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Message 1124842 - Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 11:55:41 UTC

Hi there, just started crunching numbers again after a good 3-4 year absence. Install went fine, but i couldnt get work once everything was said and done.

I checked the forums and news and i realized there were many problems with the servers. So i decided to wait a few days before posting anything. After about 3 days i still have not gotten 1 task. So i checked the server status and the i/o usage and it seems everything looks fine.

I copied my event log so you may see why it may happen.

7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 6.12.26 for windows_x86_64
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.5
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Running under account DABEASTV4
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ [Family 15 Model 67 Stepping 3]
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Processor: 1.00 MB cache
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Memory: 8.00 GB physical, 16.00 GB virtual
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Disk: 297.99 GB total, 230.82 GB free
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Local time is UTC -4 hours
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5x00 series (Redwood) (CAL version 1.4.1417, 1024MB, 520 GFLOPS peak)
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 6076224; resource share 100
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | Spinhenge@home | URL http://spin.fh-bielefeld.de/; Computer ID 214204; resource share 100
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | General prefs: from http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/ (last modified 22-Oct-2005 12:36:50)
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Host location: none
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | General prefs: using your defaults
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Preferences:
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | max memory usage when active: 4095.25MB
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 7371.44MB
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | don't use GPU while active
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
7/5/2011 7:42:36 AM | | Not using a proxy
7/5/2011 7:42:42 AM | Spinhenge@home | Restarting task 02_core_shell_nanoparticle_480511_0 using metropolis version 312
7/5/2011 7:42:42 AM | Spinhenge@home | Restarting task 02_core_shell_nanoparticle_481659_0 using metropolis version 312
7/5/2011 7:42:42 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
7/5/2011 7:42:42 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
7/5/2011 7:43:03 AM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
7/5/2011 7:43:06 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
7/5/2011 7:43:09 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
7/5/2011 7:43:10 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
7/5/2011 7:43:23 AM | | Resuming computation
7/5/2011 7:44:57 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
7/5/2011 7:44:57 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
7/5/2011 7:45:20 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
7/5/2011 7:45:33 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
7/5/2011 7:45:34 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
7/5/2011 7:45:57 AM | Spinhenge@home | Resetting project
7/5/2011 7:45:57 AM | Spinhenge@home | Detaching from project
7/5/2011 7:49:19 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
7/5/2011 7:49:19 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
7/5/2011 7:49:41 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
7/5/2011 7:49:55 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
7/5/2011 7:49:56 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.



again, checked the server status and it looks like other people are receiving work and sending results.

Any help is appreciated.
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Message 1124844 - Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 12:08:49 UTC - in response to Message 1124842.

One thing I notice right away is that BOINC is asking for work for your ATi GPU. SETI@Home does not have a default application for ATi GPUs, so at this time work will never be sent for your hardware. However, I believe it normally reads "No work for selected application" or something to that effect. The "No work available, project servers may be down" is usually indicative of difficulties in reaching the project's servers.

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Message 1124846 - Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 12:16:45 UTC - in response to Message 1124844.

Alright, well how do i set it so that BOINC requests work for my regular cpu? These new features for GPU is new to me. Not sure how to configure it to being off. Is there ports that i can forward to ensure my firewall/router can connect to them correctly?
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Message 1124873 - Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 14:25:44 UTC - in response to Message 1124846.

Alright, well how do i set it so that BOINC requests work for my regular cpu?

You can't. The fact that BOINC only requests tasks for the GPU shows that you have (according to BOINC:-) enough CPU tasks from Spinhenge.

These new features for GPU is new to me. Not sure how to configure it to being off.

That depends. If you don't want to use your GPU for crunching at all, you can disable it by creating a Core Client Configuration file (cc_config.xml) with the <no_gpus> option in it or by using the --no_gpus command-line option when starting the client.

If you want to use the GPU only for some projects, you'll have to ignore the messages until the <exclude_gpu> option becomes available with BOINC 6.13.

Is there ports that i can forward to ensure my firewall/router can connect to them correctly?

