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Message 1131965 - Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 22:10:42 UTC

I am fed up of all tasks coming up as errors. I have no problems with Einstein@home or Cosmology@home so it's not me. Let me know when you know what happening and i'll rejoin. Thank you for wasting my time.

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Message 1131971 - Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 22:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 1131965.

All your wingmen are able to download all that work without a problem, so this means it is you(r system) that has the problem. You also seem to have managed to download 3 tasks without a problem, meaning that whatever may have caused the interference has now ceased to interfere. You may want to check what that may have been. Especially on wifi connections outside sources can cause interference.

And I'm sorry to say this, but last I checked it's your computer doing the calculations, so how can any download problems be a waste of your time? Were you sitting at the ready with your pocket calculator, 5 pencils of different hardness, a pencil sharpener, 2 erasers and a boatload of paper, waiting for the first task to come in so you could go do the math?
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Message 1152906 - Posted: 16 Sep 2011, 21:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 1131971.

There is no need for your rudeness and i apologise for not being a computer boffin or scientist or acedemic merely a layman with an interest in cosmology. I say wasting my time because i spent many hours trying to find the cause of the problem to no avail. As i stated I have encountered no problems with Einstein@home or Milkyway@home. I can assure you that no tasks were downloaded sucessfully no matter what you say. Maybe you should get of your pedestal and be more constructive instead of being an arrogant *****.
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Message 1153167 - Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 12:59:35 UTC - in response to Message 1152906.

If your time is so valuable and you're angry about wasting it, wouldn't it make logical sense to merely ask here on the boards what the problem may be instead of firing off accusations and unconfirmed statements?

Being that most everyone else on the project are not experiencing the same errors as you, wouldn't it then follow logically that the problem cannot be the fault of the project, but isolated to your system?

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Message 1153421 - Posted: 18 Sep 2011, 1:35:30 UTC - in response to Message 1153167.

check again you seem to have downloaded a WU on 9/15. Whether it completes is not up to us. As far as the download failures it appears that isn't happening anymore. If you are able to complete your task you should be allowed more work.
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Message 1153736 - Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 0:45:02 UTC - in response to Message 1152906.


If you want to use older BOINC version use 6.10.60
(and not 6.8.13 which was never released as final, they jumped from 6.6.x to 6.10.x)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php


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Message 1153927 - Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:53:52 UTC

I have been attempting to download WU for the past week. I get the message that download failed. Quite frustrating. Windows 7, 64 bit, running version 6.10.60.
I tried the newer version also with no results.
AMD quad core, 4GB and 1024 GPU. 1 terabyte HD.
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Message 1153932 - Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 17:15:14 UTC - in response to Message 1153736.

and not 6.8.13 which was never released as final, they jumped from 6.6.x to 6.10.x

Progress through Processors (PtP) is still available, through its Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/progressthruprocessors. The latest version available is 6.8.30

PtP is an Intel sponsored version of BOINC.
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Message 1154526 - Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 15:52:05 UTC

I have about 4 machines that all seem to have been exhibiting the same errors:
Here is the last "try" from two of those machines. I tend to see this type of thing frequently, including having problems uploading results. I did have a computational error last week but that appears to no longer be in my task list.

This problem will clear up for a while then come back. I'm concerned that with such errors that my committed processing time to the effected SETI projects may be wasted. Especially when I have computational errors for a completed project.


I am running BOINC Manager 6.12.34, wxWidgets 2.8.10
I run on Windows 2000 (VMWare) and Window 7 (64 bit). All exhibit the same problems. DSL connection is on 24/7.
Other BOINC projects (Orbit/World Community) seem to be working fine.

Examples of Event Logs. Note that the time is US Mountain Time (Denver)...


