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Message 1109649 - Posted: 25 May 2011, 15:50:16 UTC

Hello everyone,

Just downloaded BOINC for seti, everthing seems fine - computing, GPU and network all enabled, but i cannot download any project, seems to constantly defer? possibly a firewall issue? i know there's probably another forum and many posts on this issue, but any help/advice woiuld be appreciated.

Thanks Lee H.

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Message 1109667 - Posted: 25 May 2011, 16:35:50 UTC - in response to Message 1109649.
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1) Restart BOINC
(and congratulations you spelled "BOINC" correctly :) Many New members spell it funny way: bionic, bionc, bonic, ...)

2) Go to menu Advanced -> Event Log, copy the first 30-40 lines of messages and post them here.
(they can give many clues to what is or is not wrong)

(but "cannot download any project" have to be rephrased as "cannot download any task")


And look at the green on this graph:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets

It is showing that for a period of 14 hours SETI downloads were disabled for everybody for some reason.
It is not only you, you just happen to choose a bad time to attach to SETI.

But now the green is raising up :)


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Message 1109784 - Posted: 25 May 2011, 23:48:14 UTC - in response to Message 1109667.

Everything up and running sweet now!! I can remember running seti 10 years ago when i first went on the net....good to be back :-))

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Message 1109794 - Posted: 26 May 2011, 0:36:58 UTC - in response to Message 1109784.
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Everything up and running sweet now!! I can remember running seti 10 years ago when i first went on the net....good to be back :-))


Then use this link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

(after that your Join date will not be 25 May 11 but the original date 10 years ago)

(the e-mail address of the Classic account does not need to be active)


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Message 1110484 - Posted: 27 May 2011, 19:04:28 UTC

Hi, I'm new also and am having the same problem. Can you help me? Here's my event log:

Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Starting BOINC client version 6.12.26 for x86_64-apple-darwin
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.7l zlib/1.2.3 c-ares/1.6.0
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Data directory: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6]
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Processor features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON DSCPL VMX EST TM2 SSSE3 CX16 TPR PDCM
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | OS: Mac OS X 10.6.6 (Darwin 10.6.0)
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 116.74 GB virtual
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Disk: 148.61 GB total, 116.50 GB free
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Local time is UTC -7 hours
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | No usable GPUs found
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5974116; resource share 100
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Preferences:
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | max memory usage when active: 1536.00MB
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | max memory usage when idle: 2764.80MB
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | max disk usage: 10.00GB
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | don't use GPU while active
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
Fri May 27 12:02:08 2011 | | Not using a proxy
Fri May 27 12:02:18 2011 | SETI@home | update requested by user
Fri May 27 12:02:23 2011 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Fri May 27 12:02:23 2011 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
Fri May 27 12:02:24 2011 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Fri May 27 12:02:24 2011 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available

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Message 1110499 - Posted: 27 May 2011, 19:28:15 UTC - in response to Message 1110484.

The front page says the servers are down.

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Message 1122235 - Posted: 27 Jun 2011, 23:44:47 UTC

I am having a weird issue I can download for approx 10 sec then it slowly falls off to 2Kbps and then goes into defered. I am sure it will finish sooner or later, The main reason I repliaed was to thank you for the Link to classic accounts and how to incorperate them as I too started SETI@HOME back in 2002 so it is nice to see my stats added to my new account.
I know it seems like not much work was done back then but I actually had 2 computers running and I tried to leave them on 24/7 of course I was using a 1.3Ghz Processor and I think 1 Gig ram back then lol
Now I am sporting a i7 2630QM quad and 16 Gb 1333Mhz DDR3 I think the speed of ram was 400Mhz back then

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Message 1127091 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 2:31:32 UTC
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Help me too please. My screen saver keeps saying No Tasks Running.

