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Message 1126184 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 5:13:51 UTC - in response to Message 1126032.



I know i'm right in my scientific findings because God told me!



Did you get it in writing? Is it notarized?
Can you ask this God dude to reveal the secrets of the universe to me too?


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Message 1126291 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 17:54:32 UTC - in response to Message 1126032.

... 6. Energy is ALWAYS conserved! ...

... Thou shalt not follow false prophets ... God told me!


Too much Guinness and a love affair with the Blarney Stone?!

;-)

Very good! :-)


By the power of the Higg's boson!

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Message 1126577 - Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 14:15:59 UTC - in response to Message 1126184.
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Did you get it in writing? Is it notarized?
Can you ask this God dude to reveal the secrets of the universe to me too?


Robert,
You know how it works, you have heard it from other people. You have to ask yourself, you have to pray to God, and really mean it! Its science, not magic! And don't get carried away with all that spiritual nonsense either. God can't give you something that's impossible to give you. He could give you the answer but you might be incapable of understanding it because of your own limitations in physics education.

Robert what secrets of the universe specifically do you want to know? I will ask God and i will tell you the answer if you don't want to try the praying experiment yourself!

Martin said:
Too much Guinness and a love affair with the Blarney Stone?!

;-)

Very good! :-)


By the power of the Higg's boson!

Keep searchin',
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Martin,
Don't be ridiculous my friend, there is no Higgs Boson either. God told me!

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Message 1126583 - Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 14:42:19 UTC
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Look i want to be clear so people here understand where i'm coming from.

I asked God for help in my scientific work, and God helped me! Because i truly asked for help, and believed in God, God showed me the whole book of scientific knowledge! And i'm not kidding, i have the book! Parts of the Book of Scientific Knowledge are coded into the Bible. But this book is very different to the Bible.

God's Book of Scientific Knowledge is colossal. When he first showed me the book, i did not understand the book because it was written in a language i did not understand. I had to learn the language the book was written in. Only now, after months of work am i just starting to understand God's Book of Scientific Knowledge. The stuff written in the book is truly amazing, its shocking even! But it will take me many years to read God's Book of Scientific Knowledge and understand it. But i have aalready extracted many scientific answers from the book.

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Message 1126589 - Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 15:00:11 UTC

Why not scan this book and put some of it online here?
I'm sure there are more than a few linguists that would really like to help you interpret the language in the book.
Even just a dozen or two pages would certainly go a great distance in proving your claim.

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Message 1126590 - Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 15:03:53 UTC

The Galaxy Song

Just remember that you’re standing on a planet that’s evolving
Revolving at 900 miles an hour
It’s orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it’s reckoned
A sun that’s the source of all our power

The Sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles an day
In outer spiral orb at 40,000 miles an hour
Of the galaxy we call the ‘Milky Way”

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars
It’s a 100,000 light years side to side
It bulges in the middle 16,000 light years thick
But it’s only just 3,000 light years wide

We’re 30,000 light years from galactic central point
We go ‘round every 200,000,000 years
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe

Our universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whiz
As fast as it can go, the speed of light you know
12,000,000 million miles a minute, and that’s the fastest speed there is

So remember when you’re feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space
‘Cause I’m afraid there’s buggar all down here on earth

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Message 1126594 - Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 15:13:56 UTC

And pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space
‘Cause I’m afraid there’s buggar all down here on earth


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Nice freudian slip, it's spelt Idle!

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Message 1126596 - Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 15:46:31 UTC

Yikes! Sorry about that.
I just copied and pasted without really reading it.
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Message 1126652 - Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 19:50:07 UTC - in response to Message 1126589.
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Why not scan this book and put some of it online here?
I'm sure there are more than a few linguists that would really like to help you interpret the language in the book.
Even just a dozen or two pages would certainly go a great distance in proving your claim.

Robert,
God's Book of Scientific knowledge is freely available to anyone that wants to read the book, its not hidden. But here's the thing Robert; This is a guesstimate - Since 1960, about 40 million people have read pages or extracts from exactly the same book that i'm reading, God's Book of Scientific Knowledge. Now even though about 40 million people have read parts of the book, they could not understand the book. The people who don't understand the language think the book is something else!!

