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Message 1102811 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 19:15:47 UTC - in response to Message 1102785.
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I'm wondering about the reaction from the Skyman over burying Bin Laden in such a manner as proposed by VW Bobier.
Since both religions pray to the same dude in the clouds, will the Skyman be pleased or angered?

Here we have "Skyman" and "dude in the clouds" ... . Obvious attempts at mockery, rather than asking questions.
However, in the end, despite it's poor presentation, Robert actually asks a good question here. [I know, he'll overlook that I said this. :)]
Then again, Muslim's are the one's that claim they worship the same God that Christians do. I wonder what most Christians' take on this is?

I do not feel good about celebrating the death of anyone, but I am satisfied that Bin Laden has been afforded the justice that fits his evil actions. I understand he was given the opportunity to surrender, which would have led to a trial that his followers would have (logically) pointed out he could not win, so his decision to be "martyred" seems to have ended in the better result.

As for his burial, the US was right to afford him all the rites of Muslim burial. After all, we are not fighting Islam, we are fighting terrorists . . . many of whom are Muslim.

Robert's use of mocking terms for God does not bother me. The God that I believe in allows us the ability to believe or not. If we had no choice in the matter we would not be human. Robert does not believe in God, but that has no impact on my own decision, which I believe is the better one. Though I am not Christian, I believe that the "Muslim God" is the same as the "Jewish" and "Christian God". Historically and traditionally all three religions stem from Abraham.

[Edit]: I have to add that it is a very good thing that the intelligence which led to this operation panned out (a white house spokesman called it good "circumstantial" evidence).

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Message 1102813 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 19:28:22 UTC - in response to Message 1102811.

Wasn't there a branch of monks that spent their whole lives doing nothing but writing down the different names of God? Wonder if they have Skyman and Dude in the clouds on their list?
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Message 1102828 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 20:26:53 UTC

"the dude abides"
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Message 1102863 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 22:08:43 UTC - in response to Message 1102828.

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Personally I believe burial at sea was the best option. He'll be martyred by his followers but they'll have no place to make a "shrine" for him....

I saw this on a Facebook page today:

Osama you are with your 72 virgins now but since you don't believe in Homosexuality, I hope they are 72 male, unwashed, stinky hairy virgins with one especially big one named Bubba waiting for you saying, "Come here b*tch. I'm gonna show you what I did to Saddam."
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And that was one of the most logical options, making him dissapear, but also make sure, it was Osama Bin Laden, thats also why, his villa wasn't bommed ,
but raided. And shot through the head, identified and thrown into the sea!

And I can only agree, ;-) , with former speaker, since he was lucky enough, to get shot and end up dead. (a lot of terrorists have and will be through far more 'HELL', then they expected or bargained for, probably never enough!
But all 'helps' in these sad cases.
Hope, research, will be able to put a stop, to all these 'sick-people', born (intentually?) and 'infected' with this 'terrorist infection'.......
(I know NOT the 'normal way', but there are somethings, that somewhow, has to put to a full HALT, at all costs!)


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Message 1102869 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 22:21:17 UTC - in response to Message 1102798.
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Personally I believe burial at sea was the best option. He'll be martyred by his followers but they'll have no place to make a "shrine" for him....


Revelations 13:1 "Then out of the sea I saw a beast rising. It had ten horns and seven heads."

The beast will recover from a head wound, as if by miracle. A second beast will descend from space and order that we worship an image of the first beast.

This is why the space shuttle program is ending, and why the Allen Array has shut down.

Get ready to meet ET.... It's Satan.
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Message 1102874 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 22:49:47 UTC - in response to Message 1102869.

For now he's in the ocean. And cannot make very much conclusions as to what will
happen.

And i'm too sober to see some beasts, rise out of the sees, sorry.......

And, I've had it, with all those violent events. Time to think of something totally
different.......


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Message 1102878 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 23:03:05 UTC - in response to Message 1102869.

The beast will recover from a head wound, as if by miracle. A second beast will descend from space and order that we worship an image of the first beast.

This is why the space shuttle program is ending, and why the Allen Array has shut down.

Get ready to meet ET.... It's Satan.


Ummm...ok. I don't see that happening.
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Message 1102881 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 23:24:42 UTC

maybe they tied smoked ham shoulders to the bag to weigh it down...
sharks love ham...
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Message 1102885 - Posted: 2 May 2011, 23:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 1102878.

