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perryjay Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 14,898,018 RAC: 11,996	Message 1117570 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 0:18:21 UTC - in response to Message 1117567. Last modified: 16 Jun 2011, 0:22:05 UTC
	Yep, looks like the cricket graph took a nosedive. Nothing showing on the server status page yet but it looks like trouble. Looks like you last contacted last night at 23:40 UTC last night. Been a lot of heavy hitting on the servers today, could have something to do with it. ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5694 Credit: 56,306,315 RAC: 48,816	Message 1117750 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 7:21:51 UTC - in response to Message 1117406. Last modified: 16 Jun 2011, 7:22:30 UTC
	I would have thought that Matt and the rest of the project staff KNEW they were sending out nothing but shorties. Guess not! Of course we know shorties are a major problem, but some other numbers just aren't adding up... Which numbers? On an average Work Unit, my GTX460 does 1 Work Unit every 11 minutes or so & with the shorties, it's knocking out 1 every 3 minutes. The CPU usually does 1 every 15 minutes, with the shorties it's doing 1 every 4 minutes. So instead of doing almost 10 per hour, my system alone ends up doing 35 per hour. That's a big jump in load. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 3579 Credit: 362,286 RAC: 197	Message 1117752 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 7:28:31 UTC - in response to Message 1117548. Last modified: 16 Jun 2011, 7:29:06 UTC
	Very far off topic. And the plural of virus is viruses. And Windows is spelled with a "ows" much like Linux isn't spelled with an "s" as in Linsux. And I don't think that people are pissed off with Windows because its not free. People don't write viruses for Linux because its not worth the small user base to put the amount of effort into breaking it. The plural of virus is virii, like the plural of forum is fora. This at least in Latin, the language used also by Isaac Newton. Tullio ____________
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 8375 Credit: 46,666,900 RAC: 18,506	Message 1117766 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 9:22:57 UTC - in response to Message 1117752.
	Very far off topic. And the plural of virus is viruses. And Windows is spelled with a "ows" much like Linux isn't spelled with an "s" as in Linsux. And I don't think that people are pissed off with Windows because its not free. People don't write viruses for Linux because its not worth the small user base to put the amount of effort into breaking it. The plural of virus is virii, like the plural of forum is fora. This at least in Latin, the language used also by Isaac Newton. Tullio Is there a difference between the computer and the biological spellings? Like a theatre program is a programme, but a computer programme is a program?
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Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 356,780 RAC: 13	Message 1117769 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 9:54:40 UTC - in response to Message 1117752.
	The plural of virus is virii, like the plural of forum is fora. This at least in Latin, the language used also by Isaac Newton. Tullio I think, the plural of virus is viri, but with a long 'i', as opposed to the genitive/plural of 'vir'. ;-) Gruß, Gundolf PS: And yes, I did learn latin in school, but that's been about forty years ago.
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 3579 Credit: 362,286 RAC: 197	Message 1117774 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 10:17:40 UTC - in response to Message 1117769.
	I think, the plural of virus is viri, but with a long 'i', as opposed to the genitive/plural of 'vir'. ;-) Gruß, Gundolf PS: And yes, I did learn latin in school, but that's been about forty years ago. You're right. I was dubious about the second 'i'. My Latin is sixty years old, but I still remember something: Eheu fugaces Postume Postume labuntur anni Nec pietas moram rugis et instanti senectae Afferet indomitaeque morti. Cheers,Tullio ____________
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 13541 Credit: 29,361,001 RAC: 15,917	Message 1117794 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 11:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 1117752. Last modified: 16 Jun 2011, 12:05:13 UTC
	Very far off topic. And the plural of virus is viruses. And Windows is spelled with a "ows" much like Linux isn't spelled with an "s" as in Linsux. And I don't think that people are pissed off with Windows because its not free. People don't write viruses for Linux because its not worth the small user base to put the amount of effort into breaking it. The plural of virus is virii, like the plural of forum is fora. This at least in Latin, the language used also by Isaac Newton. Tullio When talking about computer viruses, according to Wikipedia, the word is not used in its Latin form. I understand that Wikipedia not always the best source, but nearly everywhere else I can find states that the plural of virus is not viri or virii, but viruses when referring to the computer program.
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Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3330 Credit: 1,965,028 RAC: 2,153	Message 1117798 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 12:06:02 UTC - in response to Message 1117794.
	Common North American usage has the Latin plural used for original (usually biological) usage, and modern "add an s" for non-original usage. For example, a bug has two antennae, but an airplane would have two antennas. So a sick person could have two virii (or viri), a sick computer could have two viruses. Either case would suck. ____________
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KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 1897 Credit: 9,157,930 RAC: 11,698	Message 1117928 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 16:34:00 UTC - in response to Message 1117548. Last modified: 16 Jun 2011, 16:36:22 UTC
	[snip] But of course not! They're running nix which eradicated* viruses long ago, when the Earth was still cooling. nix is not immune to virii, but few people write viruses for nix as the damage would be limited - and not as many people are P----d off at Linix or Unix due to them being almost free of cost, as opposed to M$ Windoze... but we're getting off topic... Very far off topic. And the plural of virus is viruses. And Windows is spelled with a "ows" much like Linux isn't spelled with an "s" as in Linsux. And I don't think that people are pissed off with Windows because its not free. People don't write viruses for Linux because its not worth the small user base to put the amount of effort into breaking it. OK, so I was off by an "I" with "Virii"... but the "Windoze" was done deliberately, for effect... The part in bold was my point! ____________ .
