CO2 Detector SCAM....


log in

Advanced search

Message boards : Politics : CO2 Detector SCAM....

Author Message
Profile hiamps
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 23 May 99
Posts: 4292
Credit: 72,971,319
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1130397 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 14:57:05 UTC

Watching all the commercials for CO2 detectors are driving me crazy and scaring people for absolutely no reason. My brother and I went on a service call yesterday to a really nice old lady. She has Electric utilities and swears she NEVER BBQ's in the house yet wanted us to install 5 CO2 detectors that Home Depot sold here. We told her to take them back and get her money back as they would do nothing at all in her house except beep when the battery gets old. Why is it not mentioned in any of the Scare Commercials that they are only needed if you have gas or some other source of CO2???They will sell Millions of these things to people that have absolutely no need of them out of Fear and Ignorance. WoW, so the biggest source some claim is breathing????? Give me a break, unless you live in a sealed aquarium...then this...
"Other nonliving sources of the gas may include space heaters, clothes dryers, stoves, or any other unvented gas-burning appliance. The gas may also infiltrate the home from an outdoor source, in which case the cause is most likely to be a large industrial area or any processes which involve the burning of fossil fuels."
This is really a scare tactic to sell a bunch of useless detectors, maybe the Government should do something that will actually help someone...
Mythbusters already busted the myth of someone farting to much....
____________
Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!

Profile Gary CharpentierProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 12351
Credit: 6,662,725
RAC: 8,742
United States
Message 1130414 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 15:41:54 UTC - in response to Message 1130397.
Last modified: 21 Jul 2011, 15:42:30 UTC

Watching all the commercials for CO2 detectors are driving me crazy and scaring people for absolutely no reason. My brother and I went on a service call yesterday to a really nice old lady. She has Electric utilities and swears she NEVER BBQ's in the house yet wanted us to install 5 CO2 detectors that Home Depot sold here. We told her to take them back and get her money back as they would do nothing at all in her house except beep when the battery gets old. Why is it not mentioned in any of the Scare Commercials that they are only needed if you have gas or some other source of CO2???They will sell Millions of these things to people that have absolutely no need of them out of Fear and Ignorance. WoW, so the biggest source some claim is breathing????? Give me a break, unless you live in a sealed aquarium...then this...
"Other nonliving sources of the gas may include space heaters, clothes dryers, stoves, or any other unvented gas-burning appliance. The gas may also infiltrate the home from an outdoor source, in which case the cause is most likely to be a large industrial area or any processes which involve the burning of fossil fuels."
This is really a scare tactic to sell a bunch of useless detectors, maybe the Government should do something that will actually help someone...
Mythbusters already busted the myth of someone farting to much....

And they passed a law in California requiring them in every house.

Expletive nanny state.
____________

Profile William Rothamel
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 25 Oct 06
Posts: 2508
Credit: 1,175,272
RAC: 118
United States
Message 1130450 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 16:36:10 UTC - in response to Message 1130414.

I presume you are talking about CO detectors--ie carbon mon-oxide. This gas is deadly as oposed to CO-2 carbon dioxide which is harmless in the concentrations that we are likely to experience.

If you have an attached garage they might be a good idea. Also if you have gas or oil heat or hotwater they couldn't hurt either. You can buy the kind that plugs in so the battery only works when the power is out.

CO wants to be CO-2 hence it steals the other Oxygen from the Hemoglobin in your blood which suffocates you fairly quickly.

Profile ignorance is no excuse
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 4 Oct 00
Posts: 9529
Credit: 44,433,274
RAC: 0
Korea, North
Message 1130542 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 20:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 1130450.

Carbon Monoxide poisoning is a rare even usually relegated to northern states or where old and/or defective Furnaces are used. I've been in the Medical field for 20+ years and have only seen it 2 times. ONce in the ER at Parkland Hospital in Dallas and once up north. Both were caused by improperly maintained furnaces.

Perhaps we'd be better off if they required your furnace to be checked each year as opposed to wasting money on CO detectors.
____________
In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

End terrorism by building a school

Profile Chris SProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 31375
Credit: 12,030,994
RAC: 29,239
United Kingdom
Message 1130679 - Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 21:26:34 UTC

Perhaps we'd be better off if they required your furnace to be checked each year as opposed to wasting money on CO detectors.


