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jravin Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 717 Credit: 61,307,035 RAC: 70,576	Message 1109354 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 14:05:13 UTC
	I'm down to only 4 WUs left on my Pending Credit list. How are you doing? I assume this will disappear entirely in the not too distant future; is there anything that could replace it on the Account page that would be of use to the community? In the past, I have asked for counts of WUs in the various categories (i.e., total number of valid, invalid, pending, etc.), but have been ignored. ____________
	ID: 1109354 ·

Lint trap Send message Joined: 30 May 03 Posts: 854 Credit: 20,209,818 RAC: 20,922	Message 1109374 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 14:57:44 UTC - in response to Message 1109354.
	I've had 4 remaining for two weeks now. Their current timeout dates are scattered from early June into July. None of them are close to running out of reassignment opportunities. Barring any Admin intervention, it could be a long wait before the list is finally clear. Martin
	ID: 1109374 ·

Cliff Harding Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 608 Credit: 34,375,471 RAC: 56,252	Message 1109377 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 15:04:12 UTC
	I don't know when my ran out, but mine are done.
	ID: 1109377 ·

dnolan Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1223 Credit: 34,351,771 RAC: 6,875	Message 1109380 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 15:08:20 UTC
	5 left for me. Current sends due in late May/early June, but most can be sent out a couple more times after that. -Dave ____________
	ID: 1109380 ·

skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8943 Credit: 36,691,603 RAC: 60,745	Message 1109383 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 15:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 1109380.
	I have 1 left from February and apparently its going to be around for another round. My wingman hasn't returned a WU since April 25th and this 1 is due back in 2 more days. ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
	ID: 1109383 ·

Ellis Hardin Send message Joined: 15 Mar 01 Posts: 33 Credit: 18,637,384 RAC: 34,207	Message 1109385 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 15:43:01 UTC
	I was down to one that expired on the 21st. But it timed out, and resent until July something. BUT, I just checked and now it's gone. I'm now done with Pending Credit... ____________
	ID: 1109385 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 241 Credit: 19,097,298 RAC: 25,075	Message 1109420 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 21:37:11 UTC - in response to Message 1109385.
	I am down to 1 as well. It will probably be resent on the 31st as my wingman apparently downloaded over 600 WUs on April 14 and is plugging away at them at a rate of about 1 every 3 days. It will just be the luck of the draw if he gets to mine. It has been hanging around for some time now and is probably actually a bad WU. ____________
	ID: 1109420 ·

Dave Send message Joined: 29 Mar 02 Posts: 774 Credit: 23,193,139 RAC: 0	Message 1109426 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 21:59:10 UTC
	Yes I had 1 at the last check. That's a nice clean database isn't it.
	ID: 1109426 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7459 Credit: 39,705,362 RAC: 34,349	Message 1109439 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 23:01:15 UTC - in response to Message 1109426.
	Yes I had 1 at the last check. That's a nice clean database isn't it. No, it isn't. You will likely have just as many pending tasks as before, probably more judging by the 'in the field' / 'awaiting validation' figures on the server status page. It's just that tasks completed after 8 March 2011 are excluded by the query which generates that page. If you don't believe me, look at your user task list, and select the 'pending' filter.
	ID: 1109439 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1490 Credit: 62,713,549 RAC: 87,050	Message 1109442 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 23:17:01 UTC - in response to Message 1109439.
	I've got 6 myself divided between 2 wingmen (Tim Norton & speedbump) and all of them are due to time out within the next 24hrs. Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1109442 ·

Andre Howard Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 113 Credit: 115,404,320 RAC: 101,654	Message 1109449 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 23:35:21 UTC
	Only 16 left for me,but it looks like some are going to roll over again ____________
	ID: 1109449 ·

arkayn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 3089 Credit: 40,366,164 RAC: 66,172	Message 1109453 - Posted: 25 May 2011, 0:19:22 UTC
	2 left on that old list for me. Plus 680 more not listed there. ____________
	ID: 1109453 ·

skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8943 Credit: 36,691,603 RAC: 60,745	Message 1109480 - Posted: 25 May 2011, 2:24:23 UTC - in response to Message 1109453.
	I wonder if the pending list elimination is intended to decrease server tasking. Limiting us to 20 at a time instead of querying for possibly 100's ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
	ID: 1109480 ·

Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 3932 Credit: 934,327 RAC: 15	Message 1109553 - Posted: 25 May 2011, 6:25:54 UTC - in response to Message 1109480.
	I wonder if the pending list elimination is intended to decrease server tasking. Limiting us to 20 at a time instead of querying for possibly 100's I think the logic was simply that because claimed credit was no longer being used in the calculation of granted credit, it was a waste of Scheduler time to calculate the claim. Certainly having a user page through multiple sets of 20 is more load on the server than getting the full set in one query. It would be simple to change the query for the whole set to depend on having a non-zero CPU time or similar rather than a non-zero claimed credit. Then some tweaking of the php for the pending page could have it make sense in terms of the total number of pending tasks, and could for instance have the total run time from which some users might be able to estimate the total pending credit. IOW, if those of you with multiple systems and high productivity want a pendings page with the full list and some of the associated data which is in the database, it is possible. Getting Dr. Anderson to implement it would be a matter of asking for it and explaining the request in a way which makes sense to him. Joe
	ID: 1109553 ·

jravin Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 717 Credit: 61,307,035 RAC: 70,576	Message 1109596 - Posted: 25 May 2011, 12:09:59 UTC - in response to Message 1109553.
	Joe - How does one make a request of Dr. A? I really would like a summary page (of counts of WUs in the various states) rather than going through them page by page instead of the old Pending Credit. Counts could be maintained on the fly (perhaps), so the query would be very simple and no load on the servers. Could be an alternate to the Pending Credit on the Accounts page, or be automatically displayed when the Accts page is asked for... ____________
	ID: 1109596 ·

Miep Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 23 Jul 99 Posts: 2399 Credit: 339,635 RAC: 0	Message 1109623 - Posted: 25 May 2011, 13:51:15 UTC - in response to Message 1109596.
	Joe - How does one make a request of Dr. A? I really would like a summary page (of counts of WUs in the various states) rather than going through them page by page instead of the old Pending Credit. Counts could be maintained on the fly (perhaps), so the query would be very simple and no load on the servers. Could be an alternate to the Pending Credit on the Accounts page, or be automatically displayed when the Accts page is asked for... Ageless maintains a 'wishlist' on the Boinc board and relays requests that make sense. May take some time. And please don't remind me about what happened the last time I asked for something that would have made a lot of sense. Alternatively write up as email - with very clear explanation what you want and why you want it. Then either post yourself to the boinc_dev mailing list (subject line starting 'user web') or have one of the resident contributors/readers email it for you (e.g. Richard Haselgrove, me, possibly Joe). ____________ Carola ------- I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages!
	ID: 1109623 ·

James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6051 Credit: 14,698,704 RAC: 20,980	Message 1109936 - Posted: 26 May 2011, 12:48:37 UTC
	I have one left on the list and its from 26 Jan 11. ____________
	ID: 1109936 ·

Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 3904 Credit: 359,795 RAC: 816	Message 1110065 - Posted: 26 May 2011, 18:07:49 UTC
	Guess I'm lucky. Mine went empty the end of March. Now on my Tasks page...... ____________ Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired
	ID: 1110065 ·

Ken Sobel Send message Joined: 23 May 11 Posts: 1 Credit: 102,747 RAC: 0	Message 1111584 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 1:09:44 UTC
	What do you do with credits? I just joined SETI and I am getting credits, but I can't find any information on what I do with the. Can anyone tell me? Thanks ____________ Ken Sobel
	ID: 1111584 ·

jravin Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 717 Credit: 61,307,035 RAC: 70,576	Message 1111589 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 1:59:45 UTC - in response to Message 1111584.
	What do you do with credits? I just joined SETI and I am getting credits, but I can't find any information on what I do with the. Can anyone tell me? Thanks You can exchange 10,000,000 credits for absolutely nothing. We just use credits to see whose CPU/Graphics card/Computer is "better" than anyone else's - the more credits granted, presumably, the more work you have done (= more science done). Some folks take it very seriously, but most don't. And you don't need to have a giant dual hexcore Xeon/ 4 monster graphics cards to contribute - there are many, many Setizens who contribute much less than others do, but they are doing their part the way the project was intended to be. All who want to process for Seti are welcome. ____________
	ID: 1111589 ·

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