Am I seeing things or did the Server Status page lock up at exactly the same time as the day before (23:50 UTC)?

Gruß,
Gundolf

Am I seeing things or did the Server Status page lock up at exactly the same time as the day before (23:50 UTC)?

Gruß,
Gundolf

Can't say about what time the status page locked, but downloads died about 20:00 PDT/03:00 UTC versus 19:00 PDT/02:00 UTC the day before.

Cleaning crew issues again?

Has Matt said if they got all the flakey drives on jocelyn fixed?
Looks like we are still running everything off the primary database.

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Am I seeing things or did the Server Status page lock up at exactly the same time as the day before (23:50 UTC)?

no, you must not change your mind and believe in ghosts :-). was wondering about it too.

and additional since 9:40 UTC, i cannot upload anymore; can also only hope, this was the cleaning staff :-/, but i dont believe in ghosts too ...

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Am I seeing things or did the Server Status page lock up at exactly the same time as the day before (23:50 UTC)?

Gruß,
Gundolf

Welcome to Groundhog Day! :)

Can we perhaps get a more eyecatching title on the next panic thread?
something on the lines of 'up-/downloads or reports not working? look here!' ?

Or I just write something I can copy/paste into each new 'I can't upload/download/report/why isn't this working' thread...

Welcome to Groundhog Day! :)

Am I allowed to bury under my blankets for the next 24 days?

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Carola
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Bah. I have my preferences set to connect every 10 days and maintain an additional 10 days of work for a total of a 20 day cache. Since I've been using a 20 day cache, I've only ran out of work once, during the big outage late September to mid October last year.

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I thought we were asked not to have caches that big as it adversely affected our wingmen?

Some of us keep asking "be kind to the servers, please?", but not everyone chooses to listen.

I thought we were asked not to have caches that big as it adversely affected our wingmen?

I carry a big cache, but I don't think my wingmen have to wait very long.....

Steve

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You can´t generalize that.
I can download my units when the load on the servers is low.

Evenso it makes no difference i download 100 units a day no matter whats actually in my queue.

Just one example.

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I thought we were asked not to have caches that big as it adversely affected our wingmen?

I carry a big cache, but I don't think my wingmen have to wait very long.....

Steve

It isn't the size that matters, but the duration (latency).

If people hold on to tasks for 20 days, as Ellis suggested, than the workunit datafile has to be held on the server for 20 days, in case it's needed again for a resend. Often longer, because at that setting shorties will jump the queue and delay mid-AR even longer.

Try multiplying up 50,000 results per hour, x 0.5 for WUs, x 24, x 20, x 360 KiB. Then do the same for Astropulse, and add the two results. Then ask yourself what happens when a hard disk fails.

I maintain work for 7 days, but usually takes me twice that to get through all the WU's as I don't always have BOINC running (mostly while I am at PC). I also run BETA, with just about the same cache. This is of course the first time I ran into any problem.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, AFAIK the max WU cache is 10 days (also if you set 10 + 10).


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26/05/2011 18:00:29 |  | [work_fetch] target work buffer: 864000.00 + 864000.00 sec

Looks suspiciously like 10 + 10 = 20 to me.

I found running 2+2.5 is more than enough these days.

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Carola
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I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages!

Yes Sutaru, I also think 10 days is the maximum. But even so, for me, with 5 gpus running 24/7, 5 days of cache is more than enough.

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26/05/2011 18:00:29 |  | [work_fetch] target work buffer: 864000.00 + 864000.00 sec

Looks suspiciously like 10 + 10 = 20 to me.

I found running 2+2.5 is more than enough these days.

Thanks.

In past I was running 'additional' 10 days & 'always connected' (no entry), all was fine (nearly always first in first out (FIFO) mode).

If I set every 10 days connected and 0 days additonal, always if shorties came down, BOINC gone in 'high priority mode' (no work request until calculated).

So I guess it will never happen (if 10 + 10) that BOINC will have full 20 days WUs. Yes/No?

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BTW.

News subforum : work generation temporarily halted

We are having difficulties with one of our storage servers. Until we fix this we are unable to generate new work.

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Yes Sutaru, I also think 10 days is the maximum. But even so, for me, with 5 gpus running 24/7, 5 days of cache is more than enough.

IIRC, so it was in past, max 10 days.

Maybe also if you set 10 + 10 in the prefs (and BOINC ask for), the S@h scheduler server send you max 10 days..


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Maybe if you set 10 + 10 in the prefs and let it run for a while with the appropriate logging set in cc_config, I can convince you that

864000.00 + 864000.00 sec

equals a 10 + 10 = 20 day cache?

If you actually manage to grab 20 days worth of tasks is a different question but BOINC WILL try to get as much as you ask for.

And that's without going into the deeper parts of client state to tamper with how much you'll be asking for.

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Carola
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I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages!

I´m surprised at least one got it.

In reality its a little more complicated but you can get 20 days worth.

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If I set every 10 days connected and 0 days additonal, always if shorties came down, BOINC gone in 'high priority mode' (no work request until calculated).

Yes. If you get too greedy, sometimes you don't get anything at all. That happens in life, too - often for children, but hopefully most of them grow out of it.

Now, can we get back on topic, please? We're supposed to be panicking about the SERVER'S problems, not our own.

I see from the front page that

We are having difficulties with one of our storage servers. Until we fix this we are unable to generate new work.

Please help the servers by not requesting, or holding on to, more work than you really need. Don't fight against them.

My cache is set for 8.5 days, and if I set it larger, BOINC replies that I have reached the maximum amount of tasks. There are about 6000 wu's at any given time, and they are never, ever returned late. Based on the last two large outages, I will run dry fairly close to the 8.5 days, sometimes a little less. Evey time I consider lowering my cache, we get another multi-day outage, so I've settled where I am.

Steve

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