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Message 1114271 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 14:27:22 UTC - in response to Message 1114249.
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Unless I am doing something wrong, I cannot get the coordinates to appear on Google Mars. EDIT: Nevermind. I got it. And no...it's not near any known landers, crafts, rovers or etc. It is literally alone in the middle of no where.


They probably when out picking up trash from previous missions while they are stationed on the secret manned mission to mars. Supplies I assume are limited.

Back to looking for Primes.....and I just got this new graphics card.... : /

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Message 1114304 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 15:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 1114271.
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I'm sorry but I have to say that this is silly. Please go to the JPL site. Look up pictures of the Mars rovers from the mars surveyor satelite. You'll see tracks and a clear picture of a small rover. If this rover is about 10 feet and is clearly seem then the object has to be tiny to be that pixilated. I'd bet its just another small rock formation.

lets also take a look at the location 49' north. on earth that would be in southern canada. This is an unlikely place to put a "colony". It would be really cold on earth and freaking cold on Mars. Lets also not forget that we'd have to rely on Solar power which is substantially less on mars and by far less that far north. Remember the Phoenix probe died because it wasn't able to collect solar power. So you're looking at an uninhabital zone on Mars. Lets not forget that the Mars rovers landed near the Equator and still have trouble staying alive during the winters.

Just plain silly.
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Message 1114310 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 15:31:11 UTC - in response to Message 1114304.

I'm sorry but I have to say that this is silly. Please go to the JPL site. Look up pictures of the Mars rovers from the mars surveyor satelite. You'll see tracks and a clear picture of a small rover. If this rover is about 10 feet and is clearly seem then the object has to be tiny to be that pixilated. I'd bet its just another small rock formation.

lets also take a look at the location 49' north. on earth that would be in southern canada. This is an unlikely place to put a "colony". It would be really cold on earth and freaking cold on Mars. Lets also not forget that we'd have to rely on Solar power which is substantially less on mars and by far less that far north. Remember the Phoenix probe died because it wasn't able to collect solar power. So you're looking at an uninhabital zone on Mars. Lets not forget that the Mars rovers landed near the Equator and still have trouble staying alive during the winters.

Just plain silly.


If this is a structure, who said it was made by humans or that it was put there by us? Mars was a very different place millions of years ago. This could be something ancient, not recent. And people do live in Southern Canada.

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Message 1114448 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 3:26:15 UTC
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Wow. This is the big one! The darn US government covering stuff up again. This time those swines built a base on Mars and never told anyone!

Least now we know what the US have been spending their black budget on :) Darn swines!!

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Message 1114460 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 4:30:35 UTC - in response to Message 1114448.

Wow. This is the big one! The darn US government covering stuff up again. This time those swines built a base on Mars and never told anyone!

Least now we know what the US have been spending their black budget on :) Darn swines!!

John.

That must be where they filmed the fake moon landings!!!

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Message 1114467 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 5:15:21 UTC - in response to Message 1114460.

You tube videos were removed. My son did some checking today on this subject.
Bet NASA made him remove it. I smell a cover-up, big time.

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Message 1114500 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 9:19:37 UTC - in response to Message 1114467.
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Hey,

I think I saw gondolas in the canals !! The picture is a little fuzzy though !!

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Message 1114527 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 11:51:37 UTC - in response to Message 1114467.

Bet NASA made him remove it. I smell a cover-up, big time.


It's this kind of conjecture that starts conspiracies.

Is it not equally as possible that someone contacted him and told him what it really was and he felt so stupid that he removed it?

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Message 1114757 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 18:51:25 UTC - in response to Message 1114527.

Bet NASA made him remove it. I smell a cover-up, big time.


It's this kind of conjecture that starts conspiracies.

Is it not equally as possible that someone contacted him and told him what it really was and he felt so stupid that he removed it?


Based on the guy's history on Above Top Secret (i contribute there often) I doubt he would have removed it based on that assumption.
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Message 1114777 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 19:43:30 UTC - in response to Message 1114757.

Bet NASA made him remove it. I smell a cover-up, big time.


It's this kind of conjecture that starts conspiracies.

Is it not equally as possible that someone contacted him and told him what it really was and he felt so stupid that he removed it?


Based on the guy's history on Above Top Secret (i contribute there often) I doubt he would have removed it based on that assumption.


Without a response from him, it's still a valid assumption.