Ummm...ok. I don't see that happening.


Imposters still live, and he made many recordings intended to appear he'd be living after his death. No one believes he will literally rise from the sea with his head wounds recovered. That's why we are to worship an image of him, under threats from above.

There is another interpretation that requires the president being driven from office after 42 months (that's this month or sometime this summer, depending what it means "to rule" and other uncertainties when referencing lunar months in the bible). My feeling is that Wikileaks could make this happen.

Notice that in either scenario, there is nothing mystical about prophecy. It's only an act, and a convenient way to align the world by a plan... (a plan that none of us asked for, but we're getting it anyway).
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Message 1102897 - Posted: 3 May 2011, 1:13:28 UTC - in response to Message 1102758.

Should have called on the old Soviet Union for the favor of a grave location. Something inside the sarcophagus of the Chernobyl plant. No one could visit, no shrine could be built. No one would dare desecrate.
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Message 1102987 - Posted: 3 May 2011, 9:16:46 UTC - in response to Message 1102869.

Personally I believe burial at sea was the best option. He'll be martyred by his followers but they'll have no place to make a "shrine" for him....


Revelations 13:1 "Then out of the sea I saw a beast rising. It had ten horns and seven heads."

The beast will recover from a head wound, as if by miracle. A second beast will descend from space and order that we worship an image of the first beast.

This is why the space shuttle program is ending, and why the Allen Array has shut down.

Get ready to meet ET.... It's Satan.


This is the worst post I have seen here in months....Astonishing the high density of nonsense per square inche you just edited/wrote.
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Message 1102999 - Posted: 3 May 2011, 11:44:11 UTC

The Seti Politics thread was always outrageous, I see that nothing has changed .....

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Message 1103037 - Posted: 3 May 2011, 15:30:07 UTC

Confucius, states, "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."
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Message 1103048 - Posted: 3 May 2011, 15:54:06 UTC - in response to Message 1102653.

Wrap him in bacon and stick him in the oven. When fully cooked, plant him in an Israeli cemetery. That f'r deserves nothing less.

...and it is the this sort of thinking that helps breed a new generation of terrorists. Hate on hate on hate.

It is worth remembering that funerals are for the living left behind. The dead person no longer cares. Depending on your belief he/she is either gone for good or being dealt with by a higher power.

So which group of living are you satisfying by proposing such a burial?

Revenge? He's dead, so who are you getting revenge on?
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Message 1103066 - Posted: 3 May 2011, 21:49:47 UTC - in response to Message 1103048.

...and it is the this sort of thinking that helps breed a new generation of terrorists. Hate on hate on hate.

And it destroys your own morals by doing it. Hence the need of the second grave.

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Message 1103130 - Posted: 4 May 2011, 3:21:38 UTC - in response to Message 1103048.

Wrap him in bacon and stick him in the oven. When fully cooked, plant him in an Israeli cemetery. That f'r deserves nothing less.

...and it is the this sort of thinking that helps breed a new generation of terrorists. Hate on hate on hate.

It is worth remembering that funerals are for the living left behind. The dead person no longer cares. Depending on your belief he/she is either gone for good or being dealt with by a higher power.

So which group of living are you satisfying by proposing such a burial?

Revenge? He's dead, so who are you getting revenge on?



Or, it's a form of psyops against radical Islam ???

I have a favorite saying also.... "Life is for the living"!

It's in my list of favorite sayings like "When all is said and done, there's nothing left to say or do."

Or, Yogi Bearisms like "When you come to a fork in the road......take it."

Seriously, these people had no problem slowly sawing people's heads off on camera. Did you see the video? I can post a link here if you'd like. Really, I can. Do you have the stomach? Would you like me to? If not, just let your opinion blow in the wind. You aren't involved in the daily twist and turns of this war, and your opinion is without full understanding. When you understand Takfir (Takfeer) and ideas such as Muslims entering into contracts with non-muslims (riba), you may get a better understanding of what this is all about.

Until you research and understand these concepts, you got a long way to go, baby. This is a psychological war as much as a physical war. I'm not worried about hate on hate on hate. I'm worried about survival.


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Message 1103198 - Posted: 4 May 2011, 5:54:49 UTC - in response to Message 1103130.
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Peace be upon you, for you have drunk deeply of the koolaid.

