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Thought this was pretty interesting. I have not researched all the links in the article yet, but still makes for an interesting conversation. What do you guys think? On October 21, 2004, the NSA approved for release to the public a portion of their NSA Journal Vol. XIV No. 1. This is a report of a presentation given to the NSA by Dr. Howard Campaigne regarding the decoding of extraterrestrial messages that had been received “form outer space”. Apparently, these messages had actually been received via the Sputnik satellite, but no one had any idea how to decode them at the time. ____________ "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 | |
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That is interesting Jason! | |
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Very interesting since googling Dr. Howard campaigne's name only shows conspiracy websites | |
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thats true too. I don't think sputnik was set up with a receiver. it only transmitted data. http://www.mentallandscape.com/S_Sputnik1.htm | |
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'Sputnik' a generic term used by Soviet and Russian space programs. There were over 40 Sputnik satellites between 1957 and 1998. Many of them certainly had radio receivers. It's difficult to know what to make of this story. Some maintain that the 29 messages were merely code-breaking exercises, which originated on Earth. That all this business about a satellite and extraterrestrials was just an imaginative gimmick to dress up the article. Others claim that this is not the case; that the messages are genuinely extraterrestrial. The article was apparently featured in a real NSA publication. Dr. Howard Campaigne apparently a long-time, legitimate computer and cryptographic expert for the government. See the following: http://9websites.com/airforce/nsa-comp.htm If this were all just an exercise, one wonders why that wasn't made clear in the NSA article. They would surely have understood how the article could be misunderstood, as written, and sought to avoid a discreditable connection with loose talk about real extraterrestrial messages. All that was needed was a clear statement that the extraterrestrial connection was a flight of imagination. As this does not appear in the article, as given, their is legitimate doubt raised about the 'exercise' scenario. Michael | |
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Lets say it is real and that it is an ET signal. If they wanted to communicate with us, and assuming this came from the earliest Sputnik, then a "beep beep beep" would be something along the lines of Morse Code. Possible yes, but I would say unlikely. But who knows. I still think the governments are hiding a lot about space and stuff to do with it. At this point, anything that mentions ET signals, most people would first call it a conspiracy or a hoax. that seems commonplace these days. ____________ "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 | |
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The following article seems to clear up the mystery, providing the wider context. I still think that Dr. Campaigne's article should have had a clearer editorial explanation. This would have prevented all the recent misunderstanding. http://www.openminds.tv/nsa-practices-deciphering-et-signals-668/ | |
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so giving us another link to another conspiracy site makes it clearer? How about the mysterious Dr. whose name only gets mentioned on conspiracy nut sites. | |
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I love a good conspiracy! Governments are always covering stuff up! Makes you wonder why we elect them in the first place. | |
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It is not the pollies that cover these things up but the so called civil servants.The pollies probibly know as much about this as we do IE very little. | |
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It is not the pollies that cover these things up but the so called civil servants.The pollies probibly know as much about this as we do IE very little. As much as I want to agree, I have to disagree. I have seen to many politicians lie cheat and steal for me to believe everything they tell us. I have no reason to believe that every single one of them are telling the truth. They get paid too much. ____________ "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 | |
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So, Mulder, it it real or not? | |
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如果外星人给我们发送的信号是二进制的就好了,O(∩_∩)O哈哈~,0101010101010 | |
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Interesting, i agree, the document does not state a location of source in space of the radio transmissions. Any ETI transmissions would give the location of the source. For example, if those messages came from the direction of Centauri system, then that brings more substance/validity to ETI transmissions. The document does not give radio fraquencies, so that means that all the those messages could have an Earthly origin. The key thing is, identification of source and its radio frequency nature. | |
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I think they are just playing out a scenario, | |
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The point is that even from the early days of sci-fi, like Dan Dare and the Treens, we have been conditioned to believe that any Aliens would be basically bipeds, but with very different faces and heads. Mainly of course so that it makes it easier for human actors with masks to play parts in films. | |
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I'd love to meet an advanced race of slugs & millipedes! Now that really would be cool! John. ____________ | |
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I think they are just playing out a scenario, Donegal_TDI, I'm currently in the middle of decoding ET signals. I have been at it for over 6 months now. I always thought that if mankind detected a signal from ET, the best scientists in the world would be put to work decoding it with all the resources they need. But no, in the end it has turned out to be me who receives the signal. And to top that off, i haven't a clue how to decode it. So without any help from anyone, cos nobody would believe me if i told them, i have to go and learn how to decode the information by myself. Sounds like i'm talking complete rubbish, doesn't it? Well thats the way it worked out. When i do finally crack the code i will publish my results and everyone will know what i'm talking about. Until then, the world will just have to wait. John. ____________ | |
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