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Message 1118228 - Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 11:09:27 UTC

If I cant upload/download work what's the point of running SETI@home? Seems I'm not the only person having problems.

A little feedback from Admin would be nice.

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Message 1118242 - Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 12:13:39 UTC - in response to Message 1118228.  

The point is that SETI@Home is not a 24/7 uptime project, and it probably never will be. Though I don't know why this little detail would be reason enough to quit if you're interested in the goal.

The results are not time sensitive. Its not like if you don't upload within a week the signal will disappear from the result you're trying to upload.
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Message 1119002 - Posted: 19 Jun 2011, 14:08:29 UTC

Hi, installed BOINC and am running. completed several workunits but when they get uploaded they disappear from my screen but there never is a credit showing up. Why? In the past I have been using the NT cmdline engine and it worked well. Why can't there by an easy way like this?
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Message 1119032 - Posted: 19 Jun 2011, 15:39:25 UTC - in response to Message 1119002.  

According to your account, 7 workunits have erred out so far and you have 4 workunits pending credit.

Credit is no longer granted immediately. The results are compared against the uploaded results of another user, referred to as a quorum partner or "wingman". If the results match closely enough, you get credit.

This process of comparing results ensures the work is scientifically accurate and prevents cheating. Many people from SETI Classic found ways to return the same result over and over again simply to inflate their credit score. This process prevents that practice.


Most people wouldn't consider the command line "easy". ;-)

You can actually run BOINC without the GUI. BOINC.EXE is the core client and supports plenty of switches that can control and manipulate it's workings. BOINCMGR.EXE is just the graphical front end to BOINC.EXE.

However, running just BOINC.EXE doesn't simply the process at all. BOINC is just the framework that controls all internet communications and workunit caching. The science application does all the mathematical work and writes the results to a file. You still have to go through the result comparing process I mentioned above.

By the way, since you are not having upload failures, you should have started your own thread. :-D
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Message 1119034 - Posted: 19 Jun 2011, 15:40:46 UTC - in response to Message 1119002.  

Jobluhm, you seem to have a few errors the first is..

ERR_RESULT_START -185

This is an error that will occur:
- if BOINC couldn't start the application
- if files are missing
- upon catch of other error returns
- on nonzero exit or signal
- if exceeded resource limit
- as catch-all for resume/start errors

Rebooting your machine will most of the times fix these.


this is the other
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?view=296&sessionID=73cff2186389216a4438788861508c66

You do seem to have 4 or 5 completed tasks waiting for your wingman to complete their work. So maybe you've overcome the problems


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Message 1119035 - Posted: 19 Jun 2011, 15:40:49 UTC - in response to Message 1119002.  
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Hi, installed BOINC and am running. completed several workunits but when they get uploaded they disappear from my screen but there never is a credit showing up. Why? In the past I have been using the NT cmdline engine and it worked well. Why can't there by an easy way like this?

The first 7 had computing errors. Of the other 4 returned, 3 are waiting for the other users that received them to send in their results to validate yours. 1 has been returned by the other user, but from posts on the Crunching forum it would seem that the server handling validation may be off line at this time. It may have to wait until tomorrow morning California time for the admins to reboot the system.

Edit: Unless they can fix it remotely.

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Message 1119418 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 16:25:52 UTC

Hi, there is a problem with the upload of the wu's. For a week he does not load anything from Seti @ home, no up / download, nothing. Other projects run smoothly. Where is the problem? The server are down?

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Message 1119430 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 16:45:32 UTC - in response to Message 1119418.  

Ja, zur Zeit ist der Upload-Server außer Funktion, aber nicht seit einer Woche!

Warte noch ein Bisschen, der Arbeitstag in Berkeley hat gerade erst begonnen. ;-)

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Message 1119455 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 18:56:17 UTC

Sorry about this folks but I'm starting to agree with the sentiment expressed in this post by Steven Szulecki. I've had 54 or 55 work units that have been trying
to upload since midnight last night and in that time I've been able to force two uploads to complete by doing project updates, do all network communications and waiting until I get a project back off for anywhere from a couple of minutes to almost 12 hours. The issue here isn't network connectivity or system horsepower or memory. 10+Mb pipe, Dual Quad Core Xeon processors and 8GB of memory. I keep getting a "Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site" and "Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.". Very frustrating and not word one about what is going on. Is it too much to ask for someone to step forward and say something like, "Yes, we are having some serious problems and here there are:" and give us an explanation? This doesn't eve touch on downloads. None in the past 14+ hours either. What's wrong, folks!!?
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Message 1119456 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 19:02:08 UTC - in response to Message 1119455.  

