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Boinc will not run on same computer, different user account.
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Bugsy Send message Joined: 1 Jun 00 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,018,501 RAC: 21 |
Boinc runs fine on my normal user account as this was the account that I used to install Boinc. As I am at work all day my wife uses the PC a lot during the day so I tried to run Boinc from her user account but it will not run and just keeps saying 'wrong password'. I'm not sure where to look to put things right or even if this is the reason why it will not run. Any suggestions welcomed. |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
You'll have to uninstall BOINC and reinstall it with "Allow all users on this computer to control BOINC" selected. It's on the third installer screen and gets accessible by clicking "Advanced". Here are some screenshots. Gruß, Gundolf Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
Or, if you are not using a GPU for crunching, protected mode during the reinstall works as well (this installs as a service and runs even at the login prompt, but does NOT run the GPU at all). BOINC WIKI |
Bugsy Send message Joined: 1 Jun 00 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,018,501 RAC: 21 |
Well thanks for the advice. I am running with the GPU so will try the re-install with the all users option. Just waiting for my last Astropulse work unit to finish and I will do the re-install. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Re-install of BOINC will not touch your tasks/project files (by design at least). Just Exit BOINC completely before the install. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Bugsy Send message Joined: 1 Jun 00 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,018,501 RAC: 21 |
Cool! I'll give it a go! Thanks. |
Bugsy Send message Joined: 1 Jun 00 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,018,501 RAC: 21 |
Well! I have just tried the remove and re-install and made sure the 'all users' box was checked and it is exactly the same as before. On the second account I get the 'you need to be added by the admin' or whatever it says. No mention of a password this time though!? Any thoughts guys? |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Did you get the reboot warning at the end of install? What is the name of the installer? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.12.33_windows_intelx86.exe or http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.12.33_windows_x86_64.exe Where did it install? in: C:\Program Files\BOINC\ or in: C:\Program Files (x86)\BOINC\ Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Bugsy Send message Joined: 1 Jun 00 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,018,501 RAC: 21 |
It was the windows_x86_64.exe file. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Try another install over the previous (without uninstall) (or repair installation) and reboot after it. (Always exit BOINC before the install (so it can update and close the relevant data files) as the installation just kills the running processes boinc.exe and boincmgr.exe instead of gracefully exit them) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Bugsy Send message Joined: 1 Jun 00 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,018,501 RAC: 21 |
It doesn't appear to be possible to install over the top of the previous installation as the only options shown are repair or un-install when I run the installation software? |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
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John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
It doesn't appear to be possible to install over the top of the previous installation as the only options shown are repair or un-install when I run the installation software? That means you have exactly the same version as that which was installed. Uninstall. This is data safe is it does not delete the data. Install the same version pointing to the same data directory. BOINC WIKI |
Bugsy Send message Joined: 1 Jun 00 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,018,501 RAC: 21 |
See http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=492 Aha! That did the trick! Many thanks for that info. Did you know that even when I knew what I was looking for, 'Add user to Boinc' put in the search box on the home page, it did not bring up that info! Again thanks for putting me out of my misery! |
Bugsy Send message Joined: 1 Jun 00 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,018,501 RAC: 21 |
It doesn't appear to be possible to install over the top of the previous installation as the only options shown are repair or un-install when I run the installation software? Thanks anyway John. That was the first thing I tried with the same result. See pond grass shrimp's reply for the solution. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Did you know that even when I knew what I was looking for, 'Add user to Boinc' put in the search box on the home page, it did not bring up that info! Not that weird. My FAQs run from a separate server, we're not in any way affiliated with Seti or BOINC. :-) |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
See http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=492 Good info but are you sure it is exactly correct? In the case where the warning is about the boinc_admins group, or you want to add people to the group that's allowed to run BOINC Manager or the screen saver, use: In the case where the warning is about the boinc_users group, or you want to add people to the group that's allowed to control BOINC, through BOINC Manager, use: I think it is exactly the opposite (run vs control) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
People in the boinc_users group cannot install BOINC, thus they cannot run it. Only control it through BOINC Manager. Think running of BOINC as running the client (boinc.exe), not the GUI (boincmgr.exe). |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I have to admit, it does sound backwards. Maybe I'm too used to Active Directory, but they always teach you that an Admin has more privileges than a standard user, hence I would think that boinc_admins group has more privileges than the boinc_users group. If this is not the case, it would perfectly explain some of the user/group issues I was encountering on my own personal domain while setting up BOINC on all the workstations. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
According to this page: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientSetupLogicWinSix boinc_admins: Members of this group can change the configuration and protection settings for the BOINC client (for example the GUI RPC password and host list) and can also run the BOINC Manager and screensaver. boinc_users: Members of this group can run the BOINC Manager and screensaver. I'm not sure what means (in this context) to "run" the BOINC Manager? If you are added only in boinc_users but not in boinc_admins what can you do? Only "witness" what BOINC Manager shows? Can you e.g. suspend computation/tasks/projects, attach/detach projects, change preferences/options (these actions I will call "to control")? Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
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