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Message 1120687 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 2:16:42 UTC

$ traceroute setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
traceroute to setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu (208.68.240.20), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 * * *
2 L100.LSANCA-DSL-20.verizon-gni.net (71.108.177.1) 23.519 ms 22.783 ms 23.264 ms
3 P11-0.LSANCA-LCR-01.verizon-gni.net (130.81.44.162) 23.013 ms 23.719 ms 23.293 ms
4 so-7-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.217) 24.235 ms 99.474 ms 99.893 ms
5 0.so-6-2-0.XT1.LAX7.ALTER.NET (152.63.112.45) 24.169 ms 23.963 ms 24.717 ms
6 0.ge-2-0-0.XL3.LAX15.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.66) 24.199 ms 24.276 ms 24.276 ms
7 TenGigE0-6-1-0.GW4.LAX15.ALTER.NET (152.63.114.209) 24.211 ms TenGigE0-6-2-0.GW4.LAX15.ALTER.NET (152.63.114.213) 25.021 ms 40.168 ms
8 teliasonera-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.21.42) 24.921 ms 24.337 ms 28.439 ms
9 sjo-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.16) 35.734 ms 38.447 ms 46.056 ms
10 hurricane-113209-sjo-bb1.c.telia.net (213.248.86.54) 37.956 ms 38.021 ms 40.680 ms
11 64.71.140.42 (64.71.140.42) 36.689 ms 35.779 ms 35.814 ms
12 208.68.243.254 (208.68.243.254) 55.821 ms 43.790 ms 47.918 ms
13 * * *
14 * * *
...

but:
$ ping setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
PING setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu (208.68.240.20): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 208.68.240.20: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=41.235 ms
64 bytes from 208.68.240.20: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=51.199 ms

So we obviously reach it, even if we can't trace the entire route.
And I don't have u/l d/l issues.

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Message 1120696 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 2:48:30 UTC - in response to Message 1120648.  
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Command prompt commands,
ipconfig/flushdns did nothing.
tracert to berkeley stopped about 3 hops short. (208.68.240.20)
Ping timed out 5 times in a row. (208.68.240.20)
I would hate to detach/Reattach and lose all of the work on my boxes.
I don't want to reset S@H.
All of my equiptment checked out.
My ISP and or firewalls aren't the problem.(Called my ISP)
And ALL of my other projects are having a Blast.
I don't know what to do...I'm Stumped. :((

Only a guess, but could it be the old problem with DNS not resolving properly?

Try entering these lines in the HOSTS file:

208.68.240.16 setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.20 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.13 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu

And restart Boinc.

Where do I find the HOSTS file?

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Message 1120699 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 3:01:26 UTC - in response to Message 1120696.  
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Command prompt commands,
ipconfig/flushdns did nothing.
tracert to berkeley stopped about 3 hops short. (208.68.240.20)
Ping timed out 5 times in a row. (208.68.240.20)
I would hate to detach/Reattach and lose all of the work on my boxes.
I don't want to reset S@H.
All of my equiptment checked out.
My ISP and or firewalls aren't the problem.(Called my ISP)
And ALL of my other projects are having a Blast.
I don't know what to do...I'm Stumped. :((

Only a guess, but could it be the old problem with DNS not resolving properly?

Try entering these lines in the HOSTS file:

208.68.240.16 setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.20 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.13 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu

And restart Boinc.

Where do I find the HOSTS file?


At WinXP I (you have also this OS) have the hosts file here:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

Read carefully the description in this file before you edit it.


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Message 1120701 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 3:07:00 UTC - in response to Message 1120699.  

BTW.

Maybe test the recommended BOINC version 6.12.26 .
Maybe it work better.


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Message 1120707 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 3:34:19 UTC - in response to Message 1120701.  

BTW.

Maybe test the recommended BOINC version 6.12.26 .
Maybe it work better.


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Thanks Sutaru,
I think I will try that in the morning when I'm not worn out. It sounds safer.
Also Thanks very much for your help.

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Message 1120766 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 6:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 1120648.  

Command prompt commands,
ipconfig/flushdns did nothing.
tracert to berkeley stopped about 3 hops short. (208.68.240.20)
Ping timed out 5 times in a row. (208.68.240.20)
I would hate to detach/Reattach and lose all of the work on my boxes.
I don't want to reset S@H.
All of my equiptment checked out.
My ISP and or firewalls aren't the problem.(Called my ISP)
And ALL of my other projects are having a Blast.
I don't know what to do...I'm Stumped. :((

Only a guess, but could it be the old problem with DNS not resolving properly?

Try entering these lines in the HOSTS file:

208.68.240.16 setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.20 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.13 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu

And restart Boinc.


i have make it and it did not clean the problem

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Message 1120784 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 7:41:36 UTC - in response to Message 1120766.  

Try entering these lines in the HOSTS file:

208.68.240.16 setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.20 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.13 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu

And restart Boinc.


i have make it and it did not clean the problem

Can you actually ping setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu or the corresponding IP?
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Message 1120796 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 8:50:58 UTC

Can u please also test it with:
ping -l 1500 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
(after the dash, this is a small L :-) )
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Message 1120798 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 9:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 1120796.  

