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Message 1148823 - Posted: 4 Sep 2011, 7:36:39 UTC - in response to Message 1148807.  

Fair enough most of them are Democratic Voters -- and most of the states seriously dumping jobs are Red States. Are they going to blame Obama for the actions of the Norquistican Tea Party? I think not. Of course, it is possible that the Norquistican Tea Party will enact legislation to disenfranchise them. After all, voting is so Democratic.



And The 60K people who lost jobs? Most of them are Democratic Voters(Public Sector Much). It's ZERO To Them and No No No To The Jobs Jobs Jobs Prez in 11/2012.



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Message 1149029 - Posted: 4 Sep 2011, 23:26:15 UTC - in response to Message 1148847.  

Excellent simplification -- you should run for President under the Norquistican Tea Party label.


We need a machine that does the work of ten men but needs twelve men to run it


We have one already, it's called the Government & the Civil Service!


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Message 1149230 - Posted: 5 Sep 2011, 17:13:45 UTC - in response to Message 1149213.  

Of course, as long as you attach 'Tea Party' to the ticket, folks will know they can safely vote for you, calm in the assurance of #2 gasoline, and jobs, and goods available from Walmart at prices below what are currently being charged and no goods imported from Asia, along with the assurance that everyone will make over $250K a year with no taxes, and all the health care you deserve, and none of those 'rainbow folks' being allowed in the country.

Can I campaign under the "Sainsburys Red Label Tea Party" ticket?


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Message 1149231 - Posted: 5 Sep 2011, 17:14:32 UTC - in response to Message 1149213.  

Can I campaign under the "Sainsburys Red Label Tea Party" ticket?


Yup, sure can and I'm a fully fledged & paid-up member 'cos I bought some today.
You save £1.20 if you buy these tea bags in 480 quantity sacks rather than buying them in the 160 quantity box's.
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Message 1152408 - Posted: 15 Sep 2011, 8:53:03 UTC

The Messiahs' Speech to Congress was Especially Strident.

Like a Child at it's Dead Parents Grave begging for money for an ice cream cone.

Duke getting Bashed from Every Quadrant.

Low Poll numbers; Solyndra Fiasco; GOP winning Special Elections; Ghadaffi not found; Embassies being shot at; Whackos attacking Bases; Oh boy, The List keeps growing and The Speeches Keep Failing.

Like The Shrub is Still in Office. Only Better.

At least there is Still Basketball and Cig Breaks, eh Duke?

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Message 1153054 - Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 6:36:02 UTC - in response to Message 1152408.  

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Message 1153068 - Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 7:15:48 UTC - in response to Message 1152408.  

More like the listeners keep failing.

Such as those cheering on the prospective death of a 30 year old at the Norquistican Tea Party 'debate'.


The Speeches Keep Failing.



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Message 1153143 - Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 11:34:50 UTC

More like the listeners keep failing.

. Click it! :)

Change is Coming To America!(Said 1000s of Times in The Duke's Election Speeches and Believed by His Zombies).

Yes, Change is Coming, but not Due to the Duke aka The Messiah aka The Change Agent.

Yes We Can!(Said 1000s of Times in The Duke's Election Speeches and Believed by His Zombies).

Meaning: Yes You Can! Since The Duke Taint Doing a Thang. You Must Change!

You See, The Duke Says Everyone Else is to Blame. You know, You, The Listeners.

So, Click :) on One of His Speeches and Learn. Learn how, You Can Change. You Can Do it. You, America, You!

The Duke, Certainly a Future Inductee into The Change Agent Hall of Fame.

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Message 1153144 - Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 11:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 1153143.  

not to worry. We will flush congress next election, and take out the trash.
Of course there will be new trash..

But maybe they can get something done.
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Message 1153151 - Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 12:11:35 UTC

We will flush congress next election, and take out the trash.

But maybe they can get something done.

House of Reps Controlled by Dems from Jan. '07-'11.

House of Reps; Senate; Presidency Controlled by Dems from Jan. '09 to Jan. '11.

Certainly the New Trash(Assume you mean Dems) will get things done using The Example of The Dems In Control mentioned above.

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Message 1153171 - Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 13:17:32 UTC - in response to Message 1153151.  

you should not ass/u/me.
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Message 1153270 - Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 18:15:12 UTC - in response to Message 1153151.  

Sometimes I forget the tendency toward Tea Party trollishness in your posts.

Control of the Senate requires 60 votes due to Senate rules that are in place (I suspect you might be conveniently forgetting that). Further, unlike the Norquistican Tea Party (the Republican party vaporized in 2009 and was replaced by the very small tent Norquistican Tea Party), the Democrats in Congress are not goose stepped controlled. Thus even when the Democrats had 60 seats in the Senate, that 60 seats included a number of 'Republican' Democrats.

These days to a large degree, you have label issues. The Democratic Party is more like the Republican party of about 20 to 30 years ago, and the Republican Party is more like the No-Nothing party of 170 years ago.

Presuming a modicum of intellect your part, I suspect you realize that. But no matter, for those inclined to accept a divergence of opinion, rather imposition of opinion, that is fine.



