Now the man says something "external" to his own thoughts is effecting his decision making. Many people all over the world claim they have had similar experiences.

Lots of people claim to have funny experiences. Every time there's an investigation, its found to be without merit.

Today, science can't verify or disprove if people like Curt are really having these experiences.

On the contrary, science can verify and disprove false claims. You just need to talk to a real doctor or scientist and not some crackpot.

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About 3 to 5 percent of the population can hear voices speak in their heads

we call those people schizophrenic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
The conclusion from that page is that the shrinks can't explain a shit.

They have statistics of genetic, drug and environmental type. But no explanation.
They have tons of theories, but can't even agree on such a simple thing as how to make the diagnose.

"A number of attempts have been made to explain the link between altered brain function and schizophrenia."

"As of 2009 there is no objective test."

"Schizophrenia affects around 0.3–0.7% of people at some point in their life, or 24 million people worldwide as of 2011."

Compare that to 3-4 percent hearing voices. Healthy and intelligent people are hearing voices.They have no diagnose of Schizophrenia.
So don't be fooled by ET's warfare and smoke screen to think about these people hearing voices as maniacs.

And if some of these voices can talk about and predict the future, then the alarm bells should be ringing at SETI.
No hallucination or technology on this planet can predict the future. It must be ET.
There are also some examples of precognition in the Bible.


And here is how ET is fighting his war against us, unleashing his remote controlled Zombies to declare any witnesses of ET as insane maniacs.
And by that the smoke screen is rised up to stop SETI from recognizing ET.

"The psychiatrist Kurt Schneider (1887–1967) listed the forms of psychotic symptoms that he thought distinguished schizophrenia from other psychotic disorders. These are called first-rank symptoms or Schneider's first-rank symptoms, and they include delusions of being controlled by an external force; the belief that thoughts are being inserted into or withdrawn from one's conscious mind; the belief that one's thoughts are being broadcast to other people; and hearing hallucinatory voices that comment on one's thoughts or actions or that have a conversation with other hallucinated voices."

That description will also fit to the Nobel Prize Winners intuition, "thoughts are being inserted into or withdrawn from one's conscious mind;"
Do you really think that Nobel Prize Winners are insane schizophrenic maniacs ?

"The book and film A Beautiful Mind chronicle the life of John Forbes Nash, a Nobel Prize-winning mathematician who was diagnosed with schizophrenia."

I assume his "schizophrenic hallucinated" brilliant ALIEN thinking was the reason for his Nobel Prize.
So what is schizophrenia ? (a smoke screen diagnose to hide ET)

Hey hello SETI wake up


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If you suddenly hear a voice speak in your head then you probably would be so scared that you will shit in your pants.
Like the descriptions in the Bible about people hearing God speak to them.
Or like the scientist Angelo
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/magazine/25voices.t.html?_r=1
The voices fooled him by telling him that he would die.
Think about it and understand what experience people have that ends up at the hospital with the diagnosis of schizophrenia.
It's easy for ET to make people look insane.

Do you now understand what I meant when I wrote that some ET's are launching a war against us.
And you have them in your head right now. Shit in your pants.

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Red alert for ET's remote controlled zombies writing negative or joking away the subject.
We are under attack, and you can't trust your brain. Can SETI break through that mental barricade ?

The technique that ET use to communicate:

ET use a technique that makes it possible to read and manipulate the electric signals in a human brain from a distance of lightyears away. If you can control the electric signals in a human brain, then you can also control every human sense, hearing, seeing, thinking, feelings, body movements.
Unlike radio wawes, the technique that ET use is unaffected by the distance, and the communication is without any time delay at distances of lightyears away. And the only clue we have today to the technique that ET use is called "quantum entanglement".
Think about the advantage of this technique and you will understand why ET have thrown those slow stone age radios att the dumpyard.
If the distance is one million light years and if they use stoneage radios to communicate then they have to wait a million years for the answer. With the new quantum technique there is no delay at all.

Some scientists say that it is not possible to use "quantum entaglement" for communication. But ET have prooved that it's possible.
Which means, tell those negative remote controlled Zombie parrots to go to h---. It's only a matter of finding the hole in the quantum theory and the smart trick. Some scientists are already working on finding the hole for superluminal communication.

