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Message 1122509 - Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 22:00:19 UTC
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THX for the new apps,

CPU-apps work fine, but all my ati-apps fail immediate.

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<core_client_version>6.12.33</core_client_version>
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- exit code -1073741515 (0xc0000135)
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Edit: I've installed the version for HD5xxx cards

does not say much, MW and Collatz run both fine. Any ideas?
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Message 1122597 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 4:34:12 UTC
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After completing about 5500 tasks, I got one down-clock after the folowing task:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1964766177

Had to re-boot to re-apply the overclock.

Only other observation is that my DCF has stayed in the 1.2-1.3 range since using the 0.38 binaries.
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Message 1122628 - Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 7:32:19 UTC - in response to Message 1122509.  

THX for the new apps,

CPU-apps work fine, but all my ati-apps fail immediate.

Stderr output

<core_client_version>6.12.33</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -1073741515 (0xc0000135)
</message>
]]>

Edit: I've installed the version for HD5xxx cards

does not say much, MW and Collatz run both fine. Any ideas?


The error code doesn´t say much.

"The application failed to initialize properly"


I´d suggest a clean install of the drivers.



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Message 1127164 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 11:02:51 UTC
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I am crunching for quiet some time but just on a low level. I am not very much into this stuff.
I am still running an old version of Seti Enhanced from Crunch3r on a 32bit System with NVIDIA Graphic card but do not have a GPU.
As I had to modify the app_info, would it be possible for me to switch to lunatics by simply running the 'Windows Installer v0.38 32 bit'? Or should I select an older version?

The old Crunch3r app did not run Astropule tasks. Is Astropuls included when I use the installer?
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Message 1127186 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 13:35:02 UTC

Sure, you can use the installer but in your task list i see you already have a lunatics app installed.

I´d suggest to run GPUz to see what extensions your CPU supports.

Then run installer to choose wich apps you want to install.
Second page is useless for you since you have no usable GPU installed.

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Message 1127189 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 13:38:51 UTC - in response to Message 1127164.  

I am crunching for quiet some time but just on a low level. I am not very much into this stuff.
I am still running an old version of Seti Enhanced from Crunch3r on a 32bit System with NVIDIA Graphic card but do not have a GPU.
As I had to modify the app_info, would it be possible for me to switch to lunatics by simply running the 'Windows Installer v0.38 32 bit'? Or should I select an older version?

The old Crunch3r app did not run Astropule tasks. Is Astropuls included when I use the installer?


The 0.38 installer has Multibeam apps for CPU, Nvidia Cuda, and ATI OpenCL, and Astropulse apps for CPU, ATI OpenCL (for HD4*** and later) and ATI Brook+ (For HD3*** and earlier)

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Message 1127206 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 14:47:42 UTC - in response to Message 1127189.  

And as we have noticed if you are running an onboard gpu its most likely a rebranded lesser GPU(ie 4250 is really a 3XXX) so ask for help if you attempt to install for one of those


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Message 1127213 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 15:10:24 UTC

Thanks to everydody.
I will check it out.
If it works it will maybe give me a little bit tailwind or at least a slight breeze.
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Message 1127220 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 15:22:03 UTC - in response to Message 1127213.  

Thanks to everydody.
I will check it out.
If it works it will maybe give me a little bit tailwind or at least a slight breeze.

You need to check first what setiathome_enhanced version number is being displayed in BOINC Manager. With an application (and hence an app_info.xml file) as old as that, it's possible that your cached tasks are flagged as something like v5.28

The new installer will preserve any cached tasks branded v6.03, but will discard any other brandings (for CPU work). If BOINC Manager shows you anything except 6.03, set 'No new tasks' and run down your cache before upgrading.
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Message 1127487 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 8:22:08 UTC - in response to Message 1127220.  


You need to check first what setiathome_enhanced version number is being displayed in BOINC Manager. With an application (and hence an app_info.xml file) as old as that, it's possible that your cached tasks are flagged as something like v5.28

The new installer will preserve any cached tasks branded v6.03, but will discard any other brandings (for CPU work). If BOINC Manager shows you anything except 6.03, set 'No new tasks' and run down your cache before upgrading.