How could that be? How could 40 million people read the same book and not know what they were reading? I will tell you why!!! Because its God's book and for whatever reason, he seems to have chosen me to be the translator and interpreter of the book. Nobody understands the book because they can't read the language. But i understand the language. God put his name on the front page of the book of science. God's name is written deep in the mathematics of nature. At the very root of all scientific knowledge, at the very root of nature itself, God's name is written there, written in the language of science, its written in mathematics.

Robert i could show you the book, but you would not see it because you would not understand the language. Someone has to decode, interpret and explain how it works before you will understand. But there is light at the end of the tunnel, and when the time is right, i will show the book to everyone, and everyone will understand. The greatest scientific book in the history of mankind.

Until God tells me the time is right to publish my work, people will just have to believe on pure faith alone, just like the Bible itself suggests. The Lord God is my Shepherd and he will let me know when the time is right for everyone to see the book in all its Glory.

I might also add.....The book is the most beautiful book i have ever seen in my life. Its overwhelmingly beautiful!

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Message 1126658 - Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 20:22:35 UTC
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Robert,
Hang on, what i just said makes no sense without putting it in context. Try this for starters;

There is a mathematical error on the following page, a very big error (And No, i did not add the error myself). Read the page and see if you can find the error; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson

The error is NOT hidden, and its not hard to find the error, i promise you!! I'm being very honest here!

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Message 1126890 - Posted: 11 Jul 2011, 23:34:26 UTC - in response to Message 1126652.
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... God's Book of Scientific knowledge is freely available to anyone that wants to read the book, its not hidden. But here's the thing Robert; This is a guesstimate - Since 1960, about 40 million people have read pages or extracts from exactly the same book that i'm reading, God's Book of Scientific Knowledge. Now even though about 40 million people have read parts of the book, they could not understand the book. The people who don't understand the language think the book is something else!!

How could that be? How could 40 million people read the same book and not know what they were reading? I will tell you why!!! Because its God's book and for whatever reason, he seems to have chosen me to be the translator and interpreter of the book. Nobody understands the book because they can't read the language. ...


Phew! OK, I'll give this one a try, if only due to proximity effects of Guinness...

So how can it be?

There are many 'understandings' of what might be meant by the description and name "God". I've heard examples covering everything from fatalism, to an acceptance of Gaia-isms, to blind religious dogma, to deeper descriptions attempting to describe or explain existence... For example, I suspect that Einstein used the term 'God' in a scientific sense for his world view of physics and of mathematical understanding. The description 'God' has many meanings to many people. So when the word 'God' is used, without a lot of context, you cannot know what precisely is meant... Nor whether shallow or deep in meaning and whether shallow or deep in understanding...

And so there is a book that supposedly has 40 million readers and it has left them all confused and unknowing. That sounds like an extremely badly written book! Why write a book if you don't want to clearly express some message?

Or is it some Marketing scam to exploit the conspiracy market?

That reminds me of the portrayal of the Cabala by Enrico Fermi - a highly elaborate and intricate game twisted around random snippets of out of context scripture and conspiracy. The game is of "if only the pieces can be put together to complete The Puzzle". Except there is no puzzle other than the open ended result of "anything goes".

Just like the Bible Code, you can see anything you like in random numbers, especially so given enough random numbers. We see examples of that for the s@h data when anti-virus scanners for Microsoft systems see viruses in the random radio noise in the s@h WUs. Yep, there may well be a number sequence in there that matches a Microsoft targeted virus. Does that mean that we've picked up an alien signal trying to infect your PC?...


Why would one individual be blessed (or cursed) with seeing something that 40 million other similar people do not see? Genius or madman?

Note that for Einstein, he could communicate his ideas in ways that many others could check, test, and understand. We are still testing his ideas all these years later. No blind 'belief' needed.


Hic! :-)

Keep searchin',
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Message 1126970 - Posted: 12 Jul 2011, 9:17:43 UTC
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This was Maxwell's work, of course. Then came Einstein. Planck. Bohr, De Broglie, Dirac, Heisenberg,Schroedinger, Fermi and all the others, too many to mention, but I shall mention Abdus Salam because I have known him personally in Trieste. He was a devout Muslim and interrupted his activities to pray on a carpet oriented in the direction of La Mecca. If God had wanted to speak to mankind He could have done it via this pious man. But we are still here in this "lacrimarum vallis" searching for the Higgs boson through also a program running on this PC.
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Message 1126992 - Posted: 12 Jul 2011, 13:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 1126890.

