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Message 1111216 - Posted: 29 May 2011, 23:29:52 UTC
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Sometimes I feel like many of the newer Crunchers have No Respect for some of us Oldtimers Who Crunch with the best Kit we can afford.
But try to Remember the old days when our386's & 486's were Kings of Crunchin' SETI Classic and it took over a week at times to Crunch a WU.(When you could get them!)
Yeah I would love to crunch CUDA or whatever and have a 10,000+ RAC.
Fixed incomes Bite!
I even remember being in the top 2000 once upon a time.
And I intend to crunch till my last Puter Fries.

Please stay on topic, No Videos or Pictures unless they are relevant to the Older computers from our day. Pics of Crunch boxes that show how far we have come are fine.
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Message 1111218 - Posted: 29 May 2011, 23:35:58 UTC


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Message 1111221 - Posted: 29 May 2011, 23:55:18 UTC

I miss that little green icon in my systems tray. The BM one is just plain boring.
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Message 1111223 - Posted: 29 May 2011, 23:58:34 UTC - in response to Message 1111221.

I miss that little green icon in my systems tray. The BM one is just plain boring.

We Want Our Little Green Satellite Dish Back. ;-]
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Message 1111233 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 0:31:40 UTC

Now you have done it Jim. I think, I found the right icon. If not someone will let me know.
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Message 1111238 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 0:59:41 UTC - in response to Message 1111216.

I hear ya Jim. Too many people forget where we came from, and too often this causes them to lose sight of where we're going. History is something very important, but too often perspectives seem to get in the way of the facts.

I may not have started with a 486, but I certainly got every computer I owned at the time involved. I think my first computer on SETI was my personal machine, and my fastest, but I can't remember which one I owned in 2002 when I first joined. I think it was either a Pentium III 700MHz or a Pentium 4 1.6GHz. But I remember adding my AMD K6 166MHz CPU and how slow it was compared to my main machine, but I didn't care.

I still really, really want to connect all my old machines just to see them doing something useful, but you're right! Being a on tight budget bites big time!

At least we'll always have our memories.

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Message 1111242 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 1:16:52 UTC

Like when I uped my 486 to to a 586/133, And built my first athlon 750 OCed to 933.
Good Memories.
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Message 1111243 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 1:19:46 UTC - in response to Message 1111233.

Now you have done it Jim. I think, I found the right icon. If not someone will let me know.


It's close...I'd Like that better than a green Star. ;))
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Message 1111245 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 1:31:42 UTC

Yes, I agree with you guys. I started back in August of 1999, never went on the boards back then, was too confusing to figure out how to. LOL But then BOINC started up, and the changes to the website and forums, and here I am, almost 12 years later. I read pretty much everything in Number Crunching, simply because I like to learn. A LOT of this stuff is WAY over my head, but, its still interesting to read.

I'm no big cruncher at all. I've got my P4 2.8GHz w/HT, and my little ole Dell Laptop Core 2 Duo running @ 2.1GHz. No GPU stuff. It works for me. I'm happy with how much I've done in the 12 years that I started this.
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Message 1111247 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 1:41:34 UTC - in response to Message 1111245.

I started at seti in 1999, back then I was so proud that I was up to making all my own computers. I was a lot healthier then than I am now so I seemed to have a lot more time to do things. If I had a disappointment, it would be that I expected computers to be able to do a lot more than what they currently can do.
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Message 1111248 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 1:41:56 UTC

We are working on cleaning the Cookietaster and Dan the man Dens. Nothing like Eric's thou, to make a recycling run in two weeks.

Three treasures that won't be tossed and are available to a good homes.

1) A dual disk drive cleaning kit, 3 1/2 & 5 1/4
2) Head cleaning diskette 5 1/4
3) Memory master upgrade kit. My son thinks it is for a 486 by PNY Technologies. 32 mb upgrde 8mgx32-70 (Lifetime warranty if they still exist.)

All mint and never opened.

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Message 1111284 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 4:09:54 UTC
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I've been all over. Started with a 386, when the duo's came out I actually hired someone to run my seti boxes, I had 12 running red hat. He never got me into the top 100, so I fired him. When the quads came out I built 10 of them and got myself into the top 50 for a while. Then came Cuda. I sold off my quads when the economy went south and my power bill went north of $1,700 per month. Finally invested $200 to get a cuda card. Now I crunch with 1 quad and a cuda card. Power bills are low and my rac is respectable for a single machine.

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Message 1111285 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 4:18:46 UTC

Ah the good old times. Started crunching on a Power Mac G3 beige tower on dial up. Those were the days, about a day to finish a work unit. Gradually got more computers on the job, but then Classic ended. The G-3's weren't fast enough for OS X so I didn't switch to BOINC until I got this machine. Then I got the computers at work going on it as well. Had two start throwing errors so I made sure the backups were made. Good thing. Now I'm working elsewhere and there are enough network bugs seemingly caused by a Vista machine on an otherwise XP network that I don't have any of the work machines crunching.

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Message 1111309 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 7:41:38 UTC

32 mb upgrde 8mgx32-70


They would be 70 nanosecond simms and would suit a 486 with 72pin memory slots. I've got a load of 4mb x 60ns in a drawer somewhere, plus a load of 256kb 32 pin simms. ...

First PC on Seti classic in 2000 was a Dell P133 which I upgraded to 200mmhz with an overdrive chip which I have still got. It's not so much a lack of repect as a lack of awareness or remembering the struggles of us early pioneers. JIm has as much chance of discovering a wow signal as the top cruncher has.
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Message 1111365 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 13:25:47 UTC

Remember the old "computershopper" magazine?

two inches thick and eleven by nine inches...
back before the tech bubble burst...
millions of computer companies...
way back when CompUSA was a brick and mortar store...
and they had salespeople that actually knew what they were
talking about...

i remember being excited that i had a computer that
could crunch a wu in just eight hours...

(sigh)
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Message 1111384 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 14:22:23 UTC

and they had salespeople that actually knew what they were talking about...


Them's were the days. Walk into PCWorld or Maplins today and all you'll find is spotty teenagers that know nothing about anything and have to call out the Manager every 5 minutes. And he usually is about as much use a chocolate fireguard.

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Message 1111399 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 15:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 1111365.

Remember the old "computershopper" magazine?


Leave it to a pack rat to keep every copy of Computer Shopper from about 1994 all the way through until it became a "skinny" magazine and I dropped my subscription.

I like to pull them out once in a while and see advertisements like:

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Message 1111409 - Posted: 30 May 2011, 16:08:49 UTC - in response to Message 1111399.
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Remember the old "computershopper" magazine?


Leave it to a pack rat to keep every copy of Computer Shopper from about 1994 all the way through until it became a "skinny" magazine and I dropped my subscription.

I like to pull them out once in a while and see advertisements like:


Now that was a magazine and yeah I'd buy one every chance I got, But after they went thin, I stopped as they didn't seem to offer what the old format had.

Oh and I didn't start with a PC, I started in 1980 with a data compatible computer, An 8bit Atari 400 w/48K of Ram, The forerunner of modern PCs, As It had a chipset that could display 256 colors on screen, Today It has an add on card that can display about 32000 colors. But there's also another magazine that I remember another famous computer magazine:

COMPUTE! Magazine


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