I call it a deal if they just stop flying 8 B2's
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Message 1144202 - Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 4:48:06 UTC

$8 billion is the cost of 8 B2 bombers. I call it a deal if they just stop flying 8 B2's

If The B2s did not exist, The 8 Billion would not exist.

And if The 8 Billion did exist, there would be 1000s of competing interests for it.

Why would the 8 Billion be used for a telescope?

And if The 8 Billion was used for a Telescope, people would be saying, "if These Expensive Telescopes Didn't Exist we could buy......".

Yep, that $3000 toilet seat-if it did not exist-could feed 10 People in Appalachia for a month(substitute some African Country if you like and get 1000 people).

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Message 1144213 - Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 5:46:05 UTC - in response to Message 1144202.



If The B2s did not exist, The 8 Billion would not exist.



I'm always forced to laugh at this type of logic. It's as if the writer believes these planes drop gold bars or endless supplies of food instead of death.





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Message 1144258 - Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 11:06:08 UTC - in response to Message 1144213.

I would like to bid on that job

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Message 1144263 - Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 11:23:51 UTC

As far as I can see, the Hubble space telescope is still doing a fantastic job, although of course a more powerfull successor would be nice.

Why didn't they spend the 8 billion keeping the Shuttles flying and build an International Moon Base ???

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Message 1144587 - Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 15:29:57 UTC - in response to Message 1144263.

bureaucratic bs that keeps things from being accomplished. Small minded congressmen that can't see the money to be made for all the lobbyists tossing more money their way
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Message 1161990 - Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 21:41:27 UTC

Hmm, I thought that telescope would be up in the air by 2014. What happend? :)

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Message 1162010 - Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 23:08:09 UTC - in response to Message 1161990.

Hmm, I thought that telescope would be up in the air by 2014. What happend? :)

Politics in the USA.

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Message 1162034 - Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 23:45:29 UTC - in response to Message 1162010.
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Hmm, I thought that telescope would be up in the air by 2014. What happend? :)

Politics in the USA.


Thats shame beyond words. I was so looking forward to seeing pictures taken by the telescope. Now I have to wait 4! more years! :/

Well hopefully Chinas engagement to space science will fuel the west's fire for it.

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Message 1162049 - Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 0:50:00 UTC

It's a very advanced telescope, to be put in high orbit, not serviceable by any manned mission. It must work with no error.So the testing is very important, not to repeat the story of Hubble which went to orbit with a flawed optical system.
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Message 1162144 - Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 9:41:24 UTC
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I guess Lockheed Martin corp is building that or at least supplying majority parts of that next human brain marvel. The thing is those defense contractors all the time extending deadlines plus worstly add the cost. For the majorly short public budget and bottomless traditional budget swallower LM and others I cannot imagine where the public fate heads.
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