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Message 1112872 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 2:31:21 UTC - in response to Message 1112860.  
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And that old 233mmx I started with is still out in the garage somewhere.
Might be amusing to try to put it back together and see if would still boot.
Some day.

I still have my old Apple II+ and IIe out in the garage.
My Apple IIGS is still in service for old games and mailing lists. That was my first Seti Classic cruncher.

Seti Classic on an Apple IIGS? Doesn't that use a 6502 cpu? Folks that's I think slower than the slowest PC, An original IBM PC(4.77MHz).

Uses a 65C02. About 2Mhz IIRC. Max 128k RAM. And I don't remember Seti Classic being available for it. Not only that I don't remember it exactly being able to be put on the internet. But my memory could be foggy.


If I'm not mistaken, the minimum RAM requirements were much higher than 128k, which would make it impossible to run on such a system. If I remember correctly, 8MB of RAM was the minimum with the original "classic" client.

Actually the IIGS used the 65C816 cpu that ran at 2.8MHz(at least on the Apple version, the cpu could do 14MHz I've read), Faster than the old IIE at 1.03MHz, Which was slower than any Atari computer @ 1.79MHz NTSC[1.78MHz Pal/Secam](400, 800, 1200XL, 600XL, 800XL, 800XE, 65XE, 130XE or GM)...

Oh and Memory on the IIGS was expandable to 8.12MB of ram...
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Message 1112996 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 13:44:23 UTC - in response to Message 1112855.  

So far, of whom I've seen on this thread, phud, M5WJF, Mark, Jim_S, Carlos, Celt Tooth and KB7RZF are the only ones that've been 'crunching' longer than me (and have better equipment, I might add - hence their much higher RAC's and overall numbers than me); I also was an 'off-and-on' cruncher up till the last few years, mostly because I was without a 'puter for long periods.


I hope you don't include me with that illustrious bunch, I've had large breaks between crunching, which is reflected in my Credit and RAC, although both are climbing slowly now.

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Message 1113000 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 14:00:22 UTC

Ok, one thing that is puzzling me, how come I'm getting WU's 'ready to start' anyway?

I understand that some machines are faster than others and inside a 60 hour period between updates the software might periodically decide to load extra work ready for processing, but the process seems abitrary and unstructured.

Case in point, the OSX machine here appears to have 13 WU's 'ready to start', most estimated to take less than 30 minutes to process, and a couple which might take 1.5 hours (humour me here as I appear to be answering my own question), but the 'recent' Linux machines only have one WU 'ready to start'?

Just to complete the scene here, the 'recent' XP machine is still working on the first WU, which will likely take 100 hours and I do wonder what it will attract in credit, and the much older Linux machine appears to not attract any WU's that are 'ready to start'.

The answer may already be above, but if someone could elucidate I'm willing to read the response.

BTW the above are all laptops, I've yet to run the fibre to the garden shed where the towers and rack mounts live amongst the spiders.

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Message 1113002 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 14:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 1111850.  

I joined in 2002, but fell out of the program when I replaced that computer. Just came back in and everything has changed. Not that I am surprised.

No green icon

Now I have classic units and new BIONIC units

But it is all good. Crunching away again is a good thing.

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What was your first cruncher?


It was an HP tower, a Celeron something or other, I think. Then I went to the 900 MHz Pentium 3. When the hard drive failed it took my Seti stuff with it. when I replaced the drive I never got back on the Seti program.

I picked up this HP Slimline last Christmas. So now I am back in the saddle again with two cores crunching away at 85%, but on 24X7. Air coming out feel moderately warm, so I will leave it at this level.


Reading back on the look back in history makes me think over the 30 years I have been in technology sales.

I started with Lanier busienss Products selling Word processing systems when Apple II and CPM co-processor boards were the top systems in the corp offices. There were no IBM PCs and WordStart was one of the top WP systems. Visicalc was just coming into its own and Lotus 123 was not yet around.

Those were the good old days. A dedicated WP system was $12,000. And you needed a $3500 daisy wheel printer for output.

No e-mail, no networks. We are talking 1981.
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Message 1113012 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 14:20:05 UTC

First ever computer I ever used was a Research Machines 380Z, in school in early 1981, it arrived about 2 months before I left school, so there was no computing courses running until the next school year.

I was working on it during school lunch times in the Science Lab, and had to take a break from it to watch the first Space Shuttle Launch as STS-1 live on TV just after 1pm British Summer Time, 12th April 1981, within the School Science Lab. As I remember it, not many more people were in the Lab at the time.

Amazing what you remember you were doing at the time.

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Message 1113025 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 14:53:33 UTC - in response to Message 1113000.  

Ok, one thing that is puzzling me, how come I'm getting WU's 'ready to start' anyway?

I understand that some machines are faster than others and inside a 60 hour period between updates the software might periodically decide to load extra work ready for processing, but the process seems abitrary and unstructured.