7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 6.12.33 for windows_intelx86
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.5
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Running under account Brittany
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5450 @ 1.66GHz [Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13]
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Processor: 2.00 MB cache
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 nx lm tm2 pbe
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Home Premium x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.00.6001.00)
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Memory: 1.99 GB physical, 4.22 GB virtual
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Disk: 178.40 GB total, 102.25 GB free
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Local time is UTC -7 hours
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | No usable GPUs found
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Preferences:
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | max memory usage when active: 1018.85MB
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 1833.92MB
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | max disk usage: 10.00GB
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | don't use GPU while active
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Not using a proxy
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | This computer is not attached to any projects
7/12/2011 6:25:22 PM | | Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions
7/12/2011 6:25:43 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
7/12/2011 6:25:48 PM | | Fetching configuration file from http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_project_config.php
7/12/2011 6:25:53 PM | | Resuming computation
7/12/2011 6:26:14 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
7/12/2011 6:26:24 PM | | Resuming computation
7/12/2011 6:26:49 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks
7/12/2011 6:26:49 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
7/12/2011 6:27:21 PM | | Benchmark results:
7/12/2011 6:27:21 PM | | Number of CPUs: 2
7/12/2011 6:27:21 PM | | 1543 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
7/12/2011 6:27:21 PM | | 3298 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
7/12/2011 6:27:22 PM | | Resuming computation
7/12/2011 6:27:26 PM | SETI@home | Master file download succeeded
7/12/2011 6:27:31 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
7/12/2011 6:27:31 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
7/12/2011 6:27:47 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
7/12/2011 6:27:47 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
7/12/2011 6:27:49 PM | SETI@home | Started download of arecibo_181.png
7/12/2011 6:27:49 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_40.png
7/12/2011 6:28:25 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_40.png
7/12/2011 6:28:25 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_banner_290.png
7/12/2011 6:28:26 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of sah_banner_290.png: HTTP error
7/12/2011 6:28:26 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 14 min 38 sec on download of sah_banner_290.png
7/12/2011 6:28:26 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_ss_290.png
7/12/2011 6:28:33 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_ss_290.png
7/12/2011 6:33:42 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of arecibo_181.png: HTTP error
7/12/2011 6:33:42 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 11 min 38 sec on download of arecibo_181.png
7/12/2011 6:33:43 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
7/12/2011 6:33:44 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
7/12/2011 6:34:14 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
7/12/2011 6:34:18 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
7/12/2011 6:34:18 PM | SETI@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
7/12/2011 6:34:31 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed
7/12/2011 6:37:48 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
7/12/2011 6:37:49 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
7/12/2011 6:37:49 PM | SETI@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
7/12/2011 6:37:51 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed
7/12/2011 6:43:04 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_banner_290.png
7/12/2011 6:43:39 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_banner_290.png
7/12/2011 6:45:21 PM | SETI@home | Started download of arecibo_181.png
7/12/2011 6:45:27 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of arecibo_181.png: HTTP error