Can u please also test it with:
ping -l 1500 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
(after the dash, this is a small L :-) )



ping -l 1500 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu

Ping setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20] mit 1500 Bytes Daten:

Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. /timeoverflow
Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. /timeoverflow
Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. /timeoverflow
Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. /timeoverflow

Ping-Statistik für 208.68.240.20:
Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4 (100% Verlust/Lost),
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Message 1120803 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 9:35:59 UTC - in response to Message 1120796.  

Can u please also test it with:
ping -l 1500 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
(after the dash, this is a small L :-) )


Highlander,
you bring me to a new idea to test, like the Server is to heavy busy....


ping -w 103000 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu


Ping setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20] mit 32 Bytes Daten:
Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.


this is not the right thing

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Message 1120823 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 10:51:06 UTC - in response to Message 1120796.  

Can u please also test it with:
ping -l 1500 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
(after the dash, this is a small L :-) )

At least the German ping version needs the -f flag in conjunction with the -l flag:
ping -a -l 1448 -f 208.68.240.20
Ping setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20] mit 1448 Bytes Daten:
Antwort von 208.68.240.20: Bytes=1448 Zeit=245ms TTL=53

With -l 1449, I get
Paket müsste fragmentiert werden, DF-Flag ist jedoch gesetzt.

Gruß,
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Message 1120845 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 13:06:24 UTC

Yes, Gundolf, your right, -f Flag with -l is needed to see, if the packets from our clients to berkeley are somewhere dropped due to fragmented packets.

But to come to a result, this is a little difficult to analyze this behaviour, cause in the end it can also be "only" a bad routing table ...
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Message 1120853 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 13:36:13 UTC - in response to Message 1120823.  

Can u please also test it with:
ping -l 1500 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
(after the dash, this is a small L :-) )

At least the German ping version needs the -f flag in conjunction with the -l flag:
ping -a -l 1448 -f 208.68.240.20
Ping setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20] mit 1448 Bytes Daten:
Antwort von 208.68.240.20: Bytes=1448 Zeit=245ms TTL=53

With -l 1449, I get
Paket müsste fragmentiert werden, DF-Flag ist jedoch gesetzt.

Gruß,
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ping -a -l 1448 -f 208.68.240.20

Ping setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20] mit 1448 Bytes Daten:

Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

Ping-Statistik für 208.68.240.20:
Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4 (100% Verlust),


and i have contact my provider, there no changes or test in the last time, have spoken with a technican ... so i make easy on this time the question when IPv6 starts ;-)
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Message 1120862 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 14:00:16 UTC - in response to Message 1120707.  
Last modified: 24 Jun 2011, 14:11:18 UTC

BTW.

Maybe test the recommended BOINC version 6.12.26 .
Maybe it work better.


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Thanks Sutaru,
I think I will try that in the morning when I'm not worn out. It sounds safer.
Also Thanks very much for your help.

Jim Scott

Tried the upgrades...Still no Joy.
<EDIT>Got the same ping and tracert results.</EDIT>
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Message 1120874 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 14:20:12 UTC
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You both don't have IPv6 enabled in the OS, or? ;-)

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What is if you test all the URLs from here in 'message 1120872', in your browser?



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Message 1120914 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 15:55:32 UTC
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FYI...

Even though I do not have any connection problems with SETI, I have discovered that Pathping and Tracert are now useless here.

My ISP is Comcast, and I saw some web talk about network changes being made to limit or prevent DDOS attacks that impact some network tools. Since I see failures/timeouts with these tools before reaching any external locations, I suspect that is what Comcast has done. I know pathping was working just fine here months ago.

PING still works for me, and I can ping all the 208.68... addresses everyone is trying to reach without fail.

Martin
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ps. tested both with and without ipv6 installed in xp.
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Message 1120922 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 16:18:14 UTC - in response to Message 1120874.  
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You both don't have IPv6 enabled in the OS, or? ;-)

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What is if you test all the URLs from here in 'message 1120872', in your browser?



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Yep IPV6 is installed.

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Message 1120923 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 16:27:17 UTC

Your IPv4 address on the public Internet appears to be 66.38.56.134

No IPv6 address detected [more info]

World IPv6 day is June 8th, 2011. No problems are anticipated for you with this browser, at this location. [more info]

When a publisher offers both IPv4 and IPv6, your browser appears to be happy to take the IPv4 site without delay.

Connections to IPv6-only sites are timing out. Any web site that is IPv6 only, will appear to be down to you.

Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have no access to the IPv6 Internet, or is not configured to use it. This may in the future restrict your ability to reach IPv6-only sites. [more info]
Your readiness scores
10/10 for your IPv4 stability and readiness, when publishers offer both IPv4 and IPv6
0/10 for your IPv6 stability and readiness, when publishers are forced to go IPv6 only

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Message 1120926 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 16:32:33 UTC

I have noticed that for some people on their trace route the last hops looks like this.

14 84ms 86ms 90ms 208.68.243.254
15 89ms 84ms 88ms setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20]

However for some it looks a bit like this.

14 84ms 86ms 90ms 208.68.243.254
15 * * *
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * * *

Sort of like their might be two different routes from 208.68.243.254.


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Message 1120968 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:16:03 UTC - in response to Message 1120874.  

You both don't have IPv6 enabled in the OS, or? ;-)

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What is if you test all the URLs from here in 'message 1120872', in your browser?



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no it is deinstalled, on Xp make ipV6 in the aktuall time surfing so slow, without speed is double so high...

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