CO2 Detector SCAM....

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hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,645,231 RAC: 29,268	Message 1130397 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 14:57:05 UTC
	Watching all the commercials for CO2 detectors are driving me crazy and scaring people for absolutely no reason. My brother and I went on a service call yesterday to a really nice old lady. She has Electric utilities and swears she NEVER BBQ's in the house yet wanted us to install 5 CO2 detectors that Home Depot sold here. We told her to take them back and get her money back as they would do nothing at all in her house except beep when the battery gets old. Why is it not mentioned in any of the Scare Commercials that they are only needed if you have gas or some other source of CO2???They will sell Millions of these things to people that have absolutely no need of them out of Fear and Ignorance. WoW, so the biggest source some claim is breathing????? Give me a break, unless you live in a sealed aquarium...then this... "Other nonliving sources of the gas may include space heaters, clothes dryers, stoves, or any other unvented gas-burning appliance. The gas may also infiltrate the home from an outdoor source, in which case the cause is most likely to be a large industrial area or any processes which involve the burning of fossil fuels." This is really a scare tactic to sell a bunch of useless detectors, maybe the Government should do something that will actually help someone... Mythbusters already busted the myth of someone farting to much.... ____________ Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332	Message 1130414 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 15:41:54 UTC - in response to Message 1130397. Last modified: 21 Jul 2011, 15:42:30 UTC
	Watching all the commercials for CO2 detectors are driving me crazy and scaring people for absolutely no reason. My brother and I went on a service call yesterday to a really nice old lady. She has Electric utilities and swears she NEVER BBQ's in the house yet wanted us to install 5 CO2 detectors that Home Depot sold here. We told her to take them back and get her money back as they would do nothing at all in her house except beep when the battery gets old. Why is it not mentioned in any of the Scare Commercials that they are only needed if you have gas or some other source of CO2???They will sell Millions of these things to people that have absolutely no need of them out of Fear and Ignorance. WoW, so the biggest source some claim is breathing????? Give me a break, unless you live in a sealed aquarium...then this... "Other nonliving sources of the gas may include space heaters, clothes dryers, stoves, or any other unvented gas-burning appliance. The gas may also infiltrate the home from an outdoor source, in which case the cause is most likely to be a large industrial area or any processes which involve the burning of fossil fuels." This is really a scare tactic to sell a bunch of useless detectors, maybe the Government should do something that will actually help someone... Mythbusters already busted the myth of someone farting to much.... And they passed a law in California requiring them in every house. Expletive nanny state. ____________
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William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 2126 Credit: 1,088,132 RAC: 145	Message 1130450 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 16:36:10 UTC - in response to Message 1130414.
	I presume you are talking about CO detectors--ie carbon mon-oxide. This gas is deadly as oposed to CO-2 carbon dioxide which is harmless in the concentrations that we are likely to experience. If you have an attached garage they might be a good idea. Also if you have gas or oil heat or hotwater they couldn't hurt either. You can buy the kind that plugs in so the battery only works when the power is out. CO wants to be CO-2 hence it steals the other Oxygen from the Hemoglobin in your blood which suffocates you fairly quickly.
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8944 Credit: 36,786,292 RAC: 60,800	Message 1130542 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 20:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 1130450.
	Carbon Monoxide poisoning is a rare even usually relegated to northern states or where old and/or defective Furnaces are used. I've been in the Medical field for 20+ years and have only seen it 2 times. ONce in the ER at Parkland Hospital in Dallas and once up north. Both were caused by improperly maintained furnaces. Perhaps we'd be better off if they required your furnace to be checked each year as opposed to wasting money on CO detectors. ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22809 Credit: 4,526,693 RAC: 5,566	Message 1130679 - Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 21:26:34 UTC
	Perhaps we'd be better off if they required your furnace to be checked each year as opposed to wasting money on CO detectors. In the UK, all rented premises are required by law, to have their gas appliances, fires, boilers, water heaters, checked annually by a qualified and registered engineer on the Gas Safe Register, previously CORGI. This does not apply to private owner occupied premises, as it would be impossible to enforce.
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Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 987 Credit: 394,535 RAC: 235	Message 1131433 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 19:06:12 UTC
	I have been house hunting in arizona and most of the houses I looked at had low batteries in ether the CO detecter or the fire alarm. The house I am getting also has both detectors and at least one of them has low batteries and I can only hope they run down before I move in. I don't want to make replacing the batteries my first priority when moving as they are over 9 feet up and I will need to get a ladder to service them. It is a little strange to me because the house is all electric and has no gas connected to it. I have a CO detector now had it has picked up auto exhaust but it has never reached dangerous levels. If you pay attention to it, one or two properly placed detectors would do the job and 5 would be overkill. ____________
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William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 2126 Credit: 1,088,132 RAC: 145	Message 1131498 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 20:58:17 UTC - in response to Message 1130542. Last modified: 24 Jul 2011, 21:04:37 UTC
	Every winter you will read of people dying of improperly vented kerosine heaters, and by using charcoal to stay warm indoors. You could also have a senior citizen who forgot to turn his car off when he put it in the garage. I did lose two high-school classmates to CO-2. Even though it was a suicide I am sensitive to keeping an "eye" out and am careful to check my furnace, fireplace and hot water heater vents for obstructions and have found bird nests occasionally blocking them partially. Now make sure I have a mesh over these outlets.
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William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 2126 Credit: 1,088,132 RAC: 145	Message 1131504 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 21:04:11 UTC - in response to Message 1131433. Last modified: 24 Jul 2011, 21:07:07 UTC
	Those are probably smoke detectors and are also a good idea. Fires could start anywhere especially in the kitchen and garage area. I change my batteries once a year and have to use a short ladder which I schlep around the house. They go off when I burn something in the kitchen in the frying pan. My wife almost burned our porch down once using the grill to roast a chicken which ignited the grease dripping off and was fueled by the grease catch pan also being fairly full. The grill is now off the porch and down on a concrete deck. Detectors won't hurt you financially and could save your bacon as well as your belongings.
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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22809 Credit: 4,526,693 RAC: 5,566	Message 1131645 - Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 10:52:43 UTC
	All detectors whether CO2, natural gas, smoke or whatever, have a test button. I test all mine once a week. ____________ Damsel Rescuer, Kitty Patron, Raccoon Friend, Uli Fan, Julie Supporter, ES99 Admirer, PETA Member, 1st Childhood
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hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,645,231 RAC: 29,268	Message 1132187 - Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 13:22:30 UTC
	The point being...We don't need a law to require Carbon Monoxide detectors unless you live in a house that has a high probability or at least some kind of source. The commercials are scare tactics like the US always uses and just like the boy that cried Wolf, the tactics will eventually quit working...You can only scare the Sheeple so long before they become complacent. ____________ Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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