7/12/2011 6:45:27 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 22 min 55 sec on download of arecibo_181.png
7/12/2011 6:50:44 PM | SETI@home | work fetch suspended by user
7/12/2011 6:50:46 PM | SETI@home | work fetch resumed by user
7/12/2011 6:53:21 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
7/12/2011 6:53:26 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
7/12/2011 6:53:26 PM | SETI@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
7/12/2011 6:53:32 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed
7/12/2011 7:02:15 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
7/12/2011 7:02:18 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
7/12/2011 7:02:19 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
7/12/2011 7:02:19 PM | SETI@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
7/12/2011 7:02:20 PM | SETI@home | suspended by user
7/12/2011 7:02:20 PM | SETI@home | resumed by user
7/12/2011 7:02:21 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed
7/12/2011 7:04:04 PM | SETI@home | Started download of arecibo_181.png
7/12/2011 7:04:12 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of arecibo_181.png: HTTP error
7/12/2011 7:04:12 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 41 min 25 sec on download of arecibo_181.png
7/12/2011 7:25:32 PM | SETI@home | Started download of arecibo_181.png
7/12/2011 7:26:09 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of arecibo_181.png
7/12/2011 7:26:27 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
7/12/2011 7:26:27 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
7/12/2011 7:26:35 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 3 new tasks
7/12/2011 7:26:37 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
7/12/2011 7:26:37 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setigraphics_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
7/12/2011 7:27:29 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setigraphics_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
7/12/2011 7:27:29 PM | SETI@home | Started download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll
7/12/2011 7:27:33 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe
7/12/2011 7:27:33 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-6.03_AUTHORS
7/12/2011 7:27:38 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-6.03_AUTHORS
7/12/2011 7:27:38 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-6.03_COPYING
7/12/2011 7:27:39 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll: HTTP error
7/12/2011 7:27:39 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 11 min 4 sec on download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll
7/12/2011 7:27:39 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-6.03_COPYRIGHT
7/12/2011 7:27:42 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-6.03_COPYING
7/12/2011 7:27:42 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-6.03_README
7/12/2011 7:28:02 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-6.03_README
7/12/2011 7:28:02 PM | SETI@home | Started download of seti_603.jpg
7/12/2011 7:28:03 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of seti_603.jpg: HTTP error
7/12/2011 7:28:03 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 14 min 2 sec on download of seti_603.jpg
7/12/2011 7:28:03 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 21ap11af.14659.12076.11.10.236
7/12/2011 7:28:13 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-6.03_COPYRIGHT
7/12/2011 7:28:13 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 17ja11ab.2033.8656.11.10.25
7/12/2011 7:28:14 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 17ja11ab.2033.8656.11.10.25: HTTP error
7/12/2011 7:28:14 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 12 min 44 sec on download of 17ja11ab.2033.8656.11.10.25
7/12/2011 7:28:14 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 17ja11ab.2033.8656.11.10.32
7/12/2011 7:28:19 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
7/12/2011 7:28:21 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 21ap11af.14659.12076.11.10.236
7/12/2011 7:28:21 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
7/12/2011 7:28:21 PM | SETI@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
7/12/2011 7:28:25 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed
7/12/2011 7:29:05 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 17ja11ab.2033.8656.11.10.32: HTTP error
7/12/2011 7:29:05 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 19 min 57 sec on download of 17ja11ab.2033.8656.11.10.32
7/12/2011 7:29:06 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
7/12/2011 7:29:09 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

