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Message 1123182 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 1:05:36 UTC



? Quick temporary fix for those that can't connect but have completed tasks to Upload/Report

Use Proxy server:

I tried several with no success but this appears to be working
212.118.224.151 : 80 (Transparent, UK)

http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm





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The "problem" is that I have no problem ;)
My computers connect OK in "normal" way (without Proxy in Options)

So somebody with connection problems have to test this ...



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Message 1123192 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 1:44:15 UTC - in response to Message 1123182.

That worked for me but with a bit of a mixed result. I entered the server in your example and the 20 tasks that I have been trying to download for the past 3 days came through immediately after adding the proxy server. And then I got 20 more new jobs after that. But part way through downloading the 20 new jobs the connection seemed to die. So I tried the next server on the list in the link you provided and comms were restored. Only time will tell how long it will stay up. But at laeast for the first time in 3 days I am all caught up and have new work to chew on. Thank you! I tip my hat to you.
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Message 1123249 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 4:15:23 UTC
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This one works also:
217.196.235.18 : 80 (Anonymous, UK)

(I successfully reported 2 tasks, No noticeable Delay/Latency over direct connection)


I intentionally choose to try UK Proxy servers (and not USA Proxy servers)
- it seems to me that many complains about no connection came from different places/users/IP-addresses in USA.

You are free to try/choose Proxy servers in other Country, e.g. Netherlands:
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?country=NL


(I try to choose Transparent or Anonymous HTTP Proxy servers as I don't know if other types (as CoDeeN or Distorting) will work properly.
Somebody with more knowledge about Proxy types may correct me and explain what type is best in our case.
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Message 1123271 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 5:26:33 UTC


If you get:
01/07/2011 08:10:38 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server

... press [Update] again - some Proxy servers don't respond every time.


Using 217.196.235.18:80 I just received this:

01/07/2011 08:10:14 SETI@home update requested by user
01/07/2011 08:10:15 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01/07/2011 08:10:15 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
01/07/2011 08:10:19 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/07/2011 08:10:19 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
01/07/2011 08:10:23 BOINC can't access Internet - check network connection or proxy configuration.

01/07/2011 08:10:32 SETI@home update requested by user
01/07/2011 08:10:34 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01/07/2011 08:10:34 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
01/07/2011 08:10:38 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server

01/07/2011 08:10:50 SETI@home update requested by user
01/07/2011 08:10:53 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01/07/2011 08:10:53 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
01/07/2011 08:10:57 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 8 new tasks
01/07/2011 08:10:59 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.143
01/07/2011 08:10:59 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.110
01/07/2011 08:11:05 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.143
01/07/2011 08:11:05 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.16293.2112.15.10.131
01/07/2011 08:11:06 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.110
01/07/2011 08:11:06 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.111
01/07/2011 08:11:09 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.111
01/07/2011 08:11:09 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.113
01/07/2011 08:11:11 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.16293.2112.15.10.131
01/07/2011 08:11:11 SETI@home Started download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.147
01/07/2011 08:11:13 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.113
01/07/2011 08:11:13 SETI@home Started download of 30mr11aa.5247.6202.6.10.111
01/07/2011 08:11:16 SETI@home Finished download of 26fe11ad.11829.21335.14.10.147
01/07/2011 08:11:16 SETI@home Started download of 30mr11aa.5247.6202.6.10.149
01/07/2011 08:11:20 SETI@home Finished download of 30mr11aa.5247.6202.6.10.111
01/07/2011 08:11:22 SETI@home Finished download of 30mr11aa.5247.6202.6.10.149


And I think that downloads go way faster than usual but it may be just because the line is not saturated:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d


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Message 1123278 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 5:37:00 UTC

For those in the USA the date would read 7/1/2011.
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Message 1123417 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 16:02:30 UTC - in response to Message 1123278.

People still having this trouble?

I thought it was resolved a couple of days ago...was for me here in louisiana.
Still get the occasional error, but mostly the "the project has no new tasks"
issue. But now 6 boxes I have running seem to be doing okay...

Good Luck all!

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Message 1123427 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 16:37:21 UTC

Some PROXY INFO.

http://www.publicproxyservers.com/
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Message 1123470 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 18:37:51 UTC - in response to Message 1123450.

