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Message 1120970 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:20:07 UTC - in response to Message 1120968.  

You both don't have IPv6 enabled in the OS, or? ;-)

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What is if you test all the URLs from here in 'message 1120872', in your browser?



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no it is deinstalled, on Xp make ipV6 in the aktuall time surfing so slow, without speed is double so high...

I installed IPv6 on all of My boxes when it was first mentioned some time ago.
I seem to have no slow downs.

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Message 1120973 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:27:42 UTC

AFAIK, IPv6 should/could be enabled in OS only if the hardware (modem/router) support this also (also ISP).

IIRC, only one or two new router are available which support IPv6.

Your modem/router support IPv6?


I have still only IPv4 in my WinXP.
Because I know my DSL-Router's firmware can only IPv4.
If I have good luck the manufacturer will publish a new firmware with/for IPv6. If not I need to buy a new DSL-Router if my ISP will go IPv6.


This infos are a few months old, for a long time I was interested about.
Maybe it's outdated.


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Message 1120975 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:30:44 UTC - in response to Message 1120973.  

AFAIK, IPv6 should/could be enabled in OS only if the hardware (modem/router) support this also (also ISP).

IIRC, only one or two new router are available which support IPv6.

Your modem/router support IPv6?


I have still only IPv4 in my WinXP.
Because I know my DSL-Router's firmware can only IPv4.
If I have good luck the manufacturer will publish a new firmware with/for IPv6. If not I need to buy a new DSL-Router if my ISP will go IPv6.


This infos are a few months old, for a long time I was interested about.
Maybe it's outdated.


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My modem And router both support IPv6.

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Message 1120987 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 1120975.  
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Maybe the internet connection/hardware/ISP of S@h don't support IPv6?


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Message 1120990 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:46:27 UTC - in response to Message 1120987.  

Maybe the internet connection/hardware/ISP of S@h don't support IPv6?


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Only since 15 June?

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Message 1120993 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 1120990.  

Maybe the internet connection/hardware/ISP of S@h don't support IPv6?


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Only since 15 June?

I dunno....
Martin said he tested both with and without IPV6.
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Message 1120994 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:51:19 UTC - in response to Message 1120990.  

Only since 15 June?


If you there changed the settings/hardware..
And S@h had never IPv6.

;-)

Or maybe since then something is going wrong at S@h.

I don't know if this could be the prob. Just an idea..


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Message 1120996 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:53:04 UTC - in response to Message 1120990.  

Maybe the internet connection/hardware/ISP of S@h don't support IPv6?


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Only since 15 June?


ups... bad humor attack ! lol
this were very heavy
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Message 1121051 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 18:59:11 UTC


Just so there's no (or less) confusion, all my testing proved for me was that ping should always work even when tracert and/or pathping fail. And globally, tracert and pathping can no longer be considered reliable in all cases.


    [C:\]tracert 208.68.240.20

    Tracing route to setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 * * * Request timed out.
    2 * ^C
    [C:\]ping 208.68.240.20

    Pinging 208.68.240.20 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 208.68.240.20: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=41
    Reply from 208.68.240.20: bytes=32 time=123ms TTL=41
    Reply from 208.68.240.20: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=41
    Reply from 208.68.240.20: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=41

    Ping statistics for 208.68.240.20:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 119ms, Maximum = 131ms, Average = 123ms



These results are with the pc connected directly to comcast' cable modem. No home router to interfere/confuse the issue. Cable modem is DOCSIS 3.0/ipv6 compatible. With ipv4 only:

[C:\]netsh interface ipv6 show state
6over4 State : default
V4-Compatible Addresses: default

[C:\]netsh interface ipv6 show global
IPv6 is not installed.

My previous tests were with my router in the loop, so I wanted to check that nothing changed without it. I could do the ipv6 part again, too, but I think this is conclusive enough. If you want me to, just say so. No biggie (I'll just lose a few minutes of crunch time to a reboot! lol)

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Message 1121061 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 19:16:29 UTC

At the current rate of RAC drop I won't be able to post in about 12 1/2 days. ;))

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Message 1121064 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 19:28:01 UTC

okay...I added Google public dns...internet works, boinc still does not.
I'm currently going through Cox Cable...I might get them involved in this.

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Message 1121067 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 19:30:39 UTC - in response to Message 1121051.  


1 * * * Request timed out.
2 * ^C

Have you cancel after the first hop?
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Message 1121070 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 19:43:08 UTC - in response to Message 1121061.  
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At the current rate of RAC drop I won't be able to post in about 12 1/2 days. ;))


If need be, someone can move the conversation to Q & A. No RAC required.