... God's Book of Scientific knowledge ...


... So how can it be?

... reminds me of the portrayal of the Cabala by Enrico Fermi - a highly elaborate and intricate game twisted around random snippets of out of context scripture and conspiracy. The game is of "if only the pieces can be put together to complete The Puzzle". Except there is no puzzle other than the open ended result of "anything goes". ...


Ooops... Crossed neurons on that one! I meant Umberto Eco (See his novel: Foucault's Pendulum). Enrico Fermi has other connections... ;-)


Keep searchin',
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Message 1126995 - Posted: 12 Jul 2011, 13:40:34 UTC - in response to Message 1126992.
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Yes. It's true that Fermi's name can be found everywhere, from the Tevatron to a Gamma Ray Satellite to a graphic board. I learned that the PWR nuclear reactor in Trino Vercellese, Italy, now stopped, was named Enrico Fermi but also the fast breeder reactor which scared Detroit in 1966 was named Enrico Fermi. Great man.
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Message 1127439 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 3:03:45 UTC - in response to Message 1126890.
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Phew! OK, I'll give this one a try, if only due to proximity effects of Guinness...

So how can it be?

And so there is a book that supposedly has 40 million readers and it has left them all confused and unknowing. That sounds like an extremely badly written book! Why write a book if you don't want to clearly express some message?

Or is it some Marketing scam to exploit the conspiracy market?

Martin,
The message is clear. Its just people can't read the language, yet! Until someone teaches them the language. That person is me, and i'm not really sure why i personally seem to be the one. Its like an Epiphany from heaven has given me the ability to see things other people can't see.

Can you read this Martin;
"Мартин работает наука программное обеспечение на свой ​​компьютер"

No, you can't read it because you don't speak Russian!! But you can read it if someone can translate the language into English.

Here is the same thing in English;
"Martin runs science software on his computer"

I used Google translator to translate English into Russian!

Now, thats what i am currently doing. I am effectively decoding an immensely complex language and i am now translating the language into English so people can understand the book. Now Martin i tell you that this is not easy by any means. Its slow and its going to take time to decode and translate the language. Martin thats why i can't really put a time frame on when the work will be complete. I can only say sometime in the next few months, but i will definatly be ready by the middle to end of the year 2012 at the latest. If i have enough solid scientific evidence before that, i will publish sooner.

But what i can say at this stage is that the book i am translating is a scientific book written by someone who millions of ordinary people refer to as "God". I'm still working on translation but i already have many scientific answers that go way beyond the science we have today in our science books and academic science journals. Its thousands of years ahead of todays science, but people will still be able to understand it if its explained to them.

Why would one individual be blessed (or cursed) with seeing something that 40 million other similar people do not see? Genius or madman?

Note that for Einstein, he could communicate his ideas in ways that many others could check, test, and understand. We are still testing his ideas all these years later. No blind 'belief' needed.

Keep searchin',
Martin

Martin once i'm finished, you too will be able to read the book and understand the science that was written in the book. And you will also understand why it could only be written by God.

Why me Martin? I can only guess!
Maybe because i'm a scientific thinker.
Maybe because i'm the ultimate skeptic.
Maybe because i was in the right place at the right time.
Maybe because i chose to question both Science and Religion.
Maybe because i have the ability to see through people who are not completely honest.
Maybe because in my heart i always suspected there was a greater power governing the laws of science.
Maybe because i'm able to ask God for help.
Maybe its simply because i am able to reconcile and unite Science and Religion as one and the same thing.

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Message 1127451 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 4:13:31 UTC - in response to Message 1127439.


But what i can say at this stage is that the book i am translating is a scientific book written by someone who millions of ordinary people refer to as "God". I'm still working on translation but i already have many scientific answers that go way beyond the science we have today in our science books and academic science journals.


Written by God? Am I to believe the author credited on the cover of this book is named God?
Is there an Earthly publisher or does the book simply appear before those who want to read it?

JG, you'll have to understand my skepticism over the claims you've made.
Why would God author a book that only one person in forty million can understand?
Doesn't God know English?





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Message 1127473 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 7:35:00 UTC - in response to Message 1127451.
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But what i can say at this stage is that the book i am translating is a scientific book written by someone who millions of ordinary people refer to as "God". I'm still working on translation but i already have many scientific answers that go way beyond the science we have today in our science books and academic science journals.


