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Message 1155043 - Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 23:08:31 UTC

Michael, by we I mean people who obtain information about UFO’s. For example people who read things like Project Bluebook, the U.S. air force official investigation into UFO’s. What I mean by some of what they have done is that what humans know of them is what has been learned through contact and is not very complete.
An example, working from memory so it is probably not complete. A project bluebook case in Germany where a farmer reported aliens coming to his farm in the night. The farmer reported something landing in his field in the late night and then small, large eyed creatures, who glowed, coming to his farm. He in investigated with a flashlight and saw the creatures coming from the direction of the field. When he shined his light on them they covered their large eyes and hid or ran away. He was frightened and shot one of the creatures with a shotgun. The creature glowed brighter when he shot it and ran back toward the field. When investigators looked they found a field that had been freshly plowed with radiation and an impression where the farmer said the thing landed. They found where the farmer said he shot one but found no blood. Witnesses confirmed when the field had been plowed, and all of them reported that no large equipment had been moved into or out of the area. Investigators tested the impression to determine the weight of what made it. They concluded that the impression could not have been made by any normal means they could think of. A crane could not move something to that position without entering the field and leaving tracks and if I remember correctly it would have taken more than one large crane. They checked radar from the bases and there had been nothing in the area of the farm. If you believe the farmer, and I do, you can learn something about the creatures that came there. They came in a very heavy flying object that did not show up on radar. They were small with very large eyes and reacted to the flashlight. They did not harm the farmer even after the farmer shot one. The ship and the glowingness that seems to protect them from the shotgun indicate they are advanced. Them coming there says they are curious. Large eyes and reacting to the light indicates they see in the same spectrum the flashlight makes and they are from somewhere dark by our standards. They were not violent even when attacked. Other than that what do we know? We know nothing of their culture, religion, social structure, home planet other than it is probably darker than ours. Did they make their ship to avoid radar or is it a byproduct of its construction or materials? Is it like a giant solar cell absorbing everything including radar? We can learn something from their visit but not near enough to know what they will do or what they have done in the past.

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Message 1155183 - Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 9:36:27 UTC

Will, thanks for that.

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Message 1162903 - Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 15:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 1155183.

I can imagine the presents of a ALIEN (SpaceCraft), could create panic, but
why is our Militairy Defence developing strategies and weapons to state,
human-kind is not going to wait and sit down, if an invasion of ALIENs and their SpaceCraft(s) would/could cause/pose a threat.

If 'they' are able to be in the universe for a long time, they must have some kind of protection against radiation (from the universe or stars), some sort of shield.
This would make this SpaceCraft a difficult object to approach or attack.

They also would have be ahead of our technology and probably withstand
virusses, bacteria, etc., so 'partly humanoïd' and machine (Cyborg)

This would make us an easy target, if they have other then friendly, reasons
for visiting this planet.

They've come up with some bizar stuff, large holes, a few 100 or more meters
deep filled with water, a Nuclear Device on the bottom, top is sealed to build up presure.
When ignited, all the energy most Gamma Rays would make steam of the water, in a few milliseconds and shoot it in space, the seal could really do
some serious damage, if it's made of a solid and heavy material.

If you create a Nucleair Explosion in space, it would render little effect,
1-- No Shock-Wave, c.q. presure wave.
2-- No heat build up.
3-- Only radiation, which imposes no threat to 'them'. (Shield)
4-- The E.M.P. created, would only cause problems for ourselfs.(If the Earths
magnetic field, doesn't shield us, enough!).




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Message 1163177 - Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 12:30:46 UTC

I would think that if there are any UFO's they would more likely be unmanned robotic drones. If we have been visited then it was most likey many thousands of years ago, and not currently.

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Message 1163236 - Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 16:53:57 UTC - in response to Message 1163177.

I would think that if there are any UFO's they would more likely be unmanned robotic drones. If we have been visited then it was most likey many thousands of years ago, and not currently.


Probably true and if 'they' found a way to make 'copies' or some sort of reproduction,
I hope they'll try again, so we can get a chance to see or notice ' them '.

If they've visited, this earth before, it could be shocking, seeing the 10 fold, or more increase of inhabitants and the changes made, compaired to (a) thousand(s) years ago!
Making it unlikely, visiting earth again, or with different intentions!
We changed and we changed the earth, why should 'someone' want to visit this planet, unless it's their only option, or need some recourses still available, like H2O.

But this is all speculation, we are trying to explore our 'own' galaxy and 'universe' or multiverse, as more and more ideas come to mind, we will succeed, or being wiped out.
Our geatest 'enemy' is still our incapabillity to fight bacteria and virusses, successfully.
Seeing, our latest discoveries are hardly a hundred years old, we also have a long way
to go. Let alone, travelling through space, at more then the speed off light.
(Not possible, according to our earthly science, or way of thinking.)

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Message 1172544 - Posted: 20 Nov 2011, 19:05:14 UTC - in response to Message 1153526.

No advanced aliens have recently visited Earth, We would be able to hear them on their own planet. We have been looking and listening for 50 years and have found nothing.

If they came here on a 1000 year journey with a big Mother ship that housed all of the flying saucers and other craft we would have been able to detect them in orbit.

It may not be true that we can detect them from here. The radio signals may be too weak to get here with any real strength. The signals may not be on the frequencies we monitor. They could be coming from a part of the sky we haven't observed yet. There could have been signals before we even existed. There may be life now, but they aren't using primitive radio signals. There are so many possibilities.

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Message 1172546 - Posted: 20 Nov 2011, 19:13:00 UTC

I am sure there are unidentified flying onjects out there that cannot be expained by our current knowlege. But what they are, and whether they are of extraterrestrial origin, has yet to be determined.

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Message 1172893 - Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 2:19:11 UTC

Absolutely correct. It is much easier to debunk the possible existence and presence of UFO's rather than it is to debunk Seti@home!

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Message 1172895 - Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 2:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 1154333.

If you are a minister, you are not supposed to be in here.

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Message 1173026 - Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 15:19:20 UTC

Perhaps I was a little too mean. Sorry about that.

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