@Twisted - Can't hurt. The worst that could happen is they can only confirm the remote failures.

@Link Yes, it timed out. Always the same. I didn't post the pathping results before, they may be more informative:

C:\>pathping 208.68.240.20
Tracing route to setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  0  solarwind.hsd1.md.comcast.net. [xx.xxx.xx.xxx]
  1     *        *        *
Computing statistics for 25 seconds...
            Source to Here   This Node/Link
Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
  0                                           solarwind.hsd1.md.comcast.net. [xx.xxx.xx.xxx]
                              100/ 100 =100%   |
  1  ---     100/ 100 =100%     0/ 100 =  0%  solarwind [0.0.0.0]

Trace complete.


Pathping ends like this without me doing anything.

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ps "xx.xxx.xx.xxx" - was my ip address.
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Message 1121092 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 20:02:18 UTC
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OK, I screwed up. Tracert did the "* * * Request timed out." thing 17 times, and then ended with this:

18 107 ms 99 ms 94 ms setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20]

Trace complete.


So, I didn't let it run long enough before. /edit/ I don't have that window any more, but I think I was canceling after 7 or 8 timeouts...

Thanks Link! for the "hint".

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Message 1121105 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 20:14:30 UTC

Hurricane Electric have a tool they call Looking Glass at http://lg.he.net/ which allows doing ping or traceroute from many of the internet routers around the world. It defaults to doing traceroute from one of their Fremont California routers, put either a hostname or IP number in the IP: field and click Probe.

For awhile last week 208.68.240.20 was unreachable from Fremont but worked just fine from the Equinix Palo Alto or Equinix San Jose routers. That didn't last very long.

Another possible use, of course, is to trace from the router to your own system. That might even reveal where somebody is breaking connectivity.

Jim_S wrote:
At the current rate of RAC drop I won't be able to post in about 12 1/2 days. ;))

Luckily the rate isn't constant since it's an exponential average. It'll drop by half each week if none of your 36 pendings validate, so we'll bid you goodbye in around 10 weeks.
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Message 1121151 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 21:25:35 UTC - in response to Message 1121105.  

doing a tracert to all 13 hosts I get a timeout once I get to berkeley.edu after
128.32.0.37 & 128.32.0.58


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Message 1121155 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 21:29:01 UTC

Pathping, ping, and tracert will not always work if a router, server etc. somewhere along the lines are set to not send a packet back. This is not always reliable and doesn't mean that the server is down if it's configured this way. If they have ICMP blocked on their end, which a lot of companies and universities do, it will show you there is nothing there. IE try pinging someone's home address that has the pings blocked and see what happens. It will time out.

As far as paths to the servers, of course there is multiple paths, there are multiple paths to every address online, especially when you start talking about coming into a university or any other company that has a large connection based off level3 tech. Sometimes route vary wildly when comparing connections inside the US and them coming from overseas!

IPV6 being on or off will not matter, your computer will use one or the other dependent on what it needs to communicate and how you have it configured. So it will not matter if you have it enabled or not. With that being said if you aren't using IPV6 you may as well disable it as it will take additional overhead off your machine for something you aren't even using.

Bottom line is Berkley doesn't have anything wrong with their setup, unless they are specifically blocking your netblock. Which I doubt, however it doesn't mean that a campus admin hasn't done it due to spam etc that could be coming into the overall system from your country possibly. I would suggest instead of using another website or tool to check your connection to use "ping" or "tracert" from a command prompt and use an alternate DNS to see if you have any other options. Check out DNS Benchmark from GRC it will give you the most optimal DNS's to use and try again.

At this point I don't believe there is anything else that anyone can advise you on unless someone from the project has some insight. Personally if it was me I would try changing the DNS servers my computer is using. It only take about a minute and more than likely get you a different routing to see if it fixes your issues.
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Message 1121163 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 21:36:29 UTC - in response to Message 1121105.  

I have changed DNS as well as used DNSbench.

oh well. yes I rebooted computers and router etc.

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Message 1121165 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 21:41:13 UTC - in response to Message 1121163.  

I have changed DNS as well as used DNSbench.

oh well. yes I rebooted computers and router etc.

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All of your machines except the last 5 have communicated with the servers today? Are those 5 at home and the others at work or something??
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Message 1121174 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 21:50:33 UTC - in response to Message 1121165.  

I was pointing out what I thought was an internal problem as it happened after I was into berkeley.edu. And I am using tracert from the command line.

I am trying to help several others with the same issue.

It seems to be happening for several people from several locations.

But if you say everything is fine I will pass that along and tell them it is on their end :-)

They are past the point of frustrated and angry, and turning off their computers.

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