Message boards :
Politics :
Eurozone Crisis
Message board moderation
Author | Message |
---|---|
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
When people think they can vote to loot the treasury and not pay the taxes to fill the treasury they are up undergraduate creek without even a frat paddle. Basing payouts upon economic peaks rather than on current tax revenues is something only a democratic electorate could be sold. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
There will likely be a discussion in Parliament shortly about the UK withdrawing from the EU. Can't be soon enough. ..and pigs will fly before that happens. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
IMV, long term is not an option, the UK & Ireland needs to withdraw ASAP. As for trade being difficult, the UK managed ok before entry into the EEC(EU now). Membership of that corrupt "Gentleman's Club" has always been a political one - and one that is now coming home to bite the ass of the politicians. This article spells it out clear enough that even the most ignorant layman can understand...... Euro is as bad as gin in a baby's bottle |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
snip Don't think so. If those 4 go, it'll be the end of the EU & the Euro, which will then force each country that is currently in the EU to get their act together. It'll also prevent mass migration as the right to move freely within the EU's borders will no longer be valid. That will also allow each nation to get rid of those stupid EU laws like the Human Rights Act! As far as I'm concerned, the quicker the better for the simple fact is this: - THERE is no strong leadership anywhere within the EU as it currently stands. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It'll also prevent mass migration as the right to move freely within the EU's borders will no longer be valid. Not so sure. If the EU died, it'll give this government the opportunity they've been waiting for & that is to get rid of the EU laws & also tighten up some of our own. applying for PA won't be as easy as in the past in that case. But again, this will all be down to a strong leadership... Don't know about Europe, but I think we need another Winnie here asap! |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
........"AND IT CAME TO PASS"........ |
GalaxyIce Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0 |
|
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Let's not jump the gun here. Of course it would be nice if that actually happened, but do you really think it will? My favourite quote is: - "Money Talks, Honesty Walks". There is no way in hell will the money men & the corrupt politicians let that happen. Remember the "Lisbon Treaty"? Ireland rejected it, yet the greedy pigs running the largest trough in the world known collectively as the EU, kept on at them until that NO became a YES! THAT speaks volumes about all the leaders of Europe. Ireland used to be famous for its "Leprechauns", well I'm afraid all the citizens of Europe are now leprechauns, the little people & WE DON'T COUNT! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
If this continues European Markets Fall then maybe this....... ........"AND IT CAME TO PASS"........ Will actually come to pass. |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
Remember the "Lisbon Treaty"? Ireland rejected it, yet the greedy pigs running the largest trough in the world known collectively as the EU, kept on at them until that NO became a YES! The above is why people should be so wary of Politicians. Ireland voted No but because the elite in Brussels wonted their own way they rigged the treaty to make it seem that all was now in Ireland's favour. They then orchestrated another vote so to get the decision to go their way. Cameron was asked last week why are the British not been given the referendum again on Europe. His reply because they gave it a resounding "Yes" vote 30 years ago.(Forgetting of course that back then people were voting for economic unity and not political unity). So again the Politicians dig themselves holes to fall in. So the rule of the game here is quite clear, "In the game of football of the Populous V Politicians, the referees decision is final when the whistle is blown against the Populous team but when blown against the Politicians team the referees decision can be negotiable, will be negotiated and a decision made only when the Politicians are happy with it". Clearly there is something wrong with this rule of the game. No wonder the West is in such turmoil. Nero's of the West!...put down your bows & fiddles for the West is starting to burn around your heads. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Jeebers, now that is a statement & a half..... "Populous v Politicians" Nice one Michael. |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
Jeebers, now that is a statement & a half..... Thanks Sirius...Ruddy Euro did Ireland no favours. Had their politicians listened to the electorate in the first place all would be relatively well with the economy bar a bit of "turning-on of the printing presses for a short while". |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Jeebers, now that is a statement & a half..... totally agree. since my mother's death & the taking of her ashes home in '97, I've popped home regularly & the economy was booming to the extent that many from Wales were going over EVERY weekend...that is until Ireland had to switch over to the Euro...since then, it's all been downhill.... |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
The Eurozone made a mistake by including weaker economies. 2 out of 10 for the above effort. The country most likely to bring the Euro to an end will be France if things get much worse. The reason being that it's own financial position is steadily getting worse, most people seem not to realise this about France. By the way, yes the UK economy was weak when it joined the Common Market but by the early 2000's it was the fourth largest economy in the world plus the second largest in the Euro zone. Currently France is the second largest economy in the Euro zone. If Scotland was to be given their full independence the UK then would become again the second largest economy in the Euro zone again...Euro standing for European in this instance. |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
The smart thing to do would be to lop off the dysfunctioning economies within Just leaves us then with Germany on it's own. |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
All the problem economies just end up blaming the European Union for their In the case of Ireland then this is was the European Union's fault. Forced them into the wretched Euro against the initial will of the populous. |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
With the onset of the rise of China who soon will become the greatest economy on earth what measures will the west take to combat this. Further integration of States joining up together. What will the USA do for eventually they will do something. Pursue a block of nations tied together like we have in Europe with their own common currency. Will the countries of South America join up with those of North America and that of Canada too. It's got to be on the cards one day!...just be ready for it...so plan early, you have been forewarned. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Ah, UN one world government. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Whats this I hear rumored. France to be downgraded and French banks failing? |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
Whats this I hear rumored. France to be downgraded and French banks failing? Watch this space... |
©2024 University of California
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.