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Message 1112279 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 8:09:02 UTC - in response to Message 1112233.  

Sure You can, but was Your computer ever modded? Mine was, It had a B-Key keyboard to replace the stock membrane keyboard and 48K of ram, A stock Atari 400 comes with only 16K of Ram. The 48K ram board required some soldering and Yes I did some of the work Myself.


Yes it was, a proper keyboard and a 48k ram pack which had to be peeked and poked on booting, and built into a wooden case that looked remotely like a BBC Model B.

Not much soldering back then I'm afraid, but I've built a Doppler Radar since as a Radio Amateur.

Of course I felt it was much better than a BBC Model B (cheaper anyway).
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Message 1112295 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 10:08:44 UTC

I did a stint with Doom and Doom II back in the day.....LOL.
Don't do much gaming anymore. I am kept busy enough monitoring the crunchers, scanning the Seti forums, and keeping up with my Minicity visits.

And that old 233mmx I started with is still out in the garage somewhere.
Might be amusing to try to put it back together and see if would still boot.
Some day.
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Message 1112335 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 14:17:18 UTC

and who can forget the epic battle between os/2 and windows...
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Message 1112339 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 14:26:29 UTC - in response to Message 1112335.  

and who can forget the epic battle between os/2 and windows...


But it was a short one.



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Message 1112342 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 15:10:20 UTC

for all the "big brains" at IBM,
they got outsmarted by a couple
of college dropouts.
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Message 1112348 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 15:28:46 UTC

First MacIntosh retailed for $3500. My wife was a salesman (sales person ?) for Apple at the time--we got it for $1100. Later on I had a fully loaded Mac with a big monitor to do Multi-media investigations--it came in at around $10,000. Now my Quad core Windows machine was purchased for less than $500.

When I managed mainframe computers our first time disk capacity of one giga byte filled an entire room.
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Message 1112353 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 15:40:24 UTC

When I was in college in the early 80's we had a Prime Minicomputer with a number of dumb terminals, there were these great big washing machines filling the room and the total disc storage was 5 Megabytes.

Needless to say the word 'Prime' has nothing to do with its computing ability, it was crap.

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Message 1112354 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 15:42:20 UTC - in response to Message 1112335.  

and who can forget the epic battle between os/2 and windows...


I still have a copies of OS/2 2.1 and OS/2 3 Warp. Tried getting my hands on OS/2 4 because I hear it was first version that was user-friendly.

I still remember the media blitz IBM did before Windows 95 came out, trying to be the "first" commercial 32bit OS for x86 computers and beat Microsoft to the punch.

The problem was that it had almost no native applications except a few released by IBM. IBM tried advertising that OS/2 could run Windows apps natively, but it required a separate purchase of Windows 3.1 or a more expensive purchase of OS/2, and even then it could only run 16bit Windows apps and not the newer apps for Win32s (the Windows 3.1 32bit subsystem) or even the newer 32bit standard that was coming for Windows 95.

Because IBM and Microsoft parted ways, IBM could not obtain permissions to make OS/2 compatible with Win95 32bit apps, and I think that pretty much killed the OS despite it's superior design.
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Message 1112364 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 15:57:14 UTC
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The irony of the IBM vs Microsoft rivalry? IBM is now worth more than MS according to /., Go figure, Go Blue!
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Message 1112367 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 16:06:15 UTC - in response to Message 1112364.  

The irony of the IBM vs Microsoft rivalry? IBM is now worth more than MS according to /., Go figure, Go Blue!


It took a lot of restructuring on IBM's behalf to get there. They sold off their entire laptop and desktop divisions, leaving them to focus on their server market. I don't think they even have much of a software division anymore except perhaps branding Linux for their servers.
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Message 1112385 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 16:59:57 UTC - in response to Message 1112295.  

And that old 233mmx I started with is still out in the garage somewhere.
Might be amusing to try to put it back together and see if would still boot.
Some day.

I still have my old Apple II+ and IIe out in the garage.
My Apple IIGS is still in service for old games and mailing lists. That was my first Seti Classic cruncher.
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Message 1112396 - Posted: 2 Jun 2011, 17:28:08 UTC - in response to Message 1112367.  