I don't know about Jim, but I am. Connections have been solid since last night on proxy server 82.206.129.160 port 3128. I've tried to connect a couple of times without the proxy and no-joy. So I'll leave it on the proxy for now.
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Message 1123474 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 18:44:27 UTC - in response to Message 1123470.
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I don't know about Jim, but I am. Connections have been solid since last night on proxy server 82.206.129.160 port 3128. I've tried to connect a couple of times without the proxy and no-joy. So I'll leave it on the proxy for now.



And you know of course that it is a secure proxy? It's in fact an open anonymous proxy in the country of Chad in Africa. YOu are aware of course that the person running that proxy, can intercept your SETI traffic, and pick out your SETI password.

Are you also aware of that many open proxies are set up for only one purpose, and that is to sniff other peoples traffic for passwords and account info, and at worst install spyware on your computer?

To go public like this with the proxy solution, is amongst the most stupid thing I have seen allowed by the mods on this message board. It invites people with no security knowledge to attach at will to unsecure proxy servers in at best doubtful locations, and with doubtful purposes.
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Message 1123475 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 18:45:04 UTC - in response to Message 1123182.
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? Quick temporary fix for those that can't connect but have completed tasks to Upload/Report

Use Proxy server:

I tried several with no success but this appears to be working
212.118.224.151 : 80 (Transparent, UK)

http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm





P.S.
The "problem" is that I have no problem ;)
My computers connect OK in "normal" way (without Proxy in Options)

So somebody with connection problems have to test this ...





You are aware of course that the person running that proxy, can intercept your SETI traffic, and pick out your SETI password.

Are you also aware of that many open proxies are set up for only one purpose, and that is to sniff other peoples traffic for passwords and account info, and at worst install spyware on your computer?

To go public like this with the proxy solution, is amongst the most stupid thing I have seen allowed by the mods on this message board. It invites people with no security knowledge to attach at will to unsecure proxy servers in at best doubtful locations, and with doubtful purposes.
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Message 1123499 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 19:38:38 UTC - in response to Message 1123475.

You are aware of course that the person running that proxy, can intercept your SETI traffic, and pick out your SETI password.

No, the person can't pick out the password simply because it's not inside the sched_request_*.xml nor in the sched_reply_*.xml files, just some hashes.
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Message 1123504 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 19:44:42 UTC - in response to Message 1123484.

Uhhh...rather than spewing vitrol about it, you could have posted your concerns in a more constructive manner.

That being said,
I have never had to or tried to use a proxy server, so I certainly would have fallen into the category of the clueless on this one.

You are bringing up some very valid concerns, and I am glad you brought them to the discussion here.

I could ask, are you aware of a secure solution to the problem? Are there free, secure proxy servers available? Or would they have a fee involved?

I don't have the problem others are having, but I am concerned that they can do something to get around it until whatever the heck is wrong at HE can be identified and rectified.


Heh, if you think that's spewing vitriol, then you haven't heard me being really vitriolic :-)

And, no I don't know of any real safe and secure proxy server to use, that is free.

Anyhow, I raised the warning flag, and if this thread despite that stays, there's nothing more anyone can do about it. Anyone can now use the proxy solution easily, even if they really aren't aware of what they are doing.

Next time someone here isn't able to connect with their bank, to log in to their account, maybe they find it and decide to try the proxy solution even for that. Great idea, however it may lead to an empty bank account later on, but hey, they managed to connect to their account...

That was sarcasm Mark :-)

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Message 1123507 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 19:47:57 UTC - in response to Message 1123499.
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You are aware of course that the person running that proxy, can intercept your SETI traffic, and pick out your SETI password.

No, the person can't pick out the password simply because it's not inside the sched_request_*.xml nor in the sched_reply_*.xml files, just some hashes.


And the hashes withing the sched request is the password for that request. How else could the server know that it is you? Sniffing out the entire shed request means that you have what you need to wreak havoc on the account, if that is what someone wants.

EDIT: I've said what I need to say about this proxy issue. Now feel free to connect to proxy servers in Chad, or Nigeria. Places well known for Internet scams such as the famous Nigeria letters, and other forms of Internet scams.

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Message 1123520 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 20:20:57 UTC - in response to Message 1123484.
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Appears to be a typical problem for H.E. users, also according to this thread title.
My ISP has made some changes, too also got another MODEM/ROUTER, IPv6
ready and also working(ADSL 2+)(PPPoe) OK, no connection problems.