We shall not seek to explain the technique further but instead try to compare how this equipment and technique of ET fits together with the observations we have of different phenomenons.

And we shall not let the saboteurs among ET spread smoke by fooling us too focus on a single phenomenon, but instead bring all these phenomenons up at once.
Which means that we shall connect the dots between all of these phenomenons:
Hearing voices, seing visions, religion, God, demons, angels, spirits, The nobel Prize Winners intuition, the psychologists theories about the subconsciousness, dowsing, remote viewing, telepathy. . .

All of these phenomenons can be explained as ET using his quantum machine to read and manipulate the electric signals in a human brain.
Perhaps remote viewing and telepathy are not obvious enough, but i will help your thinking by telling that is as easy as using ET as a sattelite.




Logic Rule No 1
A phenomenon that we can't control ourselves, is controlled by someone else.

That someone else must be ET I assume, because there are no other candidates.

If we compare Rule No 1 to the Nobel Prize Winners intuition then we will find that it fits.
If you read all the links on the web about intuition then the description about how to use it is like this.
Explain to yourself what the trouble is, and then sit on your lazy ass and do something else and wait for the solution to pop up in your head. Sounds like someone else is doing the work of thinking !
If you have read the article about Nobel Prize Winners intuition then the keywords are, "the scientist can't control it".
The intuition comes when it is most needed, helpful moments of brilliant ALIEN thinking in their brains. The keywords are "They can't control their intuition". Why ?

If you have any brain then the answer to that question is because someone else controls it. ET

The same is true to the psychologist theories about the subconsciousness. We can't control it.
And another clue to ET's involvement is that the subconsciousness is supposed to have power that exceds the power of the conscious mind. It sounds like we have a supercomputer in our heads that we can't control, or the right explanation, we have the power and technique of ET in our heads.

Many other phenomenons like remote viewing or telepathy can be explained simply as using ET as a sattelite.

Stanford Research Institute SRI have done some research about remote viewing, including electric shielding in a cage at the bottom of the sea. Their conclusion is that if there is any radiowaves involved then it must be ELF, (but the truth is quantum physics).
Some of these ET are very helpful, but do their work in a silent manner that fools people to belive that they have the power themselves.
And if you dig deep enough then you will find that these people that claim to have superpowers, cant't control it themselves.
A clue is from the Bible when St: Paul with his commanding words could shut off annoying peoples superpower.

All other phenomenons, hearing voices, seing visions, God, demons, angels are too obviously controlled by someone else. ET



Serious scientist don't like humbug about ectoplasma, spirits, ghosts, angels demons, Gods.
If God is real, then God is ET. (God is no ectoplasma ghost.) The same is true to demons, spirits, angels, they are ET.

A demon is something that remote controls your brain. Which we can compare to the observation of the phenomenon of people having multiple personalities.
Or like the Zombies in this thread writing negative on this subject or joking it away. spreading smoke to hide ET.

If you are a Christian then you have to accept that Jesus casted out demons, a true Christian believes in demons.
But nowadays we want a scientific explanattion to the phenomenon instead of ectoplasma-bullshit. => Demons are ET that use quantum physics.

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If we let ET fool us to disconnect the dots between each phenomenon then it is easy for him to spread smoke and hide himself.
Never disconnect the dots. Or else the pieces of the puzzle will disintegrate and make ET invisible.

Why should we seek any different explanation to people hearing the voice of God and people hearing other voices in their heads.
And the truth is that the psychologist don't have any scientific explanation to hearing voices. The only thing they have done is inventing a name for it and drugging and locking the worst cases in. Only a minority of all the people hearing voices ends up at a hospital.

Curt,
I believe you. Will you answer a few questions for me Curt?

1. Do you actually physically hear voices in your head or do you think its more like ET just planting thoughts in your head?

2. Have you experimented to see if you can intentionally get ET to put thoughts into your head?

3. Have you experimented to see if you can block it? Can you block or resist the thoughts or impulses that an ET might plant in your head? Can you control it?