The irony of the IBM vs Microsoft rivalry? IBM is now worth more than MS according to /., Go figure, Go Blue!


It took a lot of restructuring on IBM's behalf to get there. They sold off their entire laptop and desktop divisions, leaving them to focus on their server market. I don't think they even have much of a software division anymore except perhaps branding Linux for their servers.

I talk with an IBM tech guy that comes to my work every few months. He said that IBM only does support. Another quirk is that when IBM lays off employees they don't make a public declaration of it. Unlike other large corporations they don't want that negative attention drawn to them.


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Message 1112570 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 5:22:53 UTC - in response to Message 1112085.  

I had of of those




The world runs fast, for now, it only comes with a chip and a socket! :P
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Message 1112700 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 15:44:40 UTC

during a particularly bad tropical storm or hurricane,
i remember watching my connection going from 56.6 to 48,
48 to 36,
36 to 14.4,
14.4 to 8.
i lost patience somewhere between
36 and 14.4
and went to bed.
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Message 1112724 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 16:37:33 UTC - in response to Message 1112570.  

I had of of those




The world runs fast, for now, it only comes with a chip and a socket! :P


Wait! You mean they have another way to connect now??



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Message 1112728 - Posted: 3 Jun 2011, 16:44:19 UTC - in response to Message 1112724.  

I had of of those




The world runs fast, for now, it only comes with a chip and a socket! :P


Wait! You mean they have another way to connect now??


Yeah. For starters we've switched over to dial tone instead of rotary. ;-D
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Message 1112844 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 0:00:09 UTC - in response to Message 1112385.  

And that old 233mmx I started with is still out in the garage somewhere.
Might be amusing to try to put it back together and see if would still boot.
Some day.

I still have my old Apple II+ and IIe out in the garage.
My Apple IIGS is still in service for old games and mailing lists. That was my first Seti Classic cruncher.

Seti Classic on an Apple IIGS? Doesn't that use a 6502 cpu? Folks that's I think slower than the slowest PC, An original IBM PC(4.77MHz).
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Message 1112851 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 1:10:42 UTC - in response to Message 1112844.  

And that old 233mmx I started with is still out in the garage somewhere.
Might be amusing to try to put it back together and see if would still boot.
Some day.

I still have my old Apple II+ and IIe out in the garage.
My Apple IIGS is still in service for old games and mailing lists. That was my first Seti Classic cruncher.

Seti Classic on an Apple IIGS? Doesn't that use a 6502 cpu? Folks that's I think slower than the slowest PC, An original IBM PC(4.77MHz).

Uses a 65C02. About 2Mhz IIRC. Max 128k RAM. And I don't remember Seti Classic being available for it. Not only that I don't remember it exactly being able to be put on the internet. But my memory could be foggy.

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Message 1112855 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 1:31:17 UTC
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So far, of whom I've seen on this thread, phud, M5WJF, Mark, Jim_S, Carlos, Celt Tooth and KB7RZF are the only ones that've been 'crunching' longer than me (and have better equipment, I might add - hence their much higher RAC's and overall numbers than me); I also was an 'off-and-on' cruncher up till the last few years, mostly because I was without a 'puter for long periods.
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Message 1112860 - Posted: 4 Jun 2011, 1:46:37 UTC - in response to Message 1112851.  

And that old 233mmx I started with is still out in the garage somewhere.
Might be amusing to try to put it back together and see if would still boot.
Some day.

I still have my old Apple II+ and IIe out in the garage.
My Apple IIGS is still in service for old games and mailing lists. That was my first Seti Classic cruncher.

Seti Classic on an Apple IIGS? Doesn't that use a 6502 cpu? Folks that's I think slower than the slowest PC, An original IBM PC(4.77MHz).

Uses a 65C02. About 2Mhz IIRC. Max 128k RAM. And I don't remember Seti Classic being available for it. Not only that I don't remember it exactly being able to be put on the internet. But my memory could be foggy.


If I'm not mistaken, the minimum RAM requirements were much higher than 128k, which would make it impossible to run on such a system. If I remember correctly, 8MB of RAM was the minimum with the original "classic" client.
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