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Message 1142127 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 16:54:46 UTC

Hello,

it is now more than a month that I keep getting no new tasks from the server. The messages say: No tasks sent; This computer has finished a daily quota of 1 tasks.

If anybody can provide any help, it will be very welcome
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Message 1142137 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 17:14:52 UTC - in response to Message 1142127.  

That means you are returning bad work and the server has reduced the number of tasks it is willing to send you down to 1 per day.

When I look at the tasks you've been sent, it shows that they've been aborted by the user. Most of them appear to be AstroPulse type workunits. Have you been aborting those tasks?
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Message 1142191 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 18:30:03 UTC - in response to Message 1142137.  

Then it must be something about Comodo or NOD32 that may be blocking it, but I just can´t find the way to fix that. I´ll keep trying, though.

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Message 1142201 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 18:47:36 UTC - in response to Message 1142191.  

I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan (since trojans tend to use all available CPU cycles for malicious purposes, most AV's assume that any program using all available CPU cycles must therefore be malicious), and has blocked the app from running.


You should see if you can find a way for both of those programs to exclude the BOINC Program directory, which by default for Windows XP running BOINC v6.x or later is C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Program Data\BOINC.
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Message 1142247 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 19:59:25 UTC - in response to Message 1142201.  

I think I´ve already let those programs know that SETI is fine.
Now I wonder how could I let the server know that it is alright to send more tasks to me...it keeps sending the same message, again and again...
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Message 1142269 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 20:25:36 UTC - in response to Message 1142247.  

You'll have to wait until your quota for the day is reset, which either happens at 0:00 UTC or -8:00 UTC (Berkeley's time).


For every valid task you return, your quota will increase by 2, so while you won't be reset to max quota right away, you'll get there quickly enough.
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Message 1142297 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 21:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 1142269.  

For every valid task you return, your quota will increase by 2...

I'm not sure, but wasn't that "be doubled"?

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Message 1142591 - Posted: 19 Aug 2011, 13:41:35 UTC - in response to Message 1142201.  

I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan ...

And I'd be willing to bet that it's Not NOD32 as I use that for years on every computer without need to exclude anything.

And why gecko runs Comodo and NOD32 at the same time?


 


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Message 1142599 - Posted: 19 Aug 2011, 14:40:34 UTC - in response to Message 1142297.  

For every valid task you return, your quota will increase by 2...

I'm not sure, but wasn't that "be doubled"?

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Yes, it is doubled, not increased by two.
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Message 1142600 - Posted: 19 Aug 2011, 14:42:24 UTC - in response to Message 1142591.  

I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan ...

And I'd be willing to bet that it's Not NOD32 as I use that for years on every computer without need to exclude anything.


There's a good chance it isn't NOD32, but I do know that if you turn all options on (Potentially Unwanted Programs) and set the sensitivity to high, there's a chance NOD32 could be detecting the SETI executable as a possible trojan.
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Message 1142623 - Posted: 19 Aug 2011, 15:45:27 UTC - in response to Message 1142600.  

I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan ...

And I'd be willing to bet that it's Not NOD32 as I use that for years on every computer without need to exclude anything.


There's a good chance it isn't NOD32, but I do know that if you turn all options on (Potentially Unwanted Programs) and set the sensitivity to high, there's a chance NOD32 could be detecting the SETI executable as a possible trojan.

Maybe you are talking not about "Potentially Unwanted Programs" (PUP) but about "Potentially Unsafe applications" (which is not enabled by default)?

http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2198
http://search.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN124


 


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Message 1142628 - Posted: 19 Aug 2011, 16:12:59 UTC - in response to Message 1142623.  

I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan ...

And I'd be willing to bet that it's Not NOD32 as I use that for years on every computer without need to exclude anything.


There's a good chance it isn't NOD32, but I do know that if you turn all options on (Potentially Unwanted Programs) and set the sensitivity to high, there's a chance NOD32 could be detecting the SETI executable as a possible trojan.

Maybe you are talking not about "Potentially Unwanted Programs" (PUP) but about "Potentially Unsafe applications" (which is not enabled by default)?

http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2198
http://search.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN124


Possibly... I only know I disable PUP on all my NOD32 installs, and I knew it was enabled by default. I've seen similar PUP technologies from other AV companies cause the same problems I described.
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Message 1142759 - Posted: 19 Aug 2011, 21:21:25 UTC

Hi all,

the problem seems to have faded away, although I´m not too sure how it happened.
Thanks for your interest and advice.