Case in point, the OSX machine here appears to have 13 WU's 'ready to start', most estimated to take less than 30 minutes to process, and a couple which might take 1.5 hours (humour me here as I appear to be answering my own question), but the 'recent' Linux machines only have one WU 'ready to start'?

Just to complete the scene here, the 'recent' XP machine is still working on the first WU, which will likely take 100 hours and I do wonder what it will attract in credit, and the much older Linux machine appears to not attract any WU's that are 'ready to start'.

The answer may already be above, but if someone could elucidate I'm willing to read the response.

BTW the above are all laptops, I've yet to run the fibre to the garden shed where the towers and rack mounts live amongst the spiders.



Your computers are hidden so I can only guess. your XP machine is most likely running and astropulse. My old P4 used to take 100 hours to run one before I installed Lunatics op apps.
Your OSX (intel mac ) ? has dual cores so most likely you have two cores running and a small back up cache waiting to run.

I dont know a thing about Linux so cant answer that.
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Message 1113148 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 19:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 1112855.  

So far, of whom I've seen on this thread, phud, M5WJF, Mark, Jim_S, Carlos, Celt Tooth and KB7RZF are the only ones that've been 'crunching' longer than me (and have better equipment, I might add - hence their much higher RAC's and overall numbers than me); I also was an 'off-and-on' cruncher up till the last few years, mostly because I was without a 'puter for long periods.

I only started about 11 months before you. :-) But I also had periods of not crunching SETI. Right now, all I crunch with is a P4 2.8GHz w/HT, and an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.1GHz laptop. I've been running these for about 2-3 years. Don't know when I'll even upgrade, probably when one of these 2 machines die. But regardless, I just crunch for the sake of crunching. There's so many projects out there now, its hard to just pick one. My P4 crunches SETI and Freehal, while my laptop bounces between SETI and other projects that the team I'm on (BOINC Synergy) chooses for projects to crunch for a month, as well as Freehal. SETI will always be my #1 project.
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Message 1113151 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 20:11:14 UTC
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I just like PCs and crunching isn't a bad thing to do with the PC as It allows Me to post here, among friends. :)
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Message 1113159 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 20:28:37 UTC

Started with an Atari ST 16bit and 4MB of RAM, but used this at the end to get on BBSes and the early Internet. Used the text based NOS KA9Q to connect in late 1994.

Bought my first PC (under Win98) in the summer of 1995, and upgraded just before joining and crunching for SETI i the early Fall of 1999.

Continued CPU crunching here, except for an 18 month period. Also crunched other projects.
It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues



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Message 1113160 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 20:39:07 UTC

I've been crunching since June 20'th of 1999, and am days away from the 12 year mark. I started slowly, but now command a whopper computer and huge electric bill. I agree with VW, being able to post here with my friends is a big enhancement to me. I have met some very intelligent, and thoughtful people here. Before I discovered the boards, I was more of a hermit.

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Message 1113181 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 21:34:59 UTC
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Same here Steve.

With seti classic i was just crunching but as soon i´ve heard about Boinc i was active on the Forums.
Started Beta testing in 2003 i think with Boinc V2 on the old forums.
Time flies.

After i met some friends face to face everything changed for me.

And i have to disagree with some.
No its not only crunching.

Not for me.


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Message 1113195 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 21:50:11 UTC

It would be a lonely place here, If We were only in It for the crunching.
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Message 1113198 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 21:51:26 UTC - in response to Message 1113160.  

Well I'm glad you're here Steve. You're one of the most laid-back, intelligent, helpful people I've met in a long time.
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Message 1113209 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 22:29:08 UTC - in response to Message 1113198.  

Well I'm glad you're here Steve. You're one of the most laid-back, intelligent, helpful people I've met in a long time.


And so are you.
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Message 1113213 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 22:38:41 UTC - in response to Message 1113209.  


And so are you.

I agree completely! When I first found the boards, he helped me by making my link active as I struggled to figure things out. He is still helping anyone in need.

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Message 1113218 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 22:49:28 UTC
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there isn't going to be a group hug, is there?


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Message 1113225 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 23:04:39 UTC - in response to Message 1113218.  

there isn't going to be a group hug, is there?


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Doubt It. I have trouble hugging the few relatives I have left now.
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Message 1113308 - Posted: 5 Jun 2011, 2:29:48 UTC - in response to Message 1113025.  

Cheers for confirming my thoughts.

BTW checked out the spiders in the shed, they are big, and I suspect we've had mice too, well either that or the borrowers have made a mess.
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Message 1113362 - Posted: 5 Jun 2011, 6:42:26 UTC - in response to Message 1113218.  

there isn't going to be a group hug, is there?


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Well I appreciated the kind words. I don't hear enough of them lately. It was a real pick-me-up and a little bit of a surprise to me.

Thank you.
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Message 1113512 - Posted: 5 Jun 2011, 16:24:13 UTC

this may drive me to insulin dependency...
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