What ever happened to the phrase I grew up with? My parents taught me very young that "Sticks and Stones may break my Bones, bur Words could never hurt me" Seems that that phrase has gone out the window and now so many suicides over words. Now it seems the word "Respect" is worth killing for, people shoot people for words. Kids definately seem to be hearing the wrong messages....

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Perhaps times were better when kids knew that they weren't the smartest and brightest in the class. Or that some kids were always going to fail. Now we deal with kids that think they are important because they've been taught that their self esteem is more important than doing a good job. Sure they feel good about themselves but they cannot learn because they feel important and feeling important is much better than knowledge anyday. Perhaps the kids that do choose the suicide route have discovered that they aren't all that important as they should have known and can't deal with people their own age still thinking the way they had.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Perhaps times were better when kids knew that they weren't the smartest and brightest in the class. Or that some kids were always going to fail. Now we deal with kids that think they are important because they've been taught that their self esteem is more important than doing a good job. Sure they feel good about themselves but they cannot learn because they feel important and feeling important is much better than knowledge anyday. Perhaps the kids that do choose the suicide route have discovered that they aren't all that important as they should have known and can't deal with people their own age still thinking the way they had.

I think you got it right. Sounds like you are describing my Grandkids....

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I work with several "young" adults. They make the same mistakes repeatedly. When I attempt to explain what they are doing wrong, I get the response, I know!!!

I have to explain to them that No you don't know otherwise I wouldn't be standing here explaining things to you. SO its best for both of us if you'd actually listen to me and get it right from now on

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Magnificently Stated. As is Dude's reply.

iWorm 'em

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Words can hit harder than fists.

This does not justify fists, nor does it justify words of cruelty.

It is another tangent completely that we have college students that do not know how to cross the street, and believe diagonally through the intersection is just fine and dandy, ride bicycles every which way and the complain about the cars not giving them room.

Broken bones usually heal. Not so broken spirits. Speak gently.

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Janice

Emotional pain registers in the same portions of the brain as physical pain. When someone feels like they've been hurt deeply, it hurts as much as a hard punch to the body. It isn't anyone else's place to tell someone what their feelings should be.

I'm all for people having thicker skin - it's a requirement to live with some people on this planet.

But having seen some of the mean things people say to each other, especially over the internet because it's just a bunch of words and you can't see the person's face and their emotional expressions of being hurt, it's just terrible.



Don't take my word for it though. Go ask any accident victim how much physical pain they're in. Then ask them again in 10 or 20 years if the pain is the same.

Then ask a victim of mental and/or verbal abuse how much pain and anguish they're in. Then ask them again in 10 or 20 years. The pain may have dulled, but it will always be there. Therapy only helps them to learn to cope with it, not take the pain away.

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having had both sever physical and emotional pain I can honestly say I'd rather recover from Physical pain. Though, I can say some emotion pain realy is character building.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

It sure is, but not everyone is given the proper coping skills to deal with emotional pain.

Some parent's are really good about teaching their children how to put bandages or ointment on scars. There's quite a few parents out there that don't teach their kids how to deal with emotional scars - or often cause the deepest scars of all.

Expecting everyone to fit in the same "box" as to let everything roll off their shoulders is simply unrealistic. We shouldn't give those people with lesser coping skills grief because of their inability to deal with issues that others can do more easily.

We're not all built the same. We should respect our differences and learn to live with them and each other.

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I've had Pain from Infections(Doctor said when examined I would have been Dead in another day) which I would have traded for The Equal Time of any Terrible Mind/Heart ripping Verbal/Mental Abuse.

That being said: yep, although I remember the Physical Pain, The Emotional Pains of Life last a Lifetime as said so eloquently by previous posters.

Maybe they flow out of us the very moments we take our Last Breath and We get The Beautiful Emotional High of The Light which makes us Forget All The Pains of The Lifetime Lived. Or Not.

iWorm 'em.

I think we all miss what is happening to society. Because of talk radio where the callers and shock jocks each take positions where Godwin's law is automatic, it rubs off on us and desensitizes us to another phrase of old, "The pen is mightier than the sword."

When we use electronic communications we assume the person(s) on the other end are the same as a talk radio shock jock. We go beyond the bounds of civil discourse. We injure. We don't even know we do this. It is one of the reasons there are Mods here, to keep things civil.

This is a subject that needs time in the classroom. I think they used to teach debate. I think they also had citizenship grades.

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Words can hit harder than fists.

This does not justify fists, nor does it justify words of cruelty.

It is another tangent completely that we have college students that do not know how to cross the street, and believe diagonally through the intersection is just fine and dandy, ride bicycles every which way and the complain about the cars not giving them room.

Broken bones usually heal. Not so broken spirits. Speak gently.

To me your responce is sad....If someone does have self esteem, words should just be words...People need to learn not to be broken by words. I seriously doubt there is anything I have not been called by one person or another, have gotten myself into all kinds of situations but have never let others CONTROL me by their words...If someone calls you a name and you respond they caused your reaction. When my best friend and I were kids we would go to a party with a mission...We would plan a situation and make everyone react the way we had planned in advance. It usaully worked!

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If someone does have self esteem, words should just be words...

What about those who don't have self esteem?