Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done.

As I know you well know because I have already explained it to you, the "debt ceiling" has nothing to do with how much debt is incurred by Congress, only whether that debt is paid.

As I know you well know because I have already explained it to you, the "debt ceiling" has nothing to do with how much debt is incurred by Congress, only whether that debt is paid.

Do you know how much interest comes out of the "must pays" of the national.... can't really call it a budget since we haven't had one since President Obama took office... ?

Do you feel that as long as we can make the interest payments, it's ok to let it ride and to increase it year by year?

Is that how you handle your personal budget? Take as much credit that is offered to you and as long as you can make the minimum payment, it's ok?

Your attempt to change the subject is noted, with amusement, Gary. Good try to move the conversation to a different far-right target, to distract from the fact that you lost this one.

:^D

Gary, the departments audit among others as do the GAO. If not all is spent the account is closed at the end of the fiscal year.

Our Work is done at the request of congressional committees or subcommittees or is mandated by public laws or committee reports. We also undertake research under the authority of the Comptroller General. We support congressional oversight by

auditing agency operations to determine whether federal funds are being spent efficiently and effectively;
investigating allegations of illegal and improper activities;
reporting on how well government programs and policies are meeting their objectives;
performing policy analyses and outlining options for congressional consideration; and
issuing legal decisions and opinions, such as bid protest rulings and reports on agency rules.

We advise Congress and the heads of executive agencies about ways to make government more efficient, effective, ethical, equitable and responsive.

Our work leads to laws and acts that improve government operations, saving the government and taxpayers billions of dollars.

Gary, quite true but if one values their career path, being a more effective procurement officer is a good move. There is such a thing as being a competent professional.

Your attempt to change the subject is noted, with amusement, Gary. Good try to move the conversation to a different far-right target, to distract from the fact that you lost this one.

:^D

Have you read an appropriations bill?
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr1105enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr1105enr.pdf
Where does it order anything spent?

It says government employees of department X may spend up to $ as they see fit.

Here is the tricky part. Who audits? What happens if they spend too much? What happens if they don't spend it all?

Your attempt to change the subject is noted, with amusement, Gary. Good try to move the conversation to a different far-right target, to distract from the fact that you lost this one.

:^D

Have you read an appropriations bill?
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr1105enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr1105enr.pdf
Where does it order anything spent?

It says government employees of department X may spend up to $ as they see fit.

Here is the tricky part. Who audits? What happens if they spend too much? What happens if they don't spend it all?

I have know idea if this is still true today. But when I was in the Air Force at the end of the fiscal year all sorts of stupid projects would be done to use up that years budget money. Seems that they would loose that amount of money in the next years budget.
So lets punish an organization by being frugal by decreasing the budget they get next year. Maybe in daft but any money saved should be carried over at the same budget for next year. And if somehow you get a full budget in left over money then you just get a 10% adjustment for 1 year.

So Im not daft then? Maybe taxes would not go up every damn year id they did away with that policy.
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In my time with "offical budgets" it was trying to spend the allocated +10% so that you could justify an increase next year.