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 13541 Credit: 29,361,001 RAC: 15,917	Message 1117936 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 16:51:01 UTC - in response to Message 1117928.
	but the "Windoze" was done deliberately, for effect... Yes, I know why people purposefully misspell Windows. I think its childish personally. Which is why I threw in Linsux, in an attempt to show how childish it is.
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Twisted Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 81 Credit: 1,825,037 RAC: 1,850	Message 1117980 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 17:53:31 UTC
	People don't write viruses for linux because it actually takes skill, labor, and work. People write viruses for windows because it's easy and has a larger impact, either because the inherent vulnerabilities in the OS (read crap programming) or the patches not being applied by the average user. Anyone ever looked into stats of servers being hacked and how many are MS vs Linux? Might be interesting...might get MS goons on your doorstep too... ____________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 3579 Credit: 362,286 RAC: 197	Message 1117999 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 18:20:19 UTC
	Most of the world supercomputers run Linux. Look at the top500 list. It should be updated soon in Hamburg. Tullio ____________
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 13541 Credit: 29,361,001 RAC: 15,917	Message 1118016 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 18:52:08 UTC - in response to Message 1117980.
	Why are we carrying Matt's request for help so far off topic? I'll admit I made an off-color comment as a joke, but do we really need to carry our OS wars into Matt's thread? Mark Sattler suggested that it was a virus and I was, in my own funny way (and as in inside joke between ML1 and I), trying to say that it was unlikely. I'm fully aware that MS OSes are hacked more than any other OS, and I'm fully aware that it is due to poor programing, to put it nicely. Though I don't know why MS's "goons" would come after me for this knowledge.
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Cheopis Send message Joined: 17 Sep 00 Posts: 139 Credit: 10,606,502 RAC: 9,567	Message 1118017 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 18:53:30 UTC - in response to Message 1117980.
	Most virus writers write viruses for Windows because most people use Windows. Viruses go to where the money is. Just like any other criminal activity. Some people out there might write viruses in a petty vendetta against Microsoft, but most of them write viruses to make money. Good viruses written by ventetta writers are reverse engineered by money-interested writers, and turned into moneymakers. Now that the Apple OS is on more than 15% of computers, the virus writers are starting to write for them too. As recent news will prove. If I'm not mistaken, ix/ux is close to Apple OSes in a lot of ways, so if you are on ix/ux/OSx it might be good to stop being complacent and start thinking security.
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 12116 Credit: 6,403,975 RAC: 8,150	Message 1118033 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 20:01:21 UTC - in response to Message 1118017.
	If I'm not mistaken, ix/ux is close to Apple OSes in a lot of ways, so if you are on ix/ux/OSx it might be good to stop being complacent and start thinking security. Close?! Apple's OS X is Unix(R). ____________
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zoom314 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 45782 Credit: 36,407,930 RAC: 7,494	Message 1118038 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 20:16:26 UTC - in response to Message 1117156. Last modified: 16 Jun 2011, 20:18:14 UTC
	Break a leg! Or is that only for actors? I've done that, It's no picnic, But yeah I think It's mainly for actors. But wishing Matt Good Luck is alright. ____________
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Twisted Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 81 Credit: 1,825,037 RAC: 1,850	Message 1118048 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 20:42:15 UTC - in response to Message 1118033.
	If I'm not mistaken, ix/ux is close to Apple OSes in a lot of ways, so if you are on ix/ux/OSx it might be good to stop being complacent and start thinking security. Close?! Apple's OS X is Unix(R). Since when, Last I read it was based on Darwin Linux...been a couple of years. But when I quit using one it was based on Darwin 5 IIRC ____________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
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B-Man Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Feb 01 Posts: 253 Credit: 147,366 RAC: 0	Message 1118074 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 21:51:44 UTC - in response to Message 1118048. Last modified: 16 Jun 2011, 21:57:19 UTC
	If I'm not mistaken, ix/ux is close to Apple OSes in a lot of ways, so if you are on ix/ux/OSx it might be good to stop being complacent and start thinking security. Close?! Apple's OS X is Unix(R). Since when, Last I read it was based on Darwin Linux...been a couple of years. But when I quit using one it was based on Darwin 5 IIRC Darwin is based of BSD+ Mach Kernel. Darwin is not Linux but is a nix. The Unix(R) is a marketing term given out to nix that pass a specific set of test administered by a testing body with the rights to the name Unix. Supposedly it costs around $100,000 dollars and meeting the specs/tests to be able to call yourself a Unix(R). OSX server has been a Unix (R) since 10.5 and all versions I believe since 10.6. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) ____________
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Jeff Mercer Send message Joined: 14 Aug 08 Posts: 90 Credit: 162,139 RAC: 0	Message 1118087 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 22:40:56 UTC
	Just noticed that UPLOADS are not working. Don't know if it's me, or if there is a problem in the lab.
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Lois Petrolito Send message Joined: 15 May 11 Posts: 4 Credit: 79,762 RAC: 4	Message 1118092 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 22:53:16 UTC - in response to Message 1118087. Last modified: 16 Jun 2011, 22:59:23 UTC
	Not just you(mine aren't going either).....just checked, and the upload server has been labeled as "Disabled". SETI@Home is in the midst of the weekly backup/outage schedule, so I wouldn't be surprised if nothing goes back until sometime Friday.
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