4. Have you tried blocking electromagnetic signals with a Faraday cage around your head? In theory you could interfere with an incoming signal by making a sort of motor-bike helmet from Tin-foil. But it needs to be Iron or other ferris metal and not aluminium foil. Aluminium won't work!

5. How often does it happen?

John.

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And you have proof of this?

Real scientists don't work that way.

Real scientists do experiments that will confirm or kill a theory.
And that's exactly what SETI have to do. Experiments.
When a lot of independent research teams have done the same experiments and come to the same conclusion, it's time to talk about proof.


We have no reports of receiving any radio signals from ET, but that have not stopped SETI from raising all those expensive antennas and using your computers to analyze the noise.
We also have millions of reports from people that claim to have received strange signals in their heads, and SETI will ignore it.
Sounds like SETI are acting irrational, like being remote controlled. Check your brains.

Simple logic is the tool that will help you know when you are remote controlled. If you have no intelligent thinking then there is no hope for you.
The logical thinking says, do the experiments.

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I can confirm that I myself have a lot of experience of ET.
Experience that confirms that the technique used must be about remote controlling the signals in a brain.

But my intention is not to become a pathetic potato, but instead to help find the path.
Pointing my finger at the facts and phenomenons that need attention.
And to get those lazy scientists to just do the experiments.



What's the next step for SETI ?

Sorry to kill the party.
But I believe that SETI assign it higher priority to find ET instead of running those radios.

If I'm right then any civilization rising technologically in the galaxy will have a time window of perhaps 50 - 500 years until they throw the radios away and begin using quantum physics. SETI can still detect the civilizations that are at the same scientific level as ourselves with your radios. How many zeros in the new multiplying probability factor is that 0.00001 ?



A real scientist and Nobel Prize winner never listen to those negative Zombie parrots that says that it's impossible, you can't do that and you can't do thit. And I think that even a bumble bee doesn't listen to maniacs that say it can't fly.
Pessimists have never helped the scientific progress. But instead been a knife in the back. Often remote controlled by evil ET.

It's the curious people that will lead us forward. Those doing the work, those doing the experiments, collecting the data, and using their fantasy and the help of ET's intuition.
Someone must do the work instead of only talking in this forum. And fight the laziness to get the work done.


The right thing for SETI to do is start collecting the data, dig dig and dig deep into the matter. Build up a database. And connect the dots.
With the knowledge about the technique being used it will become easier to filter out the smoke. Zombies that claim to have supernatural powers that they don't have. Or claim to have seen or done things that they haven't. And don't be fooled by "holy zapper-dope" "angels" or religious smoke like the scientist Angelo.

Next step is to plan the experiments that will proove ET and this quantum communication theory.
Some of these ETs will cooperate and other evil ETs will try sabotage everything. Trust me.
And we must do something against the sabotage.

The new thing in the experiments is that we shall not think about people as having any supernatural powers themselves.
They are only "quantum tranceivers" connected to the sattelite (ET) in the sky.

This project is also about mobilizing people and scientists from other organizations.


The scientists have done experiments before, about for example remote viewing. But they did not understand what they were doing.
And they did the mistake to ask ET to proove some powerless peoples superpower. And ET gave them an honest answer by doing almost nothing. (except for a tiny statistic peak) Or else they would have fooled us to believe in the wrong explanation.
It's perhaps time to renew those remote viewing experiments. But this time with people acting as tranceivers and ET is the sattelite.

An experiment that can verify the ET-sattelite:
Find two teams of people that have connection to exactly the same ET and let ET transfer information between the teams.
It there are two teams instead of two persons, maybe that can help neutralize the sabotage.
And I think ET can speak for himself when selecting people that he can control, if you are smart and line these people up, each with a number. They will hear the numbers to linked people in their heads.



Speculation :
With a communication channel to ET can we receive warnings about disaster like the nuclear catastrophe in japan from those few ETs that have the precognition capability.
Perhaps it's possible to use the skills of SETI's programmers to connect peoples quantum receiver brains together into a gigantic more sensitive quantum receiver. A receiver that is also more immune to jamming.