You could try to set up an Internet proxy (see the ~ Temporary Fix for HE connection problems ~ and related threads).

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Message 1124966 - Posted: 6 Jul 2011, 3:52:49 UTC - in response to Message 1124846.

Alright, well how do i set it so that BOINC requests work for my regular cpu? These new features for GPU is new to me. Not sure how to configure it to being off. Is there ports that i can forward to ensure my firewall/router can connect to them correctly?


BOINC will automatically request work for the CPU when it needs to. If it's not asking for work, it doesn't need any.

You can turn off using the GPU through your SETI@Home Preferences, but note this only turns it off for SETI@Home. You'd have to do the same at every project you belong to. Honestly I'm not sure it's worth the effort since it's not an error message you're receiving, so everything is actually working as expected.


I don't think you need to open ports on your firewall or router since, again, those are informative messages and not error messages. BOINC works just like web browsers do in that it initiates the communication from inside your network, and most SPI firewalls will detect this as valid communications to the internet and allow return comms back from the servers.

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Message 1124994 - Posted: 6 Jul 2011, 6:39:54 UTC - in response to Message 1124966.

You can turn off using the GPU through your SETI@Home Preferences, but note this only turns it off for SETI@Home.

And at SETI@home, you can only turn off nVidia (CUDA) GPUs. ;-)

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Message 1125062 - Posted: 6 Jul 2011, 11:37:15 UTC - in response to Message 1124994.

You can turn off using the GPU through your SETI@Home Preferences, but note this only turns it off for SETI@Home.

And at SETI@home, you can only turn off nVidia (CUDA) GPUs. ;-)

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It says nVidia, but it works for ATi too. ;-)

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Message 1125094 - Posted: 6 Jul 2011, 13:32:20 UTC - in response to Message 1125062.

No, it doesn't. That option will work for Nvidia GPUs only.

That the ATI GPU option isn't showing there is because Seti does not have any ATI applications of their own. As soon as they do, the "Use ATI GPU" option will come into play.
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Message 1125096 - Posted: 6 Jul 2011, 13:38:40 UTC - in response to Message 1125094.

No, it doesn't. That option will work for Nvidia GPUs only.

That the ATI GPU option isn't showing there is because Seti does not have any ATI applications of their own. As soon as they do, the "Use ATI GPU" option will come into play.


Yet when I turn off the nVidia option, I stop getting ATi tasks sent to my computer.

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Message 1125109 - Posted: 6 Jul 2011, 14:12:38 UTC - in response to Message 1125096.

There's two things why it won't work that way.

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if ($app_types->ati) { $project_pref_descs[] = new PREF_BOOL ( tra( "Use ATI GPU %1 Enforced by version 6.10+ %2", "<br><span class=note>", "</span>" ), "no_ati", false, true ); } if ($app_types->cuda) { $project_pref_descs[] = new PREF_BOOL ( tra( "Use NVIDIA GPU %1 Enforced by version 6.10+ %2", "<br><span class=note>", "</span>" ), "no_cuda", false, true );

I hope you can read PHP code, but that's how the 'detection' takes place. app_types being those shown in Seti apps. (Source prefs.inc).

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You're using the anonymous platform optimized applications. By using anonymous platform (app_info.xml) you tell BOINC which applications to use and what hoops to jump through. The project preferences will be ignored.

In the past, the "Use GPU" option did work for both ATI and Nvidia, yet then people started putting Nvidia and ATI GPUs into the same computer, and they wanted options to disable one but not the other, and as such from that time onwards, we had the "Use ATI GPU" and "Use Nvidia GPU" preferences. They work for their hardware counterpart only and then only when the BOINC backend has detected that there are applications of the sort available.
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Message 1125110 - Posted: 6 Jul 2011, 14:19:37 UTC - in response to Message 1125109.

I see. I was unaware of the change and I haven't disabled GPU computing in quite a while, probably before the change occured.




All this being said, it doesn't change the fact that there's no need to turn off work fetch for the ATi GPU if you're not using the Anonymous Platform and the project doesn't have an official app. They are informative messages and not indicative of an error that needs to be resolved.

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