BOINC won't attempt to download new work until you are able to upload. That is newer to BOINC but common sense. Why have BOINC attempt Downloads when It can't send the work it has back to Seti


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Message 1119460 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 19:09:31 UTC - in response to Message 1119455.  


It looks like they corrected the Upload problems ~2 hours ago:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d

It may be still hard to Upload (as everyone's computers are trying now)
but at least the Upload have to be possible now.


 


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Message 1119925 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 8:33:23 UTC

Hi,

I still can't upload wu's. And my last contact with the server was a week ago? My internet connection is working, but I get no connection to the server! What is going on? @Gundolf deine Rechner hatten doch heute noch Kontakt oder?(your computer but still in contact or had?)

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Message 1119928 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 8:54:31 UTC - in response to Message 1119925.  

@Gundolf deine Rechner hatten doch heute noch Kontakt oder?

Jau, siehe meine Antwort in Why has the computed result been unable to upload? :-)

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Message 1119956 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 11:07:04 UTC - in response to Message 1119925.  


Which of your 4 Computers can't connect in a week?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=9487575

Is it ID: 5948404 ?

There were/are problems but they lasted for not more than a few hours (look the Weekly graph):
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets


 


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Message 1120155 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 20:33:48 UTC - in response to Message 1119956.  

thanks @all for the fast reply's. Now i am at work and hope i can upload as soon as possible!

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Message 1121399 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 7:19:32 UTC

There does seem to be some routing problems somewhere in Hurricane Electric's systems that is preventing a portion of users from contacting the SETI servers in Berkeley. Hurricane Electric is SETI@Home's private internet provider. This is nothing SETI can fix, nor is there something wrong with your client or computer.

Goodbye Seti Classic
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Message 1122606 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 5:07:53 UTC

and now? I have many wu's tu upload, but can't connect the server! It is realy frustrating? And for the points it would be a shame! We still have to wait and hope that the problem is fixed until the deadline of the wu's!
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Message 1122622 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 6:53:05 UTC - in response to Message 1122606.  

and now?

And now the upload server (along with all the splitters) is disabled, as you can easily see on the Server status page, which is currently even up to date. On the Cricket daily graph page, you can see when that probably occurred. And then there are Scarecrow's Server graphs.

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Message 1122665 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 11:56:59 UTC - in response to Message 1122606.  

And for the points it would be a shame! We still have to wait and hope that the problem is fixed until the deadline of the wu's!


And if the upload server is disabled as Gundolf said, then others won't be able to upload either, which means that you don't have to worry about your points.
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Message 1122906 - Posted: 30 Jun 2011, 4:36:19 UTC

The Problem lies at the network of the Seti servers.

There are some people who are not really smart and always first start to blame the users. This is normal for those who don't experience the problems others have.

I myself can't connect while still actually can connect.
Sounds weird huh? It isn't, if you continue reading.

My ISP is in Russia. From my ISP connected to the internet, I could always connect to Seti until a few weeks ago. It suddenly stopped. As if the servers weren't there. All my work. Gone, credits, gone, useless power thrown away, climate heated up extra, with nothing positive in a result.

So the question for me:
1) suddenly my network not ok?
2) suddenly route of my ISP not ok?
3) servers of seti not ok?
4) network of Seti not ok?


SO I started to chase things down.
first: get intel!

1) is my network not ok..
gather intel..
other computers from complete other networks report the same issues. It's not just me. so, although my network might have a problem on it's own(might!) this problem seems not to be related to it, since I'm not alone with it

2) route ISP not ok?
same counts as above, it seems even people in different countries experience the issues
3) Seti servers not ok?
well they, at seti, say everthing is fine, so that can't be it
4) last option, this has to be it..since all others are not the reason..
ok, let's go check..
login to my VPN network in germany.. hey suddenly I can connect to Seti
login to the VPN in the netherlands.. hey, works..
ok, use proxies to connect..
first check all proxies which are actually up and running and able to open up
any internet page to be sure we only check up and running..
interesting, of those which are up and alive, some can connect to seti, some not.

so the result:
indeed, seti own home network or their ISP seems to have a problem for at least a few weeks, causing some people not able to connect at all (depending on which IP range/ISP they come from) while others can connect without a hassle..

since proxies are a bad solution(they keep resetting IP's all the time)
and VPN is not an option (You're either on fulltunnel and loose your own home network, or not fulltunnel, but then the internet is still handled over your own ISP)
there is no other option then to ask seti to fix this after weeks, fix something which should have taken me less then 1 hour to fix..

but hey, seti are the professionals! ROFL
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