BilBg, I may run both programs just for ignorance. Do you think NOD32 alone would do the job just fine??
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Message 1142858 - Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 0:14:52 UTC - in response to Message 1142759.  
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Yes, I have full confidence in NOD32 :)

This is from their site but I don't believe they lie:
http://www.eset.com/home/whyeset/compare/

They cite independent reputable sites like AV-Comparatives, AV-Test.org, Virus Bulletin

Especially look the last graph: "Missed In-the-Wild Viruses"
(0 + 0 Missed (= Everything catched) for both On-Access (= Real-Time) and On-Demand (= Manual scan) protection)

"ESET NOD32 Antivirus is the only solution in the world that has detected all real,
“In-the-Wild” worms and viruses since the inception of testing in May 1998."

Interactive Comparison:
http://www.eset.com/home/whyeset/interactive-comparison/

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Even more important:
Two different vendors' active resident (= On-Access, Real-Time) antiviruses protection often conflict with each-other.

That's why during install of NOD32 there is a warning to uninstall (or at least disable) the Real-Time protection of another antivirus/antispyware:

http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN146

"Running two antivirus products on the same computer can degrade performance and cause system instability. It is important that any previously installed antivirus software is uninstalled from your system before installing your ESET security product.
Typical uninstallation* using the Windows removal tool (Add/Remove Programs) is often insufficient."

For Uninstall:

Comodo says to use the standard "Add/Remove programs":
https://support.comodo.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=298


ESET recommends for "Uninstall your existing ESET security product" to use "Start -> All Programs -> ESET -> Uninstall"
http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2116#uninstall

And if that is not sufficient even offers the "hardcore" "ESET Uninstaller tool"
http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2289


 


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Message 1142871 - Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 0:32:35 UTC - in response to Message 1142628.  

I'd be willing to bet that one of them (Comodo or NOD32) have misidentified the SETI or AstroPulse executable as a trojan ...

And I'd be willing to bet that it's Not NOD32 as I use that for years on every computer without need to exclude anything.


There's a good chance it isn't NOD32, but I do know that if you turn all options on (Potentially Unwanted Programs) and set the sensitivity to high, there's a chance NOD32 could be detecting the SETI executable as a possible trojan.

Maybe you are talking not about "Potentially Unwanted Programs" (PUP) but about "Potentially Unsafe applications" (which is not enabled by default)?

http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2198
http://search.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN124


Possibly... I only know I disable PUP on all my NOD32 installs, and I knew it was enabled by default. I've seen similar PUP technologies from other AV companies cause the same problems I described.

PUP (PUA) was Not enabled by default on NOD32 for me (but I always use advanced install (more options/questions)(if available) for any program)
- on first install NOD32 asks you to choose "to PUP or not to PUP" ;) with disabled [Next >] button until you select (= no default choice)
- on program update (= second install of newer version) it asks if you want to keep all your current settings.


 


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Message 1142880 - Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 0:46:30 UTC - in response to Message 1142871.  

PUP (PUA) was Not enabled by default on NOD32 for me (but I always use advanced install (more options/questions)(if available) for any program)
- on first install NOD32 asks you to choose "to PUP or not to PUP" ;) with disabled [Next >] button until you select (= no default choice)
- on program update (= second install of newer version) it asks if you want to keep all your current settings.


I only use Advanced installation options as well... but I've recommended ESET to friends and they use the easy installation, which enables PUP.
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Message 1142904 - Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 1:53:47 UTC - in response to Message 1142858.  
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To add to that - when I install newer version of NOD32 I never needed to uninstall the previous, I just "install over" the working and active NOD32

The installer of NOD32 somehow disables/exits the current active version (at which time Windows starts to complain about "No antivirus protection detected" which warning disappears after a minute),
then uninstalls the old and installs the new version of NOD32 and starts it without reboot.

At that time the icon of NOD32 becomes orange with advice "it will be good to reboot now".
But I do not follow this suggestion immediately because I notice some file activity (updating) in the Data directories of NOD32 to continue for 5-10 minutes.
So I let the NOD32 to calm down for ~15 minutes before reboot.


 


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Message 1144692 - Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 21:17:28 UTC

I've not been able to get any new task now, since the 18th. Up to now everything has been fine. Would you think there is a problem or that there are just no new tasks for SETI@HOME?
I don't want to keep my computer running for no reason.

Any suggestions or help would be appreciated
(my first message to this board)
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Message 1144759 - Posted: 25 Aug 2011, 0:14:03 UTC - in response to Message 1144692.  

One of the RAID drives failed on the 18th and they shut off the splitters that create work. This should have been fixed today.
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Message 1145346 - Posted: 26 Aug 2011, 11:27:29 UTC - in response to Message 1144759.  

Any news on the splitters. I still don't have any work...getting bored 8-)
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