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Message 1127142 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 6:53:08 UTC - in response to Message 1127091.

Since your computer is now attached and has plenty work units, I guess the problem has sorted out itself. :-)

And welcome to SETI@home and the forum.

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Message 1127154 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 8:22:31 UTC - in response to Message 1127142.

That didn't answer my question. The screen saver that I have still says No Tasks Running, and under projects it consistently says Connection Deferred.

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Message 1127157 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 9:35:45 UTC - in response to Message 1127154.

That are two questions. And since you had given no update, I just guessed from the available data.

For question one, set

Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above --- %
0 means no restriction
Enforced by version 6.10.30+
to zero in your Computing preferences. If you are using local preferences, make the change there.

For question two, just be patient. Obviously, your client can connect to the server, otherwise it wouldn't have downloaded the tasks.

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Message 1127207 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 14:50:53 UTC - in response to Message 1127157.
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For question two, just be patient. Obviously, your client can connect to the server, otherwise it wouldn't have downloaded the tasks.

There is a problem in your logic here. And that is that the database will sign you up with work and show that in your account that you have been assigned that work, but that doesn't mean you have downloaded it yet...

E.g., this task of mine will show to all the world as "In progress", but it isn't in on my system yet, it's still downloading. It has been downloading for close to 18 hours now. With the last she wrote:
13/07/2011 09:21:26 | SETI@home | Started download of 10my10ab.13461.23956.15.10.76.vlar
13/07/2011 09:21:26 | SETI@home | [file_xfer] URL: http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/3b4/10my10ab.13461.23956.15.10.76.vlar
13/07/2011 09:21:26 | | [statefile] set dirty: pers_file_xfer_set poll
13/07/2011 09:21:26 | | [statefile] Writing state file
13/07/2011 09:21:26 | | [statefile] Done writing state file
13/07/2011 09:21:28 | SETI@home | [file_xfer] http op done; retval -184 (HTTP error)
13/07/2011 09:21:28 | SETI@home | [file_xfer] file transfer status -184 (HTTP error)
13/07/2011 09:21:28 | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 10my10ab.13461.23956.15.10.76.vlar: HTTP error
13/07/2011 09:21:28 | SETI@home | Backing off 8 hr 5 min 24 sec on download of 10my10ab.13461.23956.15.10.76.vlar

So don't think that while it says for Brittany that she has all that work in progress, that she actually also has that work downloaded.

Seeing the Cricket network graph, we're not out of the woods yet. Full bandwidth is still being used, so lots of people in similar situations, I bet.
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Message 1127212 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 15:05:27 UTC - in response to Message 1127207.
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So don't think that while it says for Brittany that she has all that work in progress, that she actually also has that work downloaded.

Perhaps not all, but I have downloaded a task at 13 Jul 2011 | 2:59:57 UTC with only two retries. I can't believe that all 26 of Brittany's tasks are still pending in download when they have begun downloading starting at 13 Jul 2011 | 4:30:20 UTC.

[edit]And we wouldn't be forced to guess if Brittany not only said that it's still not working but would tell us the status of her Tasks tab or give us new log excerpts with corresponding error messages.[/edit]

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Message 1127282 - Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 17:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 1127212.

I wouldn't be so sure.. if downloading one task is giving this much trouble, I don't want to know what 26 of them do. ;-)

13/07/2011 19:08:04 | SETI@home | Started download of 10my10ab.13461.23956.15.10.76.vlar
13/07/2011 19:08:04 | SETI@home | [file_xfer] URL: http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/3b4/10my10ab.13461.23956.15.10.76.vlar
13/07/2011 19:08:08 | SETI@home | [file_xfer] http op done; retval -184 (HTTP error)
13/07/2011 19:08:08 | SETI@home | [file_xfer] file transfer status -184 (HTTP error)
13/07/2011 19:08:08 | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 10my10ab.13461.23956.15.10.76.vlar: HTTP error
13/07/2011 19:08:08 | SETI@home | Backing off 9 hr 29 min 1 sec on download of 10my10ab.13461.23956.15.10.76.vlar

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Message 1127410 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 0:28:25 UTC - in response to Message 1127282.

My computer has been working all night and all day and I still have no credits. How is this possible?

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Message 1127422 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 1:59:15 UTC - in response to Message 1127410.

Once you return work, it must be compared against a quorum partner (a.k.a. "wingman") to verify the accuracy of the results. Once the copies match sufficiently, then credit is granted.

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Message 1127638 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 19:03:28 UTC - in response to Message 1127422.

Can you udate my points again so that I can please receive points for this in my school astronomy class. Thank you.

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Message 1127647 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 19:23:31 UTC - in response to Message 1127638.

ummm please read the post before yours. that is how "points" are awarded
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Message 1127666 - Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 20:27:48 UTC - in response to Message 1127638.

Can you udate my points again so that I can please receive points for this in my school astronomy class. Thank you.


I'm not updating your points. The process is completely automated.

The servers split data into chunks of work called "workunits". These workunits are sent out to at least two people to be analyzed or "crunched", while the results are stored in a file. Once you have gone through the entire workunit, you upload the result to the server.

If you return your work before the other person has, you have to wait until they return their copy of the same workunit. If you return your copy after they have, then the two results are compared, and if similar, credits are awarded.

If the results are not similar enough, or if one of you don't return the workunit before the deadline, then a third copy of the same workunit is generated and automatically sent out to another person and the process continues until either a match is found for the result, or 10 re-sends, whichever comes first.

All of this is handled through automated scripts. No human intervention is performed except in extremely rare circumstances.

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