Stranger Still (Mar 17 2011)

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Matt Lebofsky Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1375 Credit: 74,079 RAC: 0	Message 1087895 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 23:01:18 UTC
	I think we'd all like more consistency, but given the random nature of raw data collection, delivery, and processing, we're always going to hit period where workunits are scarce, and that's okay. Part of the delivery requires humans regularly swapping drives in docks, so we're constrained by work hours and sleep and such. Even when new data is brought on line it take about 4 hours before the first file is "radar cleansed" and made available to the splitters, which then take however long to convert the clean raw data into workunits. In short, the feedback loop isn't so great, so an even flow is difficult. We had a few more gremlins to play with since yesterday's power outage recovery. Weird stuff involving idmapd of all things, which never ever gave us problems before. It's dying for some reason on a couple systems, messing with file ownerships, though with mostly cosmetic results. Outside of that, looks like Eric has been rolling out the new SETI@home client in beta. It's been a while since we had one of those. - Matt ____________ -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude
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Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 3365 Credit: 25,951,744 RAC: 1,177	Message 1087908 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 23:58:12 UTC - in response to Message 1087895.
	Thanks for the update Matt, Claggy
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Jeff Mercer Send message Joined: 14 Aug 08 Posts: 89 Credit: 60,291 RAC: 0	Message 1087928 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 1:08:08 UTC
	Hi Matt and thanks for the update. No problems here. Workunits are coming in and going out as smooth as silk. The project is running better that ever for me. Thank you, and all the people that keep things going.
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gerarddo Send message Joined: 23 Apr 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 11,379,612 RAC: 0	Message 1088503 - Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 18:10:47 UTC
	Thanks for the update Matt Gerarddo ____________
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hobo Send message Joined: 1 Sep 05 Posts: 11 Credit: 716,673 RAC: 0	Message 1088675 - Posted: 20 Mar 2011, 2:34:30 UTC - in response to Message 1087928. Last modified: 20 Mar 2011, 2:36:33 UTC
	In response to the above post that says "No problems here. Workunits are coming in and going out as smooth as silk. " See the "No Work" thread under Number Crunching. Several folks (probably lots of folks) having problems today in getting workunits. ____________
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B-Man Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Feb 01 Posts: 253 Credit: 147,366 RAC: 1	Message 1088706 - Posted: 20 Mar 2011, 4:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 1088675.
	In response to the above post that says "No problems here. Workunits are coming in and going out as smooth as silk. " See the "No Work" thread under Number Crunching. Several folks (probably lots of folks) having problems today in getting workunits. It is also the weekend and SETI has no paid staff on on the weekend. Someone may try unpaid weekend work remotely from home if they feel like it. They may not be able to fix the problem remotely. If the staff is not paid for weekend work they can't do much for us until monday. Before people complain we need to remember that they only have around 5 part time staff for the total staff. They work 40h each but SETI pays for like 1/2 of each persons salary. Often they will if their normal weekend stuff brings them near the lab and they have time they will pop in to quickly "kick" the servers but that is volunteer time so no one will force it. They will get paid time on weekends for thing like AC alarms and other server dies permanently if no one responds alarms. This does not look like that type of problem so relax until monday. ____________
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1490 Credit: 62,719,004 RAC: 87,111	Message 1088709 - Posted: 20 Mar 2011, 4:11:56 UTC - in response to Message 1088675.
	In response to the above post that says "No problems here. Workunits are coming in and going out as smooth as silk. " See the "No Work" thread under Number Crunching. Several folks (probably lots of folks) having problems today in getting workunits. So those who complain now are the people that we will know who have no adequate cache set. ;) Cheers. ____________
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bj Send message Joined: 11 Oct 00 Posts: 131 Credit: 47,562,858 RAC: 78,989	Message 1088783 - Posted: 20 Mar 2011, 12:00:35 UTC - in response to Message 1088709.
	Well Well I have a 5 day cache set and still have one computer that has not gotten any new work since Mar 15. See the NO WORK thread. bj ____________
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KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 1595 Credit: 4,429,376 RAC: 4,225	Message 1088826 - Posted: 20 Mar 2011, 16:28:54 UTC
	In addition to the "no work" problem, the "Server Status" page hasn't updated since 0020 UTC on 19 March. ____________ .
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Corvid Send message Joined: 31 Oct 05 Posts: 11 Credit: 2,477,102 RAC: 5,946	Message 1089064 - Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 14:37:35 UTC
	Well hopefully we will get more work units today, I've got 4 left before I'm dry. Any how its nice that this is a problem and we are not experiencing any server failures. Thanks for all the hard work guys. ____________
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Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2688 Credit: 7,688,019 RAC: 23,716	Message 1089091 - Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 16:19:20 UTC - in response to Message 1089064.
	Well hopefully we will get more work units today, I've got 4 left before I'm dry. Any how its nice that this is a problem and we are not experiencing any server failures. Thanks for all the hard work guys. But we are experiencing server failures. From SETI main page: Storage Server Issues The server that stores our raw data is down, so we cannot produce more work at the moment. We hope to know more by Monday. The raw data is backed up. 20 Mar 2011 \| 23:50:51 UTC ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
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Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 3907 Credit: 359,795 RAC: 816	Message 1089111 - Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 17:23:59 UTC
	As of 21 March 2011 1700 UTC, the server status page was back online and updated, but the Work Unit numbers were 64 hours old. Still. that's progress. ____________ Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired
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Jeff Mercer Send message Joined: 14 Aug 08 Posts: 89 Credit: 60,291 RAC: 0	Message 1089236 - Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 22:52:21 UTC
	Yep... you people are right. No work units. Things were going so smooth for me, that I didn't bother checking. I'm on my last workunit right now. Saw the post on the website this morning. Ah well.... they will fix it. They always do ! Can't expect the crew to work on weekends !! ;) Anyway, can't really gripe about it. Things ran great for several weeks, so, once again. I sit and wait.
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 164 Credit: 43,583,827 RAC: 90,988	Message 1089261 - Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 1:00:48 UTC
	Just looked at the server status page and see some MB splitters running with some results to send, contrary to the UPDATE saying the splitters would stay offline until tomorrow after the normal outage. I also see the Cricket graph showing outbound traffic at the normal rate. So some good news for all who are out of work. Appreciate what the staff has been able to do with the server failure. ____________
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Jeff Mercer Send message Joined: 14 Aug 08 Posts: 89 Credit: 60,291 RAC: 0	Message 1089273 - Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 1:55:42 UTC
	Well MERCY sakes. Someone must be working in the lab ! I just checked on my last workunit and LO and BEHOLD... I have received more work ! If someone IS working, then I just want to say, THANK YOU !! Looks like I won't have to sit and wait after all ! I'm telling you, those guys are dedicated.
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