Richard,
Thanks for that. You are right. They are branded v5.28
I already have blocked new work. It will take me some time to run dry.
Do you think the update will improve my speed (even a little bit)with a Core 2 Duo CPU E8400@3.00GHz and no GPU?
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Message 1127492 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 8:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 1127487.  

You need to check first what setiathome_enhanced version number is being displayed in BOINC Manager. With an application (and hence an app_info.xml file) as old as that, it's possible that your cached tasks are flagged as something like v5.28

The new installer will preserve any cached tasks branded v6.03, but will discard any other brandings (for CPU work). If BOINC Manager shows you anything except 6.03, set 'No new tasks' and run down your cache before upgrading.


Richard,
Thanks for that. You are right. They are branded v5.28
I already have blocked new work. It will take me some time to run dry.
Do you think the update will improve my speed (even a little bit)with a Core 2 Duo CPU E8400@3.00GHz and no GPU?

Actually, there won't be much difference (if any) between your current built 41 and the build 76 for CPU work in the installer. You're probably as well off just leaving things alone this time round.

BUT, we're expecting a new 'Version 7' of seti@home in the next few months - no release date even pencilled in yet. That one will definitely be a 'required upgrade', so keep watching this space.
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Message 1127769 - Posted: 15 Jul 2011, 7:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 1127492.  

I will do. Thanks again for your perfect support.

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Message 1127772 - Posted: 15 Jul 2011, 7:43:58 UTC - in response to Message 1127492.  


BUT, we're expecting a new 'Version 7' of seti@home in the next few months - no release date even pencilled in yet. That one will definitely be a 'required upgrade', so keep watching this space.

Actually, Pond Grass Shrimp posted maybe a year off for Boinc ver.7....
Or is that not the same thing as Seti ver.7?
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Message 1127774 - Posted: 15 Jul 2011, 7:53:38 UTC - in response to Message 1127772.  

Indeed, it's not the same. ;-)

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Message 1127777 - Posted: 15 Jul 2011, 7:56:32 UTC - in response to Message 1127774.  

Indeed, it's not the same. ;-)

Gruß,
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OK....
The ol' kittyman gets confused sometimes.
Boinc=Boinc.
Seti=Seti.......
Boinc+Seti=crunching.

Got it.
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Message 1127897 - Posted: 15 Jul 2011, 16:05:22 UTC - in response to Message 1127777.  

The 6.13.x builds of BOINC are the alpha's of what will become the 7.x.x builds.

SETI beta is running the beta test of v7.

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Message 1128863 - Posted: 17 Jul 2011, 18:45:48 UTC

Please add an option to the unified installer so I can select the number of GPU tasks and CPU cores that I want to run at a time. This would be much cleaner than editing the file after the fact.

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Number of GPU work units to run: 3
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Message 1128985 - Posted: 17 Jul 2011, 22:14:23 UTC


I dont think this will happen.



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Message 1128990 - Posted: 17 Jul 2011, 22:21:59 UTC - in response to Message 1128863.  

As Mike said, I don't think this will happen. The idea is to make the installers as easy to use as possible so most anyone can use them. Adding extra options like that would probably confuse the novice user.


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Message 1128996 - Posted: 17 Jul 2011, 22:41:03 UTC - in response to Message 1128990.  

As Mike said, I don't think this will happen. The idea is to make the installers as easy to use as possible so most anyone can use them. Adding extra options like that would probably confuse the novice user.


For the installer, 'probably not' but that's out of my hands now.

Probably for application specific tweaks at some point a pretty little control console of some sort will be devised for optional install, with all manner of tweakables... It's pretty low on the priority list at this time, and ideas need to mature, but will probably happen eventually. As apps become more sophisticated there will be something better (i.e. safer) needed than manual editing of configuration files, even if only for intermediate level users.

The 560ti's situation comes down to a high potential for voltage, clockrate & temperature issues from novice users, so at the moment I'm brainstorming more in the the direction of sensing issues to offer some sortof limited guidance. nVidia's nvapi library seems promising so far for control, and research is indicating that some level of supervisory monitoring with evasive measures could be employed.

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