When people think they can vote to loot the treasury and not pay the taxes to fill the treasury they are up undergraduate creek without even a frat paddle. Basing payouts upon economic peaks rather than on current tax revenues is something only a democratic electorate could be sold.

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Unvarnished
Haaretz
Jerusalem Post
The origin of the Yahweh Cult

There will likely be a discussion in Parliament shortly about the UK withdrawing from the EU. Can't be soon enough.

..and pigs will fly before that happens.

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IMV, long term is not an option, the UK & Ireland needs to withdraw ASAP. As for trade being difficult, the UK managed ok before entry into the EEC(EU now).

Membership of that corrupt "Gentleman's Club" has always been a political one - and one that is now coming home to bite the ass of the politicians.

This article spells it out clear enough that even the most ignorant layman can understand......

Euro is as bad as gin in a baby's bottle

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The problem facing Europe is this. If we don't bail out these 4 countries and let them go to the dogs, what will happen? Answer, you will have economic migration of people to the richer EU countries, looking for a better quality of life elsewhere. We have already seen that with Eastern Europe, where extra stress is being put on the stronger countries.

Don't think so. If those 4 go, it'll be the end of the EU & the Euro, which will then force each country that is currently in the EU to get their act together.

It'll also prevent mass migration as the right to move freely within the EU's borders will no longer be valid.

That will also allow each nation to get rid of those stupid EU laws like the Human Rights Act!

As far as I'm concerned, the quicker the better for the simple fact is this: - THERE is no strong leadership anywhere within the EU as it currently stands.

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It'll also prevent mass migration as the right to move freely within the EU's borders will no longer be valid.

Sorry, wrong. They'll all claim Political Assylum and get away with it.

Not so sure. If the EU died, it'll give this government the opportunity they've been waiting for & that is to get rid of the EU laws & also tighten up some of our own.

applying for PA won't be as easy as in the past in that case. But again, this will all be down to a strong leadership...

Don't know about Europe, but I think we need another Winnie here asap!

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........"AND IT CAME TO PASS"........

........"AND IT CAME TO PASS"........

Thank god

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Let's not jump the gun here. Of course it would be nice if that actually happened, but do you really think it will?

My favourite quote is: - "Money Talks, Honesty Walks".

There is no way in hell will the money men & the corrupt politicians let that happen.

Remember the "Lisbon Treaty"? Ireland rejected it, yet the greedy pigs running the largest trough in the world known collectively as the EU, kept on at them until that NO became a YES!

THAT speaks volumes about all the leaders of Europe. Ireland used to be famous for its "Leprechauns", well I'm afraid all the citizens of Europe are now leprechauns, the little people & WE DON'T COUNT!

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If this continues European Markets Fall then maybe this.......

........"AND IT CAME TO PASS"........

Will actually come to pass.

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Remember the "Lisbon Treaty"? Ireland rejected it, yet the greedy pigs running the largest trough in the world known collectively as the EU, kept on at them until that NO became a YES!

The above is why people should be so wary of Politicians. Ireland voted No but because the elite in Brussels wonted their own way they rigged the treaty to make it seem that all was now in Ireland's favour. They then orchestrated another vote so to get the decision to go their way. Cameron was asked last week why are the British not been given the referendum again on Europe. His reply because they gave it a resounding "Yes" vote 30 years ago.(Forgetting of course that back then people were voting for economic unity and not political unity). So again the Politicians dig themselves holes to fall in. So the rule of the game here is quite clear, "In the game of football of the Populous V Politicians, the referees decision is final when the whistle is blown against the Populous team but when blown against the Politicians team the referees decision can be negotiable, will be negotiated and a decision made only when the Politicians are happy with it".
Clearly there is something wrong with this rule of the game. No wonder the West is in such turmoil. Nero's of the West!...put down your bows & fiddles for the West is starting to burn around your heads.

Jeebers, now that is a statement & a half.....

"Populous v Politicians"

Nice one Michael.

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Jeebers, now that is a statement & a half.....

"Populous v Politicians"

Nice one Michael.

Thanks Sirius...Ruddy Euro did Ireland no favours. Had their politicians listened to the electorate in the first place all would be relatively well with the economy
bar a bit of "turning-on of the printing presses for a short while".

Jeebers, now that is a statement & a half.....

"Populous v Politicians"

Nice one Michael.

Thanks Sirius...Ruddy Euro did Ireland no favours. Had their politicians listened to the electorate in the first place all would be relatively well with the economy
bar a bit of "turning-on of the printing presses for a short while".

totally agree. since my mother's death & the taking of her ashes home in '97, I've popped home regularly & the economy was booming to the extent that many from Wales were going over EVERY weekend...that is until Ireland had to switch over to the Euro...since then, it's all been downhill....

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The Eurozone made a mistake by including weaker economies.
Including countries like England, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy et all
was a an act of charity. These countries all have an exaggerated sense of etitlement
of the populace, while bringing little to the common sense of community and productivity that the Eurozone was meant to engender.

2 out of 10 for the above effort. The country most likely to bring the Euro to an end will be France if things get much worse. The reason being that it's own financial position is steadily getting worse, most people seem not to realise this about France. By the way, yes the UK economy was weak when it joined the Common Market but by the early 2000's it was the fourth largest economy in the world plus the second largest in the Euro zone. Currently France is the second largest economy in the Euro zone. If Scotland was to be given their full independence the UK then would become again the second largest economy in the Euro zone again...Euro standing for European in this instance.

The smart thing to do would be to lop off the dysfunctioning economies within
the European Union, because of exaggerated entitlement expectations by the populace
of these countries,and invest the ever increasing bailout money needed to save
them into countries vying for entry into the Union where expectations
are lower, and a greater number of people will benefit.

Just leaves us then with Germany on it's own.

All the problem economies just end up blaming the European Union for their
problems anyway.

In the case of Ireland then this is was the European Union's fault. Forced them into the wretched Euro against the initial will of the populous.

With the onset of the rise of China who soon will become the greatest economy
on earth what measures will the west take to combat this. Further
integration of States joining up together. What will the USA do for
eventually they will do something. Pursue a block of nations tied
together like we have in Europe with their own common currency. Will
the countries of South America join up with those of North America
and that of Canada too. It's got to be on the cards one day!...just
be ready for it...so plan early, you have been forewarned.

Ah, UN one world government.

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Whats this I hear rumored. France to be downgraded and French banks failing?

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Whats this I hear rumored. France to be downgraded and French banks failing?

Watch this space...