In the UK, all rented premises are required by law, to have their gas appliances, fires, boilers, water heaters, checked annually by a qualified and registered engineer on the Gas Safe Register, previously CORGI.

This does not apply to private owner occupied premises, as it would be impossible to enforce.

msattlerProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 Jul 00
Posts: 38828
Credit: 576,053,608
RAC: 537,881
United States
Message 1130686 - Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 21:34:43 UTC

I believe CO detectors, like smoke detectors, are a very smart albeit small investment.
CO can come from many sources, some of which are not commonly considered, such leaving a car running in a garage.

I happen to have a very old oil burning furnace, and although I maintain it every year, I have a CO detector 'just in case' due to it's old age.

Can't be too safe for the kitties.
____________
*********************************************
Embrace your inner kitty...ya know ya wanna!

I have met a few friends in my life.
Most were cats.

Dena Wiltsie
Send message
Joined: 19 Apr 01
Posts: 1093
Credit: 539,789
RAC: 336
United States
Message 1131433 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 19:06:12 UTC

I have been house hunting in arizona and most of the houses I looked at had low batteries in ether the CO detecter or the fire alarm. The house I am getting also has both detectors and at least one of them has low batteries and I can only hope they run down before I move in. I don't want to make replacing the batteries my first priority when moving as they are over 9 feet up and I will need to get a ladder to service them. It is a little strange to me because the house is all electric and has no gas connected to it. I have a CO detector now had it has picked up auto exhaust but it has never reached dangerous levels.
If you pay attention to it, one or two properly placed detectors would do the job and 5 would be overkill.
____________

Profile William Rothamel
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 25 Oct 06
Posts: 2508
Credit: 1,175,272
RAC: 118
United States
Message 1131498 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 20:58:17 UTC - in response to Message 1130542.
Last modified: 24 Jul 2011, 21:04:37 UTC

Every winter you will read of people dying of improperly vented kerosine heaters, and by using charcoal to stay warm indoors. You could also have a senior citizen who forgot to turn his car off when he put it in the garage.

I did lose two high-school classmates to CO-2. Even though it was a suicide I am sensitive to keeping an "eye" out and am careful to check my furnace, fireplace and hot water heater vents for obstructions and have found bird nests occasionally blocking them partially. Now make sure I have a mesh over these outlets.

Profile William Rothamel
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 25 Oct 06
Posts: 2508
Credit: 1,175,272
RAC: 118
United States
Message 1131504 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 21:04:11 UTC - in response to Message 1131433.
Last modified: 24 Jul 2011, 21:07:07 UTC

Those are probably smoke detectors and are also a good idea. Fires could start anywhere especially in the kitchen and garage area. I change my batteries once a year and have to use a short ladder which I schlep around the house. They go off when I burn something in the kitchen in the frying pan. My wife almost burned our porch down once using the grill to roast a chicken which ignited the grease dripping off and was fueled by the grease catch pan also being fairly full.

The grill is now off the porch and down on a concrete deck. Detectors won't hurt you financially and could save your bacon as well as your belongings.

Profile Chris SProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 31375
Credit: 12,030,994
RAC: 29,239
United Kingdom
Message 1131645 - Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 10:52:43 UTC

All detectors whether CO2, natural gas, smoke or whatever, have a test button. I test all mine once a week.
____________
Damsel Rescuer, Kitty Patron, Uli Devotee, Julie Supporter
ES99 Admirer, Raccoon Friend, Anniet fan, RJ45 rulz OK!


Profile hiamps
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 23 May 99
Posts: 4292
Credit: 72,971,319
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1132187 - Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 13:22:30 UTC

The point being...We don't need a law to require Carbon Monoxide detectors unless you live in a house that has a high probability or at least some kind of source. The commercials are scare tactics like the US always uses and just like the boy that cried Wolf, the tactics will eventually quit working...You can only scare the Sheeple so long before they become complacent.
____________
Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!

Message boards : Politics : CO2 Detector SCAM....

Copyright © 2014 University of California