Machine 1 (W2K):

9/21/2011 8:17:47 AM | SETI@home | Started download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll
9/21/2011 8:17:47 AM | SETI@home | Started download of cudart_23_win32.dll
9/21/2011 8:18:31 AM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll: connect() failed
9/21/2011 8:18:31 AM | SETI@home | Backing off 2 hr 34 min 10 sec on download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll
9/21/2011 8:18:31 AM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of cudart_23_win32.dll: connect() failed
9/21/2011 8:18:31 AM | SETI@home | Backing off 25 min 20 sec on download of cudart_23_win32.dll
9/21/2011 8:18:34 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
9/21/2011 8:18:35 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

This is from another machine (W7 64 bit):
9/21/2011 8:26:26 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/21/2011 8:26:26 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/21/2011 8:26:31 AM | SETI@home | Started upload of 24jl11ae.6796.4157.14.10.10_0_0
9/21/2011 8:26:50 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
9/21/2011 8:26:54 AM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed upload of 24jl11ae.6796.4157.14.10.10_0_0: connect() failed
9/21/2011 8:26:54 AM | SETI@home | Backing off 37 min 50 sec on upload of 24jl11ae.6796.4157.14.10.10_0_0
9/21/2011 8:26:57 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
9/21/2011 8:26:59 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
9/21/2011 8:31:00 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/21/2011 8:31:00 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/21/2011 8:31:22 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
9/21/2011 8:31:26 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
9/21/2011 8:40:19 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
9/21/2011 8:40:23 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
9/21/2011 8:40:25 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
9/21/2011 9:08:18 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/21/2011 9:08:18 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/21/2011 9:08:41 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
9/21/2011 9:08:45 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
9/21/2011 9:08:48 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.


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Message 1154837 - Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 9:09:34 UTC - in response to Message 1154526.
Last modified: 22 Sep 2011, 9:41:33 UTC

I'm concerned that with such errors that my committed processing time to the effected SETI projects may be wasted.

SETI == project
What you get from SETI project (singular, not plural) are tasks.
What you send back to SETI project's servers are results.


Especially when I have computational errors for a completed project.

And how you can get computational errors if you think your computer successfully completed SETI task?
If you are unable (for a moment) to download/upload to SETI servers - this in no way will cause the task to be shown as "computational error".

If it is/was really shown as computational error then your computer really crashed the task (nothing related to net problems)
(the SETI application/program which analyzes the task and computes the result crashed).

You for sure had seen different programs to crash from time to time (e.g. "Invalid instruction").
It can happen (occasionally) also during SETI computations (considering the computer is at heavy load)
if the CPU/GPU/RAM work unstable (e.g. overclock) or some software conflict (e.g. with drivers, antivirus) shows up.


News on net problems:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65562


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Message 1154863 - Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 12:02:27 UTC

This problem will clear up for a while then come back. I'm concerned that with such errors that my committed processing time to the effected SETI projects may be wasted. Especially when I have computational errors for a completed project.


I checked all six of your computers and I saw only one error, and a wingman errored out on that one also. So You are not trashing work units.
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Message 1154917 - Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 15:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 1154837.
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I regret not tasking a snapshot of the error. The task I was referring to showed 100% completion, yet I would get pop-up errors for C++ when restarting BOINC and when BOINC was started that task had a note stating a computational Error on the right-most column.

After about a week, the task went away on the list and so did the error.

What I was worried about is two things. Download/Upload errors and tasks with errors.

Download errors are just annoying, that is just the facts of life on the Internet. So are the Upload Errors. SETI seems to have more than my other projects, that is perhaps an indication of limited bandwidth or computing capacity to handle all the data flow, so it just has to keep on trying to get the data through.

The Computational Errors are more of a concern. I know SETI and other projects cannot vette all the code for problems, but it would be nice to have some sort of error handling (more than exists now?) to help capture and perhaps get around them.

BTW, I forgot about the other two machines. I'd better go check if they are really still running and upgrade BOINC if they are.
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Message 1155009 - Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 20:34:09 UTC - in response to Message 1154917.
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The task I was referring to showed 100% completion

Any crashed task will show 100% completion.
The % goes instantly from e.g. 1% to 100%
But if you look at Elapsed/Run time you may see e.g. 00:00:01 (= 1 sec)


BTW, I forgot about the other two machines.

"Computers belonging to Eric" and "active in past 30 days" are six ;)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8305513


The only Error on all six computers that is still shown on the web:
Error tasks for computer 6074488
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6074488&offset=0&show_names=1&state=5&appid=

It shows many "Restarted at 3.70 percent" (so it was very probably not computed to 100%) and:
"process got signal 11"
"No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting" (= computer was probably at heavy HDD load at the moment, nothing to worry about)
"SIGSEGV: segmentation violation"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2060749982

Another Linux machine also crashed it but Windows 7 machine successfully completed it (using optimized app):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=811083074

Nothing to worry about if this happens occasionally.


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