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Message 1114890 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 2:34:24 UTC - in response to Message 1114777.

Bet NASA made him remove it. I smell a cover-up, big time.


It's this kind of conjecture that starts conspiracies.

Is it not equally as possible that someone contacted him and told him what it really was and he felt so stupid that he removed it?


Based on the guy's history on Above Top Secret (i contribute there often) I doubt he would have removed it based on that assumption.


Without a response from him, it's still a valid assumption.


That's the problem...he often posts his claims there, then just vanishes. On a side note, his account on YouTube was also deleted when the video was.
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Message 1114897 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 3:13:30 UTC - in response to Message 1114890.

And of course it has to be the work of the government trying to shut him up. No other explanation at all.

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Message 1114903 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 3:29:26 UTC - in response to Message 1114897.
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And of course it has to be the work of the government trying to shut him up. No other explanation at all.


LOL...I never said that, but it is a possibility, however remote. There are some weird things that images from the shuttles and other craft that cannot just be explained away. But is this one of them? Not likely. If anything its more than likely that he did this to create the look or appearance that the government or some government entity did it. I would not put it past him to fuel the fire.

Take this video for example: One that amazes me every time I see it. Hard to explain away, but the incident just happened to be caught by someone who had managed to get an uplink of the space shuttle satellite feed, something that NASA has stopped doing since the late 90s: UFO: NASA's unexplained tether overload incident
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Message 1114909 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 3:53:50 UTC - in response to Message 1114903.

Sure seems like the more intelligent commenters in the postings have explained it away quite successfully. Those objects are indeed not behind the tether. I've seen similar objects when looking through a high powered lens in a microscope.

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Message 1114942 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 6:21:34 UTC - in response to Message 1114909.
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Sure seems like the more intelligent commenters in the postings have explained it away quite successfully. Those objects are indeed not behind the tether. I've seen similar objects when looking through a high powered lens in a microscope.


You can clearly see the objects pass behind the tether. it is quite clear in much of the footage. You can clearly see the tether, which is several miles away and I don't recall how many feet, but it is on Wikipedia. It is 100% inexplicable that it is behind the tether at some parts of the video. You can say it's not all you want, but watch it closely and you can see the tether VS the objects.




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From STS-75: STS-75 mission scientist hoped to deploy the tether to a distance of 20.7 kilometres (12.9 mi). Over 19 kilometers of the tether were deployed before the tether broke. It remained in orbit for a number of weeks and was easily visible from the ground, appearing something like a small but surprisingly bright fluorescent light traveling through the sky.

over 19 kilometers (11.8 miles roughly) of tether was deployed. How could some of those objects not be behind it when it was so long? That means at time the tether was a few kilometers away at least.
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Message 1115005 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 11:56:11 UTC - in response to Message 1114942.

You can clearly see the objects pass behind the tether. it is quite clear in much of the footage. You can clearly see the tether, which is several miles away and I don't recall how many feet, but it is on Wikipedia. It is 100% inexplicable that it is behind the tether at some parts of the video. You can say it's not all you want, but watch it closely and you can see the tether VS the objects.

From STS-75: STS-75 mission scientist hoped to deploy the tether to a distance of 20.7 kilometres (12.9 mi). Over 19 kilometers of the tether were deployed before the tether broke. It remained in orbit for a number of weeks and was easily visible from the ground, appearing something like a small but surprisingly bright fluorescent light traveling through the sky.

over 19 kilometers (11.8 miles roughly) of tether was deployed. How could some of those objects not be behind it when it was so long? That means at time the tether was a few kilometers away at least.


Optical illusion followed by a weak point of reference. I take it you've never seen the magic card trick which tricks your mind into thinking one card is in front of the other when in fact it's not?

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Message 1115009 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 12:09:24 UTC - in response to Message 1115005.
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how exactly did that tether get so wide. That looks like someone cropped in a video of a hair and brownian movement on a microscope slide. notice the irratice movement and random direction change of the objects. Also not the light bleeding into the focus on the bottom of the image. If thats the earth its taken a shape completely inverted to its normal spherical shape.
Wheres the damned sphere. all I see is a straight line. and the fake overplay of supposed crew.
I really don't like the chopped section where the tether is quite obviously clear to see and the wire is coiled. then suddenly the video changes...hmmm suddenly you can see other objects in the suns glare that we obviously blanked out by that glare. this is once again a poor attempt at a UFO siting.
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Message 1115139 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 17:49:26 UTC - in response to Message 1115009.
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how exactly did that tether get so wide. That looks like someone cropped in a video of a hair and brownian movement on a microscope slide. notice the irratice movement and random direction change of the objects. Also not the light bleeding into the focus on the bottom of the image. If thats the earth its taken a shape completely inverted to its normal spherical shape.
Wheres the damned sphere. all I see is a straight line. and the fake overplay of supposed crew.
I really don't like the chopped section where the tether is quite obviously clear to see and the wire is coiled. then suddenly the video changes...hmmm suddenly you can see other objects in the suns glare that we obviously blanked out by that glare. this is once again a poor attempt at a UFO siting.