Certainly the New Trash(Assume you mean Dems) will get things done using The Example of The Dems In Control mentioned above.

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Message 1153998 - Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 21:39:26 UTC

Who the heck is The Prez Speaking to with these Speeches?

The Lowest Common Denominator of Listeners for sure.

Poor Prez is Stumbling over His Words during The Speech. Stumbling is Desperation. Strident and Stumbling. Yepper.

This Country Used to be run by People who Inspired Everyone to become Rich. Now The Prez and Democrats Inspire People to find a job so they can pay their Fair Share of Taxes.

Inspire to Tax. Yepper.

Get a Job. Be Taxed. Be Happy 'cause the Rich are being taxed at the Same Rate.
Yep, makes The People Strive.

Rags to Riches.

Rags to Ditches.

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Message 1154015 - Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 23:15:06 UTC - in response to Message 1153998.  
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Yup -- good commentary..


Who the heck do the Norquistican Tea Party candidatess peak to with these Speeches?

The Lowest Common Denominator of Listeners for sure.

Poor candidates are is Stumbling over thier words during their rants. Stumbling is Desperation. Strident and Stumbling. Yepper.

This Country Used to be run by People who Inspired Everyone to greatness. Now the Norquistican Tea Party inspires Rich People to stay rich, and the heck with the rest.

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Message 1154054 - Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 3:43:12 UTC

and the heck with the rest.

What, once you've Dug The Ditch, you can't climb out without The Rich Man giving you a Hand Out and Up?

John Steinbeck, if Alive oughta Write a Book about cha. Let's see-call it Sour Grapes, or Of Mice Like Men, or In Dubious Speechifying, or...Tortilla Without Filling, or...

Call it The Great Dust Bowl of The Early 21st Century, 'cept it won't be about Strong, Resolute and Proud Peoples doing it The Hard Way, it'll be about Weak Whiners Voting for The Hand Out Kings and Queens of A Diminished Nation.

Someone make me a cuppa Tea. Yea, you Rich Man. Snap to it!

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Message 1154114 - Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 5:52:31 UTC - in response to Message 1154054.  
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Exactly -- well put indeed.

A very large piece of the ditch was dug by the 2001 tax cuts (which messed up a budget surplus), then two unfinanced wars did most of the rest. Guns and butter wars are the stuff of budget deficits -- ask Bush or Johnson.



What, once you've had the rich man Dig The Ditch, you can't climb out without having the Poor Man giving you a Hand Out and Up?


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Message 1154152 - Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 10:17:31 UTC - in response to Message 1153998.  
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The rich are being taxed at the same rate. The rich are denied most of the standard tax deductions on Schedule A.

What you mean is that capital gains in the US are taxed at 15% while income is taxed at 35%--but only for the upper middle class. Most lower income people do not have capital gains--nor do hardly any of them pay taxes. You are talking effective tax rates. Middle incommers pay a very low effective rate since they can use most of the many deductions on Schedule A-form 1040.

Fact is the top 1% of earners pay 40% of all taxes. Doesnt matter what the RATE is; it's the total take that counts. 15% of 2 million is $300,000. 30% of 80,000 is $24,000.

Raise the taxes on the rich and you will find them offshore as well. They won't be US citizens for long. Just as you now find our factories offshore or replaced by a Chinese factory you will find a flight not only of manufacturing might but of intellectual capital as well.

When Britain had a 45% rate there was a mass exodus of intellectual capital overseas--a true brain drain.

More than half of all earners pay no tax whatever regardless of the RATE --they have sufficient deductions to zero out.

Anyone who thinks that the rich aren't doing their fair share are simply dishonest or abominably stupid or both.

Another good rant by Daddio!!
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Message 1154211 - Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 20:50:12 UTC - in response to Message 1154152.  

Yup.


Anyone who thinks that the rich are doing their fair share are simply dishonest or abominably stupid or both.

Another good rant by Daddio!!


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Message 1154220 - Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 21:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 1154211.  

Yup.


Anyone who thinks that the rich are doing their fair share are simply dishonest or abominably stupid or both.

Another good rant by Daddio!!


http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-rich-taxed-less-secretaries-070642868.html
FACT CHECK: Are rich taxed less than secretaries?
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER - Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says he wants to make sure millionaires are taxed at higher rates than their secretaries. The data say they already are.

"Warren Buffett's secretary shouldn't pay a higher tax rate than Warren Buffett. There is no justification for it," Obama said as he announced his deficit-reduction plan this week. "It is wrong that in the United States of America, a teacher or a nurse or a construction worker who earns $50,000 should pay higher tax rates than somebody pulling in $50 million."

On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.


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Message 1154255 - Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 22:20:25 UTC - in response to Message 1154229.  

'50%' so all the smart folks are on the Cayman Islands then?.

A few things to note, making over $1M a year on capital gains doesn't mean one is 'the smart folks' -- only the VERY rich folks.

Having only 50% of over $1M to live on is probably not a hardship.

Moving a capital gains tax for those getting $1M a year of income 'way' up to the 35% bracket (a tad less than 50% -- I figure that out, I must be one of the smart folks) is NOT going to be a hardship -- and frankly in the developed world is not all that high.

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