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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22841 Credit: 4,534,308 RAC: 5,558	Message 1135194 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011, 13:42:27 UTC
	The names of the five neighbourhoods which will be built on the site of London's Olympic Park after the 2012 Games have been revealed. The new suburbs will be called Chobham Manor, Eastwick, Marshgate Wharf, Sweetwater and Pudding Mill. Up to 35% of them will be affordable housing, in-line with the Mayor of London's plan. Oh very innovative I must say, not a lot of thought went into that then. And we all know what "affordable housing" means. One parent families with feral kids, and unemployed boyfriends parking old bangers outside. All we will get is the usual East London but in slightly posher houses. Boris old son, you've blown it yet again. (Boris Johnson, Mayor of London)
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Bathybius & Eozoon Nummulosphere Bound Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 1308 Credit: 2,387,357 RAC: 2,940	Message 1135201 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011, 14:02:07 UTC
	I've watched the TV Show EastEnders. Most of the people were walking everywhere. The only old-bangers I saw.....hehehe, nevermind. Manor Bred and University Educated. Ah, The Good Life. I am Null and Void. And a Darwin Barnacle.
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Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1298 Credit: 1,709,016 RAC: 2,741	Message 1135235 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011, 22:15:45 UTC
	Oh very innovative I must say, not a lot of thought went into that then. And we all know what "affordable housing" means. One parent families with feral kids, and unemployed boyfriends parking old bangers outside. All we will get is the usual East London but in slightly posher houses. Boris old son, you've blown it yet again. (Boris Johnson, Mayor of London) Affordable housing...the way to build houses for unmarried mothers. The brain-child of "Hen Deadrock" sorry I meant "Ken Livingstone" Affordable housing..what is affordable housing? Houses built on the cheap. Built to the smallest size you can get away with and built on land where no one normally wishes to reside. What land?..what land does no one wish to reside on? er'..that land running along the side of underground RAILWAY lines for a start...NOT ALL UNDERGROUND RAILWAY LINES ARE ACTUALLY "UNDERGROUND" But they buy these houses though?...no they don't, it's the Housing Associations that buys em' then rents them out to them problem family lots plus the unemployed immigrants too. Affordable housing was the way Government got over the problem of having no council housing stock anymore. Told developers that if they wonted planning permission to build on certain land plots they would have to build "X" amount of council (oooops sorry) affordable housing on these plots too. What were these certain plots....THEM PLOTS NO ONE WISHES TO RESIDE ON !!! This is all before I start on that Olympics fiasco....no asking me,"Would you mind he we add a couple of pounds to your council tax each month to pay for the Olympic Games". "Well, we are going to rejuvenate the South of London with it too". If rejuvenating the South of London was a viable proposition then commercial industry/developers would have done this out of their own pockets 30 years ago !!! Governments and local governments too can come out with some of the most moronic bunkum you could ever wish to hear.....the thing is "They believe in their own rhetoric" Yes, the gun-dog has finally taken charge of the gun!!..So here we have another prime example of "democracy". UK democracy, especially, where it begins when you post into the ballot box then ends once you let go of the voting slip. Move over Obama MJH is marching in to take over the world. You Brits can't sit in the White House oval office!! But Iy's can cos I'ys chews 'garm' and I'ys drinks 'Coke'..don't that make me an "ARL-AMERICAN BLOKE"....Umm...anyway, as I was saying.....
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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22841 Credit: 4,534,308 RAC: 5,558	Message 1135411 - Posted: 3 Aug 2011, 8:18:39 UTC
	Some years ago the Government realised that there were a significant number of young people who at the beginning of their careers couldn't afford the deposits or the mortgage payments to get on the housing ladder. They came out with a scheme in partnership with Housing Associations called affordable housing. It means that typically you buy 25% of the property on mortgage, and rent the rest. As your circumstances inprove you have the right to buy higher percentages of the property on morgage, eventually owning it all outright. The scheme was reasonably laudable you have to say. But what happens in practice is that you won't get planning permission for a block of flats or a housing estate unless at least 30% is designated as affordable housing. And yes the council will take the opportunity to offload some of their more troublesome tenants. You wont see very many young married working couples there, that it was supposed to benefit. But back on topic, the Olympic village was a neccessity for the 2012 games, could have been Jerry built and got rid of afterwards, but the plan to provide new housing for a traditionally deprived area of London was partly the reason for obtaining the Government investment in the Olympics. Current cost £7 billion, expected cost £9+ billion. No private enterprise could have afforded to rejuvenate the area without significant government investment which had hitherto not been forthcoming. BTW it's East London not South London where the Olympic site is being built, and because it is the Olympics money will be spent as necessary to ensure it all happens, despite budgets. It will put £33 per year on the rates bill for each household in London which is 60p a week. I'd rather the government picked up the whole bill, but the UK population were quite keen for the country to land the bid, so fair enough. But they say as it is in London why should people in Manchester pay for it? I just hope we don't end up eith a handfull of sink housing estates in 10 years time, what a sad legacy that would be.
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Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1298 Credit: 1,709,016 RAC: 2,741	Message 1135458 - Posted: 3 Aug 2011, 13:26:17 UTC - in response to Message 1135411. Last modified: 3 Aug 2011, 13:27:20 UTC
	But back on topic, the Olympic village was a neccessity for the 2012 games, could have been Jerry built and got rid of afterwards, but the plan to provide 60p a week. I'd rather the government picked up the whole bill, but the UK population were quite keen for the country to land the bid, so fair enough. But they say as it is in London why should people in Manchester pay for it? I just hope we don't end up eith a handfull of sink housing estates in 10 years time, what a sad legacy that would be. [/quote] Yar...East London, but generally South of me....iiiiiish...hmm The UK population were quite keen for the country to land the bid. May be so but had Manchester, Birmingham or Liverpool won the Olympic bid then the whole country would have had to pay for it, for none of them could have come up with the finances. Still, how poignant politicians are today, HST2 required to revitalise the North where was revitalisation for the North when the Olympics was being bid for. Ah well, we ain't got the transport networks up north to cope with the Olympics. Right, so you would never win a bid for them then. So you want the UK to hold the Olympics knowing only London can host them, then when won and asked to cough-up some money, "Oh no why should we it's in London so they should pay" The trouble with people up-north is they create the North/South divide for their own convenience at times. But it's been a lost opportunity for them, no Olympic developments going on up North that I can see. Also not written in stone that HST2 will come to their supposed rescue either. When the government comes to dot the "I's" cross the "T's" then check their back pockets, oh dear, suddenly find they 'aint got the £39+++++++ billions to spend on it.
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Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 922 Credit: 99,993 RAC: 197	Message 1135806 - Posted: 4 Aug 2011, 6:10:32 UTC
	The transformation process is interesting to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9prmF994Ja4 ____________ Mandtugai!
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6758 Credit: 1,283,817 RAC: 656	Message 1135829 - Posted: 4 Aug 2011, 7:12:26 UTC - in response to Message 1135806.
	The transformation process is interesting to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9prmF994Ja4 Yes, gotta admit it does look good on Video & also from the air. However, what is not shown are the changes to the area that does not make any sense whatsoever. I lived in Hackney for over 25 years & often used shortcuts via local roads to get to Leytonstone/Leyton/Stratford & further points east rather than use the major routes as this often meant going out of one's way & also being stuck in traffic jams. I was down there recently & tried to access those shortcuts to save time on the return journey...access denied due to olympic stadium building going on. The point is that there are no olympic building going on at those specific locations. They are blocking access to various areas..... .....Money men talking? A La Docklands/Canary Wharf....properties for the ultra rich again? ____________
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