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I have asus p6t motherboard and the video slots are the 1st slot is 16x and the 2nd slot is 4x.I have 2 460 cards slot 1 runs at 16x and slot 2 runs at 4x and I can not change this in the bios. So my question is what lga 1366 boards have 2 16x slots and will the second slot running at 4x affect any cuda wu's slower than the 16x slot doing cuda wu's? | |
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I can't definitively say if it will affect Nvidia Seti crunching, but I have a board running X16 X4 that I do Mikyway on ATI HD 5870 cards in both slots, and it does not seem to affect the speed of the second card for that project, making me think it shouldn't have a huge effect here either, but can't say for sure. Right now I am doing Seti on the X4 card in this system here, so if you feel like it, you could try to find another system with a 5870 in it and compare times to mine. As for a 1366 board with 2 X16 slots, the other system I have uses an Asus Sabertooth X58 board that has 2 X16 and one X4, it's a pretty good board and not that expensive. I'm sure others will chime in with other choices. | |
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When it comes to crunching, there is little difference between an x4 and an x16 slot for a card. Simply make sure that the x4 slot is x16 size in length, since an x16 card will not physically fit in an x4 slot. | |
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It will some. My ancient P43 board has 1 x16 (ver 2) and 1 x4 (ver 1) slot and I had my 8800 GTS in the x4 slot for a while. The slow slot had maybe a 10% impact on MB crunching. The faster your card is or the more demanding (data wise) the application, the bigger impact you could possibly see when using a slower slot. Crunching the same Nvidia AP with a 460 using a 16x(v2) or 4x(v1) could make quite a difference, I think. Lt | |
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I run 2 setups here with 2x 9800GT's in them and they both have a 16x/4x slot combination but there is absolutely no difference in crunching between them no matter which slot they are in. ;) | |
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The only problems I am having is that the the newer drivers crashes my system unless I run the supplied driver 258.96 when I run the newer drivers 26x.xx drivers I have blue screens and dump and or a black screens. The second card when doing cuda wu runs around 93F though is hot asus web site says 105F it can run. | |
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I run 2 setups here with 2x 9800GT's in them and they both have a 16x/4x slot combination but there is absolutely no difference in crunching between them no matter which slot they are in. ;) Of course impact will also depend some on the characteristics of each particular system, cpu, ram, etc. Lt edited... | |
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The only problems I am having is that the the newer drivers crashes my system unless I run the supplied driver 258.96 when I run the newer drivers 26x.xx drivers I have blue screens and dump and or a black screens. The second card when doing cuda wu runs around 93F though is hot asus web site says 105F it can run. Edit of my post I got the F and C confused the temps are in Celsus and not Fahrenheit and Nvidia instead asus and it is 104C max temp.. ____________ | |
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Don't know what video card you're using, but generally speaking, 93C is pretty darn toasty to run a video card at continuously. I wouldn't do it unless I was just waiting for a card to die so I could get something new, especially if the max is only about 10C above that. I also assume that's the GPU temp, which means the VRM temps are probably somewhat higher than that. I don't like to run my cards 24/7 over mid-70s, but I also would like them to last a good long while, given that I paid a fair amount for them. If it was my setup, I'd look at what I could do to bring the temp down some. | |
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Don't know what video card you're using, but generally speaking, 93C is pretty darn toasty to run a video card at continuously. I wouldn't do it unless I was just waiting for a card to die so I could get something new, especially if the max is only about 10C above that. .... If it was my setup, I'd look at what I could do to bring the temp down some. I fully agree with Dave on this, you REALLY should explore ways to reduce GPU temperature! I use Asus' SmartDoctor II to control (& monitor) my Asus ENGTX580 videocard (I use it to crunch 4 Main Beam WUs simultaneously). I've configured Fan Control to step up vidcard fan speed as GPU temperatures increase, and my GPU temperature stays below 60C (140F) when crunching full load. Note: SmartDoctor requires you have an appropriate Asus vidcard - I've read there are other 3rd party free utilities to control Fan speed and monitor GPU temperatures - maybe others here can point you to some. ____________ Sabertooth Z77, i7-3770K@4.2GHz, GTX680, W8Pro x64 P5N32-E SLI, C2D E8400@3Ghz, GTX580GT/1536MB, Win7SP1Pro x64 & PCLinuxOS2013 | |
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I have some 120mm fans positioned in my rigs in front of the GPU cards to force feed their cooling fans some outside air. I have a 120 fan blowing on mine with the side panel off and it still runs this hot. I bought this just to crunch with and it matches my first card. It's an old case with the psu at the top. I think I need a new case with the psu at the bottom to give some air around the card as it is now it sits at the bottom of the case and not much air flows around it because it sits at the bottom of the case. ____________ | |
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Mine is the lower one that gets hot from the top card if I had some space at the bottom of the case I think it would run cooler. | |
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Also, regular dust clearing from the heatsink of that bottom card in particular may be in order with it being sat in the bottom of your case. Once heasinks become clogged temperatures quickly rise. | |
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Also, regular dust clearing from the heatsink of that bottom card in particular may be in order with it being sat in the bottom of your case. Once heasinks become clogged temperatures quickly rise. That's very good thinking there. I have since updated to the new beta driver 280.19 and my temps have dropped to upper card is 60C and the bottom is at 71C and I am doing 2 cuda ap wu's per card also so the new driver is cooler on my cards. ____________ | |
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PCIE numbers seem to make little difference in my opinion. I run a number of multi card computers of interest here, one has 2xPCIE 16 sockets running at 16x and 4x. Two other boards have 3 slots running at 8x, 8x and 1x. | |
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I have an x16 and an x4 pcie slot in this old pc, with a pair a of GTX295 single pcb cards in Her that I run 6 hours a night, they do pretty well really. | |
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PCIE numbers seem to make little difference in my opinion. I tend to agree with T.A. on the basis that all the crunching work is done on the NV card RAM. The only time the PCI-E bandwidth is tested is when the data is transferred to the GPU for crunching, and any small support the CPU gives. The only times PCI-E bandwidth is, therefore, tested is when data is uploaded to crunch and completed results is downloaded. ____________ It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues | |
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For 2 1/2 years, after S@h had the first CUDA app, someone made a test with his IIRC 9800 GPU and different PCIe slot speeds. | |
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