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Message 1111604 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 2:47:43 UTC

Ok, so after some time I came back to this. I had honestly forgotten all about BOINC until recently. In any case, I'm on my laptop which ja just over 9GB of free disk space so why might I be seeing the following ?



Also, someone along time ago mentioned a project that was like SeTI@Home called Planet Quest, I cant seem to find it in Boincs add projects page. Any one know where I can check it out and maybe add it ?

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Message 1111605 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 2:48:51 UTC - in response to Message 1111604.  

Ps: I'm posting here because I can't seem to post any where else due to not having anything other that classic WU's / Credits.
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Message 1111618 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 3:40:33 UTC - in response to Message 1111604.  

Where are your preferences set: online or local?


Wherever they are set, you need to check what your disk space settings are. If you use online preferences, what are the values for X under Disk and Memory Usage, specifically:

Disk: Use at most: X
Disk: Leave free at least: X
Disk: Use at most: X% of total


You can find your online preferences here.
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Message 1111619 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 3:41:20 UTC - in response to Message 1111604.  

Ok, so after some time I came back to this. I had honestly forgotten all about BOINC until recently. In any case, I'm on my laptop which ja just over 9GB of free disk space so why might I be seeing the following ?



Also, someone along time ago mentioned a project that was like SeTI@Home called Planet Quest, I cant seem to find it in Boincs add projects page. Any one know where I can check it out and maybe add it ?

Thx !


What it means is you have a setting either in Computing Preferences or in the Manager under Tools - Computing Preferences - Disk & Memory Usage set to allow no space for BOINC to use.

You need to allow at least 1GB or so.

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Message 1111625 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 3:55:18 UTC - in response to Message 1111618.  

Where are your preferences set: online or local?


Wherever they are set, you need to check what your disk space settings are. If you use online preferences, what are the values for X under Disk and Memory Usage, specifically:

Disk: Use at most: X
Disk: Leave free at least: X
Disk: Use at most: X% of total


You can find your online preferences here.


Copy and paste of all three disk options from my srttings page.

Disk: use at most 50 GB
Disk: leave free at least
Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored 10 GB
Disk: use at most 75% of total

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Message 1111662 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 6:54:27 UTC - in response to Message 1111625.  
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I think I just realized the issue LOL.

Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 10 GB disk space free

So effectively none of that will work since I have 9 something gigs left.

Also, for the previously posted data... what do you guys keep all that at ?

Ps; What about Planet Quest ? All I can seem to find is a page for it but nothing on the Boinc aspect of it.
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Message 1111685 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 9:41:57 UTC - in response to Message 1111662.  
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SETI@home don't need much HDD space, you may use:

Disk: use at most 2 GB
Disk: leave free at least 1 GB


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlanetQuest

"PlanetQuest is a grid computing project for discovering new planets and classifying stars from Earth-based observatories' images.

The PlanetQuest project is currently still under development, and will utilize the BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing) platform.

Note: The PlanetQuest website has not been updated since 2006."


 


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Message 1111811 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 22:16:12 UTC - in response to Message 1111685.  

Thx for that and with the last update being 2006 I'm not sure we'll eer see PQ on BOINC.

As for SeTI / BOINC not needing much disk space, whats the largest amount of space you've ever heard of any BOINC projects using ?

One guy I talked to has a 1TB or 1.5TB (I forget) HDD which is used for nothing but BOINC... didn't really ask why.
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Message 1111839 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 23:24:28 UTC - in response to Message 1111811.  

One guy I talked to has a 1TB or 1.5TB (I forget) HDD which is used for nothing but BOINC... didn't really ask why.


He may be running every BOINC project out there or he just bought the HDD and stuck it in his crunching machine. I can't see him ever using all that space.


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Message 1111843 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 23:28:45 UTC
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Currently my Boinc data folder is 1.5G for 12 active projects. CPND is using about 550M, WCG 366M, Eintein 246M, Rosetta 146M. Those project only have 1 WU each on my system. Seti is using 111M for a one day of cache for GPU + an AP on the CPU.

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Message 1111846 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 23:38:45 UTC - in response to Message 1111843.  
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If a person did literally run every BOINC project out there and future ones relesaed AND kept 7 days of data via the one cross project setting how much space do you think would be used at any given time ?

Obviously this number would fluctuate depending on available data for DL etc.

Edit: This assumes the person is running both CPU & GPU tasks.
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Message 1113821 - Posted: 6 Jun 2011, 10:59:01 UTC - in response to Message 1111846.  
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"... AND kept 7 days of data ..."
7 days are not per project - this is total for all the projects.
And 7 days are calendar days, not "computing" days (e.g. if BOINC runs only 1 hour per day then "7 days of data" = "7 hours of data")

7 days work for slow computer may be just 1 MB SETI tasks (= 3 SETI tasks).
7 days work for fast computer (8 GPUs) will be 1000s of SETI tasks.

P.S.
Why do you type "SETI" as "SeTI"?
Is "SeTI" the "Search for Terrestrial Intelligence"? ;)


 


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Message 1116617 - Posted: 13 Jun 2011, 11:14:58 UTC - in response to Message 1111811.  

Thx for that and with the last update being 2006 I'm not sure we'll eer see PQ on BOINC.

As for SeTI / BOINC not needing much disk space, whats the largest amount of space you've ever heard of any BOINC projects using ?

One guy I talked to has a 1TB or 1.5TB (I forget) HDD which is used for nothing but BOINC... didn't really ask why.

The projects with the largest disk usage that I know about are around 1Gb / Task. With 64 processors going, and near the end of the task (with all 64 just about done, so 64 new ones downloaded) that would be 128GB... Note that CPDN (the one one that I know about with tasks this large) also runs for a month or so on the fastest CPU. I do not see that guy running anything like 10% full on that disk of his (yes, there is only one 0 in that number).


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Message 1116641 - Posted: 13 Jun 2011, 13:11:29 UTC - in response to Message 1116617.  
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The projects with the largest disk usage that I know about are around 1Gb / Task. With 64 processors going, and near the end of the task (with all 64 just about done, so 64 new ones downloaded) that would be 128GB...

Well, the tasks themselves weren't 1GB big, but while they ran they could take up that amount of memory and virtual memory. Which would mean in your example one needed at least 64GB of memory (unrelated to this) and allow BOINC (& most probably your OS?) to use at least 64GB of disk space for the virtual memory.

I think anyone running a 1.5TB drive would use it because those drives are relatively cheap these days. The cheapest 1.5TB drive I can find in my neck of the woods is €49.90. The cheapest 2Gb and still a brand (Samsung) is less than €57.50. The cheapest 1TB is €29.95

Considering the nearest SSD with 480GB costing €1,499.- ... eeehhh... ;-)
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Message 1126299 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 18:31:51 UTC
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Keep getting notices I need X MB...have ZERO MB available. But I checked & settings are fine. Can't get 'scheduler' to connect so it can 'update. Never had this problem before. Ok --UPDATE: have downloaded a number of new 'tasks', so that's ok.... Now I'll wait & see if I get any more of those NOTICES.
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