Written by God? Am I to believe the author credited on the cover of this book is named God?
Is there an Earthly publisher or does the book simply appear before those who want to read it?

JG, you'll have to understand my skepticism over the claims you've made.
Why would God author a book that only one person in forty million can understand?
Doesn't God know English?

Robert,
Yes, God put his name on the front page of the book. And yes, for some reason i'm currently the only one who can see this. But its not a magic trick or a figment of my imagination. I have told you the reason, its because 40 million people have read the same book but they don't interpret the book the way i interpret the book. And trust me, even when it becomes public, the majority of people will still debate my interpretation. At first, only mathematicians and scientists will understand why i'm right. But in time the mathematicians and scientists will be able to confirm to the general public why i'm correct. Only then will the general public understand the book.

So that means my interpretation is debatable about me seeing "God" on the front page of the book. Ahh haa you say, now we have found the flaw in Johnney Guinness's thinking. He is seeing "God" but he is twisting the story to see what he wants to see.

But here is the catch. Yes, the front cover of the book is debatable, and you could still say i'm wrong about the front page of the book. But page 2 of the book cannot be debated. Its the deal clincher here!! Page 2 of the book is 100% solid scientific evidence that cannot be debated. Then if i'm right about page 2 of the book being written by God, then that is the scientific evidence that i'm correct about God being on page one.

And no, God did not write the book in English. But i'm going to translate the book into english so you and everyone else can read and understand it too. The book is written in mathematics. Its immensely complicated and thats why no one can see what i see at the moment.

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Message 1127525 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 13:43:31 UTC - in response to Message 1127451.
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Written by God? Am I to believe the author credited on the cover of this book is named God?

I believe (yes, very deliberate pun-ish use of word there ;-) ) that the Catholic Church has fallen into that trap in that they take words transcribed from about 6000 to 1500 years ago, and then ascribe a literal meaning to those words for today's everyday use and understanding of the words as if they had been written today!

So, you have perfectly believable historical texts describing significant everyday events of thousands of years ago described in the style of language as used thousands of years ago. That is then being read and taught today as though written today. The misapplication of our use of language with the style of speech and writing today converts those old texts into supernatural nonsense!

So for example, as written around two thousand years ago, everyday people were "resurrected from the dead" on a daily basis. Using the language of the day, completely believable. Using today's language, you get the farce of imagining hoards of zombies causing mindless mayhem.


The message there is that you can take any text, and 'impose' any 'interpretation' you like. However, that still doesn't change reality.

Keep searchin',
Martin


NB: In the above example, "resurrection" is used to describe the conversion of someone's religious beliefs from non-belief (or whatever 'false' beliefs) to that of the approved religion of the day. There are no zombies involved in this.
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Message 1127528 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 13:55:51 UTC - in response to Message 1127473.
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... Yes, God put his name on the front page of the book. And yes, for some reason i'm currently the only one who can see this. But its not a magic trick or a figment of my imagination. ... the way i interpret the book. And trust me, ... At first, only mathematicians and scientists will understand why i'm right. But in time ...

... He is seeing "God" but he is twisting the story to see what he wants to see.

But here is the catch. Yes, the front cover of the book is debatable, and you could still say i'm wrong about the front page of the book. But page 2 of the book cannot be debated. Its the deal clincher here!! Page 2 of the book is 100% solid scientific evidence that cannot be debated. Then if i'm right ...

And no, God did not write the book in English. But i'm going to translate the book ...

Wow! Sounds like a rapturous resurrection there!

Page 2 is often the book publisher administrivia. Something special about the claimed publication dates? Arbitrary calendars involved?


Anything can be 'interpreted' or 'translated' in any way you like from any source material you like. There is the greater question of whether you can get closer to reality, or whether you describe some alternate reality, and whether any of all that is of any benefit.

I'm sure you can dream up something elaborate far beyond such as the Bible Code or any Cabala. Some people such as Ron Hubbard and others have made lots of money out of publishing their 'interpretations'.

Sorry, don't hope that any of us will follow your ideas. I'm sure we have our own realities.


Have you come across Buddhist ideas and their method for meditation to seek a better understanding of reality?...

Keep searchin',
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