Did you even watch the video? This is from an official NASA TV video. The only thing that was cropped or taken out was screenshots of the footage itself. I doctored nothing in those images. Of course it would have straightend out. It was still being deployed when it broke. Gravity would have pulled it to full length if not close to it i would imagine. The astronauts even talk about the objects. At full deployment, the tether would have been just over 20km long (12 miles). As to how wide it is, there will need to be math done for that.
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Message 1115140 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 17:51:30 UTC - in response to Message 1115005.
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You can clearly see the objects pass behind the tether. it is quite clear in much of the footage. You can clearly see the tether, which is several miles away and I don't recall how many feet, but it is on Wikipedia. It is 100% inexplicable that it is behind the tether at some parts of the video. You can say it's not all you want, but watch it closely and you can see the tether VS the objects.

From STS-75: STS-75 mission scientist hoped to deploy the tether to a distance of 20.7 kilometres (12.9 mi). Over 19 kilometers of the tether were deployed before the tether broke. It remained in orbit for a number of weeks and was easily visible from the ground, appearing something like a small but surprisingly bright fluorescent light traveling through the sky.

over 19 kilometers (11.8 miles roughly) of tether was deployed. How could some of those objects not be behind it when it was so long? That means at time the tether was a few kilometers away at least.


Optical illusion followed by a weak point of reference. I take it you've never seen the magic card trick which tricks your mind into thinking one card is in front of the other when in fact it's not?


Uh...my mind says, and it also shows clearly that the objects pass both in front of and behind the tether. This thing is huge. At full length, about 12 miles long. So lets just say it is an illusion. These things, debris, UFOs or whatever you want to call them, are also quite large. The fact that the astronauts even discuss them is quite amazing in itself.

So lets talk about the objects? their shapes are quite clear. The number of them are also quite clear. So how big are they and what are they? Why do some of them appear to flash? If this is a trick, then its a very good one.
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Message 1115180 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 19:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 1115139.

how exactly did that tether get so wide. That looks like someone cropped in a video of a hair and brownian movement on a microscope slide. notice the irratice movement and random direction change of the objects. Also not the light bleeding into the focus on the bottom of the image. If thats the earth its taken a shape completely inverted to its normal spherical shape.
Wheres the damned sphere. all I see is a straight line. and the fake overplay of supposed crew.
I really don't like the chopped section where the tether is quite obviously clear to see and the wire is coiled. then suddenly the video changes...hmmm suddenly you can see other objects in the suns glare that we obviously blanked out by that glare. this is once again a poor attempt at a UFO siting.


Did you even watch the video? This is from an official NASA TV video. The only thing that was cropped or taken out was screenshots of the footage itself. I doctored nothing in those images. Of course it would have straightend out. It was still being deployed when it broke. Gravity would have pulled it to full length if not close to it i would imagine. The astronauts even talk about the objects. At full deployment, the tether would have been just over 20km long (12 miles). As to how wide it is, there will need to be math done for that.


Yes I watched. The video stops at one point and begins again with the microscope slide look. Please explain how the NASA communication sounds like the moon landing audio when we clearly have better communications equipment now. I specifically recall hearing astronauts speak without the massive static. It seems to me someone did a crappy job of editting that video with a microscope slide video. Heck I bet I could do something similar with water and an out of focus lens. Lets not forget then individual couldnt focus on the " tether. When He focused everything went in and out of focus. that leads me to believe that isn't from space. Also the black bacground and small white light is just a microscope with the apeture closed to its smallest size and slightly off center to the lens. If anything the Apeture needs alignment. a very crappy hoax. Of course we haven't heard diddly from NASA but we have a video on youtube. I'd like to see NASA's uneditted video, please!
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