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Message 1114068 - Posted: 6 Jun 2011, 22:40:56 UTC - in response to Message 1113838.

What would be good is an extra message board called "Project Status" where Admins, and say trusted others like Josef and Richard H etc could post messages like "As of xx.xx UTC there are no uploads/downloads due to server problems.

As you said, people don't look at the main page. If they don't look at that, then the odds of them finding anything else remotely appropriate are non-existant.
All the noise in these threads are proof of that.

More problematically, everyone using the now-recommended BOINC v6.12 will be seeing Notices for the first time - and the newest notice they'll see says "storage service is back up". That's misleading, to put it mildly, under the current circumstances. No wonder they post in the linked News thread "if the service is up, why am I having problems up/downloading. Is it me?". I'll probably write to David about that.


Yes it seems a bit strange to include "notices" in the latest version of boinc if the "notice" they give is totally out of date. Whilst trying to be helpful this has in my opinion caused more problems. People who know what is going on don't need it people who don't just get confused. Needs to be removed ASAP
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Message 1114107 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 1:13:48 UTC - in response to Message 1114068.
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I mainly just wish tech forums was staff-only. The only reason I come to tech news is to have.. you know, NEWS. Really frustrating seeing "Last post 2 minutes ago", and finding out that its just someone whinging and moaning about about a non-related issue (even if it's a related issue, it's still not tech news from the people who create the threads)..

Of course, my posting this is adding to the problem, but hopefully also exemplifies it, seeing as this post (which will now make it seem as though the thread has been updated) is in fact entirely irrelevant.

EDIT: also, on that note, having to scroll through the 50-100 replies in a thread to see a -staff- reply is also the reason I wish this to be staff-only (posting in, AND creating threads)

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Message 1114149 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 3:26:20 UTC

Nice to see you in here Careface!

Anywho, I came home from work to find that almost all my ULs were finally uploaded, but project shows no tasks available.

I hope they get some soon. I have been trying for about 2 weeks to get enough WUs to fill my 10 day que since I added this GTX460 to my main box.

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Message 1114189 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 5:49:09 UTC - in response to Message 1113797.
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Every time we have an outage for whatever reason, we always get threads about ca't upload, or can't download, or why can't I get any work etc etc. We need a central place where all people can go to see the current situation, because not all people think to look at the Home Page, and even then such as now, there isn't any information.

What would be good is an extra message board called "Project Status" where Admins, and say trusted others like Josef and Richard H etc could post messages like "As of xx.xx UTC there are no uploads/downloads due to server problems. Seti staff are aware and are dealing with the situation.

If this was widely publicised it would take away a lot of the frustration and extra threads we dont need. If it's made read only, then it will keep out posts venting about it. Just a thought, it may not be neccessary or even possible.

People find their way to the message boards easily enough so maybe something along the lines of this http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af291/Sparky362/Serverinfo-1.png would help. It could be stuck at the top of every message board topic page.

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Message 1114209 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 9:23:24 UTC

I would support Sparky's idea, it sounds good in principle.

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Message 1114394 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 22:44:15 UTC - in response to Message 1114209.

I would support Sparky's idea too.

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Message 1114414 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 0:18:26 UTC

Amen to Sparky. One step further, put a dynamic link in the BOINC manager to show realtime server status under the "Transfers" tab. Now that's innovation!

P.S. What is a "cricket graph" and how does one view it?

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Message 1114419 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 0:35:52 UTC - in response to Message 1114414.

P.S. What is a "cricket graph" and how does one view it?

Someone else has already asked that in this thread, and the very next post gave the link to it,

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Message 1114688 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 17:02:11 UTC

Very simliar to my idea posted some messages up.

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Message 1114694 - Posted: 8 Jun 2011, 17:09:19 UTC

For those that can't find it way back when, here's a link to the Cricket graph....
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=/router-interfaces/inr-250/gigabitethernet2_3&ranges=d%3Aw&view=Octets
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Message 1115067 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 14:49:21 UTC - in response to Message 1114694.

For those that can't find it way back when, here's a link to the Cricket graph....
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=/router-interfaces/inr-250/gigabitethernet2_3&ranges=d%3Aw&view=Octets

And it's showing a dramatic dropoff over the last couple of hours. Combine that with the Server Status page last being updated 7.5 hours ago and I wonder what's wrong now.

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Message 1115075 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 14:59:17 UTC

Yep, we have a pre-weekend hiccup ....

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Message 1115109 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 15:49:05 UTC

Which is the prelude to the Friday Night Diversion, the the Weekend Blues.....




Welcome to the world of S@H's servers.........
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Message 1115136 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 17:21:49 UTC - in response to Message 1115075.
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Yep, we have a pre-weekend hiccup ....


Ouch...this one is worse than the last one. At least then we had some green and some uploads going through. This time there is nothing.

EDIT: they still have just under one day until the "3 day outage" is over as well. So technically the servers are supposed to still be down :P
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Message 1115149 - Posted: 9 Jun 2011, 18:08:10 UTC
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And it seems we are back in action. Just uploaded all the WUs waiting to upload and reported them. BETA is another story though. Uploaded those WUs but it is failing to report it.
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Message 1115815 - Posted: 11 Jun 2011, 8:09:47 UTC

I think Boinc in general has had a rough time over the past few months since Xmas. Seti is up and down like yoyo, Dnetc went and came back, Same for Milkyway, also Freehal has been flaky. When you think about it, it's actually quite amazing that DC works at all, given all the parameters that have to be in place and working :-)

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Message 1115823 - Posted: 11 Jun 2011, 8:43:36 UTC - in response to Message 1115815.

I think Boinc in general has had a rough time over the past few months since Xmas. Seti is up and down like yoyo, Dnetc went and came back, Same for Milkyway, also Freehal has been flaky. When you think about it, it's actually quite amazing that DC works at all, given all the parameters that have to be in place and working :-)

Einstein@home has always given me work, so QMC@home.CPDN WUs are like langlaufers, not downhill skiers.I won't talk about Test4Theory@home since it is an Alpha project.
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Message 1115826 - Posted: 11 Jun 2011, 8:57:49 UTC - in response to Message 1115815.

Add climateprediction, Spinhenge, and Lattice (which seems to still be down) to the list of projects having issues lately.
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Message 1116388 - Posted: 12 Jun 2011, 19:40:40 UTC - in response to Message 1110013.
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Unless its absolutely cetain the SETI servers use ECC type memory I just replaced my old Mushkins with 8GB of Kingston Hyper X and my freeze up problems have disappeared, they were getting to be annoying. But for an ASUS P5E3 Premium board its been reported to be finicky with accepting any more than 4 GB of RAM, but ASUS forums Users with this board have reported some success with Kingston Hyper X, and I have been running 24/7 since last Wednesday when it arrived from newegg. Didn't even bother with MemTest or anything...This RAM is stable. Q9650 OC'd to 3.6 Ghz, and an ATI 4870 X2. So this Kingston Hyper X might work wonders for other systems as well, it has for mine.
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Message 1116397 - Posted: 12 Jun 2011, 19:54:58 UTC - in response to Message 1116388.

Unless its absolutely cetain the SETI servers use ECC type memory


All server-class motherboards require ECC memory, and some require ECC Registered memory and will not operate without it.

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