From my LT (WLAN):

29-6-2011 14:29:54 | | Starting BOINC client version 6.12.26 for windows_intelx86 29-6-2011 14:29:54 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 29-6-2011 14:29:54 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.5 29-6-2011 14:29:54 | | Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC 29-6-2011 14:29:54 | | Running under account Fred Verster 29-6-2011 14:29:54 | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz [Family 6 Model 14 Stepping 8] 29-6-2011 14:29:54 | | Processor: 2.00 MB cache 29-6-2011 14:29:54 | | Not using a proxy [SNIPPED]------------------------------------------------- 1-7-2011 19:54:49 | SETI@home | Computation for task 19no10ae.16618.5793.14.10.30_2 finished 1-7-2011 19:54:49 | SETI@home | Starting 26fe11ad.14468.4566.3.10.8.vlar_1 1-7-2011 19:54:49 | SETI@home | Starting task 26fe11ad.14468.4566.3.10.8.vlar_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603 1-7-2011 19:54:52 | SETI@home | Started upload of 19no10ae.16618.5793.14.10.30_2_0 1-7-2011 19:54:56 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 19no10ae.16618.5793.14.10.30_2_0 1-7-2011 20:28:14 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 1-7-2011 20:28:14 | SETI@home | Reporting 2 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU 1-7-2011 20:28:17 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks 1-7-2011 20:28:19 | SETI@home | Started download of 27fe11ai.5656.5384.9.10.147 1-7-2011 20:28:31 | SETI@home | Finished download of 27fe11ai.5656.5384.9.10.147 1-7-2011 20:52:39 | SETI@home | Computation for task 28ap11ah.14483.3748.3.10.244_1 finished 1-7-2011 20:52:39 | SETI@home | Starting 26fe11aa.9744.10127.3.10.83_1 1-7-2011 20:52:39 | SETI@home | Starting task 26fe11aa.9744.10127.3.10.83_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603 1-7-2011 20:52:41 | SETI@home | Started upload of 28ap11ah.14483.3748.3.10.244_1_0 1-7-2011 20:52:49 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 28ap11ah.14483.3748.3.10.244_1_0

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Message 1123881 - Posted: 2 Jul 2011, 13:18:21 UTC - in response to Message 1123474.
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The server:
82.206.129.160 : 3128
is really shown to reside in Chad, Africa !
(despite it is in the list for UK on http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm)


Better to use:
217.196.235.18 : 80
... shown to be in:
Weybridge in Surrey, United Kingdom
ISP: HighSpeed Office Limited
Organization: Epsom College


To check where the server (any IP) is - use these sites:

http://clientn.real-hide-ip.com/map/whatismyip.php
http://ipinfodb.com/
http://www.ip-secrets.com/

http://whatismyipaddress.com/
http://www.ip-adress.com/
http://geo.flagfox.net/


I think that it's very unlikely that any Proxy owner/admin (even in Chad)
will be interested to scan the (big) traffic to find SETI@home passwords/authenticators
simply because they do not earn money for him.

(And I never suggested to use unknown Proxies when connecting to a bank/payment site)


The traffic to/from SETI@home servers is not encrypted so if you are too paranoid
you can also be scared that your SETI@home passwords/authenticators
will be stolen somewhere in the long path (shown by TraceRt) between you and SETI@home lab.

Even if you use direct connection (no Proxy) any admin in that path can scan
the unencrypted traffic and see the authenticator, correct?

<scheduler_request>
<authenticator>1234567890abcdef25325235363</authenticator>
<hostid>4832843</hostid>
...


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Message 1124336 - Posted: 3 Jul 2011, 20:03:22 UTC


No feedback?

Do you still have problems connecting?
(If you can connect but with trouble/retries it's OK/normal when line to/from SETI servers is overloaded:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d
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If you can't connect for weeks - you can try the Proxy "way".

Do you have connection success using Proxy?
Which Proxy do you use?
(I still use 217.196.235.18 : 80 to test that it continues to work (and it works for me as I just now downloaded 3 tasks))

Which Proxy do you recommend for this purpose (BOINC/SETI) and which not?
Why?


Do you think Sten-Arne's concerns are valid or are they another Escherichia coli "syndrome"? ;)
(too much noise for a rare problem)


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Message 1124586 - Posted: 4 Jul 2011, 14:13:42 UTC
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Fortunately I don't need to use a proxy, but I would have concerns about using one not in what might be termed the "civilised world"...
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