The backside of the idea is that it can be some trouble to get people to be active and to cooperate.
Perhaps a project that has to wait for the mobilization of the people that really are able to listen to ET.

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Hi John,
Your back!

Curt,
You really are a lunatic! If you weren't a lunatic, you would have answered my questions. Curt how can you talk about experiments when you won't answer the questions your asked?

John.

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Let's, for the sake of argument, say that Aliens can give us messages in our heads, but only certain people. OK thats fine and dandy. Just explain how the aliens learned all the languages of the world to place those messages in the language that the specific person could understand. Or does the message go through some sort of "babel-fish" before the person receiving the message gets it. what if these voices got mixed and I suddenly started only hearing Russian or chinese voices.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Let's, for the sake of argument, say that Aliens can give us messages in our heads, but only certain people. OK thats fine and dandy. Just explain how the aliens learned all the languages of the world to place those messages in the language that the specific person could understand. Or does the message go through some sort of "babel-fish" before the person receiving the message gets it. what if these voices got mixed and I suddenly started only hearing Russian or chinese voices.

skildude,
I asked Curt if he was actually physically hearing voices, but he didn't answer the question.

But from his website, it seems that he does not physically "hear" the voices. Its seems that its more like he feels someone is externally kind of influencing his thoughts. I believe he feels its more like ET's are implanting "feelings". On his website, he frequently uses the word "Intuition", that's how Curt describes it. He feels the ET's are influencing his Intuitive thoughts. As opposed to ET's actually talking to him with spoken words of English or German or French language.

It might be like some stranger looking at you across a crowed room with a very mean and scary look, but making you "feel" so terrified in your mind, you leave the room. Its influence at a distance, but without actually being able to see the person your influencing.

John.

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Good science news article; Can Quantum Physics Explain God?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-baksa/who-is-god-can-he-be-expl_b_894003.html

John :)

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I met ET for some days ago while fishing salmon at the creek beside the nearby rocketrange and he asked me:

- Do you believe this Curt can do something against quantic stupidity?
- Probably yes. I answered.
- This might cost a lot! Replied ET.
- Yes, however his quantic machine do not accept quantic cash nor quantic cards...

I think Curt and John should form a team.
AS for me I will stay with the proven aluminum foil beanie.

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I think Curt and John should form a team.
AS for me I will stay with the proven aluminum foil beanie.

Use Tin foil! The aluminum foil won't block the radiation:) Them aliens are clever.

John.

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I think Curt and John should form a team.
AS for me I will stay with the proven aluminum foil beanie.

Use Tin foil! The aluminum foil won't block the radiation:) Them aliens are clever.

John.

No it has to be four layers. Tin, Lead, Aluminum and Copper. And don't forget to put some in your shoes so they don't beam it up from the ground.

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I prefer to have the Nads covered as well. You never know, the ET guys may be trying to sterilize us.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

I prefer to have the Nads covered as well. You never know, the ET guys may be trying to sterilize us.

Or make us have more babies for them to control. I mean, what is a race of humans to control through their thoughts if you make them sterile.

hi johnny i only got back for one night so i couldn't reply and i'm only back for 1 day now but this thread is one of the funniest things i have read in ages the lads have excelled themselves and come up with some great one liners in some cases two liners.i will be back crunching in september and chatting a bit more i hope

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sorry for pinching your line chris and adding a few extra "a"s and "y"s

hi johnny i only got back for one night so i couldn't reply and i'm only back for 1 day now but this thread is one of the funniest things i have read in ages the lads have excelled themselves and come up with some great one liners in some cases two liners.i will be back crunching in September and chatting a bit more i hope

john3760,
Ahhhhhh.... glad to see you popping in, even if its only for a few minutes my friend! How are things going on the festival scene? Now John i hope you are working hard and not spending all your time drinking, dancing and having a general good time!

By the way, SETI did not detect ET while you were gone. We will keep holding the fort here until your return in September.

John.

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So ET has been found and verified and I can quit donating my computer time to the Seti@home project. I never expected to see a post like that on this forum but I guess we all need a good laugh or two now and then.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.