Peace be upon you for your hate has driven all reason from you.

You shall not murder. You know this, but the koolaid calls for it.

May peace be upon you before you meet lucifer, the spiritual leader of the stereotype.

May peace be upon you before it is too late.

God is Great. God is Greater than the false profits of the airwaves.

Drink again the koolaid, for today you need fortification.

Drink the koolaid again, as it alone prevents the tongue from burning.

Become the koolaid. Be one with the koolaid.
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Message 1103253 - Posted: 4 May 2011, 12:07:34 UTC - in response to Message 1103198.

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love.
Where there is injury, pardon.
Where there is doubt, faith.
Where there is despair, hope.
Where there is darkness, light.
Where there is sadness, joy.

O Divine Master,
grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled, as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to Eternal Life.

Amen.

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Message 1103291 - Posted: 4 May 2011, 15:44:22 UTC - in response to Message 1103130.



Or, it's a form of psyops against radical Islam ???

I have a favorite saying also.... "Life is for the living"!

It's in my list of favorite sayings like "When all is said and done, there's nothing left to say or do."

Or, Yogi Bearisms like "When you come to a fork in the road......take it."

Seriously, these people had no problem slowly sawing people's heads off on camera. Did you see the video? I can post a link here if you'd like. Really, I can. Do you have the stomach? Would you like me to? If not, just let your opinion blow in the wind. You aren't involved in the daily twist and turns of this war, and your opinion is without full understanding. When you understand Takfir (Takfeer) and ideas such as Muslims entering into contracts with non-muslims (riba), you may get a better understanding of what this is all about.

Until you research and understand these concepts, you got a long way to go, baby. This is a psychological war as much as a physical war. I'm not worried about hate on hate on hate. I'm worried about survival.



You silly silly silly man.

You say "these people". "These people" as if all Muslims are "these people" and should be all treated as if they were nutters.

You silly silly man. Shame on you.

Unlike you it seems I actually can tell the difference between "these people" and most Muslims. For example I see no need to upset the family of my son's best friend who look after him for me, and let him sleep over and spoil him rotten. They even took him to a basketball game to see the Harlem Globe Trotters.

Why on earth would I want to sew hate amongst these people who have been nothing but kind as if they were somehow responsible for some crazy person in a distant country?

You take wild stabs at millions of people with your xenophobic comments while living in terror of your neighbours as if that is somehow a normal and sane way to behave.

Gary's right. You've drunk the Koolaid and you are just the same as the people that go around chopping off heads for their cause. The only difference is that you know in America they would punish you for it. Otherwise you'd be out there swinging your sword while singing the American National Anthem and praising Jesus.
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Message 1103355 - Posted: 4 May 2011, 20:46:46 UTC

Just two thoughts about this issue:
1st)
It was not a good idea to kill Osama Bin Laden.
Why? Because the U.S. has enough tools to catch him or any other person without killing him. It costs the same planning an assault like this one with SEAL forces killing the bad guy, as it might cost in planning the same mission and get them as prisoners. Just an example: WWII and the N├╝renberg Processes against the nazis (Albert Speer, Goebbels,...)in Germany. The U.S. should have taken all actions needed to get them, and keeping them alive until sentenced. There were images published of the nazi prisoners after their executions.
Osama Bin Laden did not only kill U.S. citizens but also people from all over the world. We had in Spain as well a bloody terrorist attack some years ago. The U.S. has the right to be very angry with this person but should have kept itself cool and should have let the judges make him the process. In the U.S. the death penalty is still available in most states, in case he was judged in the U.S. territory by U.S. laws system. In the European Union, as far as I know, we do not have the death penalty anywhere, which means that Osama Bin Laden would have spent all his life in jail, something similar as Albert Speer did in Spandau/Berlin for 20 years from 1948 to 1968 I guess it was. But this would have been too expensive and, why not, dangerous. Who knows?

2nd)
The code name Geronimo EKIA. I am affraid the native americans feel themselves quite offended and not only native americans. I guess they took this name because it is easy to remember and easy to link it with the past history of the U.S. Someone found it appropriated!! I personally do not care how you call the mission, it is your own business, but I think that was not a smart idea. It is a silly way to create more angry people.
Congratulations to those SEAL troopers for their success. Mission accomplished!

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