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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
"Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- The 42-year rule of Moammar Gadhafi appeared on the verge of collapse early Monday, with rebel supporters packing the same Tripoli square where regime loyalists had congregated for months. The celebrations came in response to rebel inroads into the capital and news that two of Moammar Gadhafi's sons -- Saif al-Islam and Saadi -- have been arrested by opposition forces. Jumma Ibrahim, a rebel spokesman based in Libya's western mountain region, said both were captured in Tripoli. International Criminal Court chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo also said Saif Gadhafi had been arrested and would be sought by court "for his participation in crimes against humanity (affecting) the Libyan people."" Sound as if an ugly civil war is coming to an end. Janice |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Sound as if an ugly civil war is coming to an end. After The End, The Real War Starts. And No Peace Prize Potus will Stop It. I am Null and Void and a Darwin Barnacle. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
We can only hope there is not too much bloodletting. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
[After The End, The Real War Starts. I can agree with this part, or at least the possibility. |
Uli Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 10923 Credit: 5,996,015 RAC: 1 |
I hope this comes to an end soon too. My only flight to Africa, started in Frankfurt, my exit Tunis, then it went on to Tripoli. That was in the early 70s. We were on high alert, because of terrorists. But all that was done in Frankfurt was, you had to claim ownership of the luggage. One bag was not claimed. Go back to the basics. Have the person take ownership, then exam the bag closer. Probably a lot cheaper and more efficient. Pluto will always be a planet to me. Seti Ambassador Not to late to order an Anni Shirt |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
Hopefully they learnt enough lessons and should build their successful new country soon following suit of some of those oil rich countries. Mandtugai! |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
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GalaxyIce Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0 |
PM Cameron has yet again cut short a replacement holiday to return to Downing Street because of it. Well done Mr Cameron Oil prices fall as rebels enter Libyan capital flaming balloons |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
PM Cameron has yet again cut short a replacement holiday to return to Downing Street because of it. Yay, Mr. Obama! I knew you could bring down gas prices, Superman! Captain America! Woo hoo! |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
11.34: Anti-Gaddafi hackers have defaced Libya's internet domain name registry, computer security company Sophos reports. BBC Monitoring says the nic.ly site currently shows a Libyan rebel flag and the words "bye bye Gaddafi". Hackers? They are probably standing over the server console. Janice |
Dr Imaginario Send message Joined: 10 Aug 11 Posts: 172 Credit: 22,735 RAC: 0 |
What is interesting, or better sad in all this is that in Syria 2000 people where killed by the government forces during their uprising. In Lybia, well we had NATO bombing Ghadafi, and now I just read the Anouncement made by the Italian Minister of Foreign Affairs, that The Lybian Oil should be controled by "international oil companies" like ENI. Well sadly there is no oil on syria. And I'm sure of one thing, the rebels that will replace ghadafi aren't better... same crap, just different flies. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
So far, everything is too unstable in Syria for arial intervention. Ghadafi was bombing his own people, the no fly zone slowed that down. Mass troop movements made targets. In Syria, they have no center of force for rebellion. In fact rebellion has not yet fully occured. This does not make it good, but it allows limited room for intervention,other than ground forces. And much like Libya, ground forces would catalyze the people against anyone who sent them in. It is up to both how they are willing to live, and how much they will endure. Sad to watch, but it does give opportunity for hope. Janice |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Syria presents a far more complicated situation compared to Libya 1) Much larger population 2) Border with Israel 3) Supported directly by Iran 4) Large Palestinian population 5) Much larger and well equipped army 6) Border with Turkey, Jordan, Iraq 7) Large Iraqi refugee population 8) Border with Lebanon and supporter of Hezbollah Navigating that mess is something NATO countries want to avoid -- especially as the much simpler Libya situation demonstrated the far edge of NATO capabilities even with the vast majority of Libyan targets being within 25 miles of the Mediterranean. Also, Syria has a very real ethnic mix of Kurds, Christians, Sunni, Shi'a, Druze and the like (in addition to the refugee population). That makes action very questionable. Adding to that is this, Russia and China got 'hustled' in the Security Council into abstaining (not vetoing) resolutions regarding Libya. That is NOT going to happen on Syria. [quote Well sadly there is no oil on syria. And I'm sure of one thing, the rebels that will replace ghadafi aren't better... same crap, just different flies.[/quote] |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
He knows it is all over, but he can't be seen to be giving up, if he wants the support of his remaining loyalists at the end of it. Gaddafi wants to fight to the last of his loyalists. I wonder if that includes himself? It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Gaddafi wants to fight to the last of his loyalists. I wonder if that includes himself? Considering the last calls from Qaddafi or Gaddafi(or however His name is spelled) were pretty scratchy and occurred about a week ago, He's more likely on the lamb heading south, maybe... But then the Rebels are fighting against rear guard decoy troops left behind, most just donned civilian outfits and melted away, My guess see the map, look for either Sabha or Taraghin where Loyalist forces were supposedly massed at. And rebel leader Mahmoud Jibril, currently in Qatar, warned that there were still places that needed urgent help, such as the southern city of Sabha which is home to many members of Col Gaddafi's tribe. Southern Libyan Desert campaign They secured the Tumu border crossing and took Al Qatrun on July 17, without a shot, also capturing a military airfield and outpost at Al Wigh near the Nigerien border. Pro-Gaddafi forces were believed to had withdrawn to Taraghin in order to block a suspected rebel advance on Sabha, but rebel forces bypassed Taraghin in their northward press in order to capture the village of Umm Al Aranib as a forward base. For once Dead or Alive sounds good, although most would like to see this reputedly insane man and His family in chains and very much alive, I'd like to see them alive too, then It will be over with for good. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
"With a name like Qgadafiy, he's GOT to be gone!" |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
"With a name like Qgadafiy, he's GOT to be gone!" He made another recording today, from an undisclosed location, Maybe Dick Chaney knows where that is? ;) The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
The one who ruled Spain for all those years? The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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