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Message 1087982 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 4:16:11 UTC - in response to Message 1087966.

To further expand your comment, life "as we know it" is based on carbon. I recall memories of an old Star Trek episode where Spock did a "mind meld" with a silicon based life form that was basically a rock, with an undetermined moethod of propulsion.

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Message 1087983 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 4:17:54 UTC - in response to Message 1087904.

>>Define it without using the term "Time"<<

A unit of measurment.

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Message 1088120 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 17:05:01 UTC - in response to Message 1087983.

Measurement of what.

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Message 1088156 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 18:42:58 UTC

@ CWBURCH Ahem "The Andromeda Galaxy is 26 light years away" I know a lot of people type their posts in a bit of a rush but I could not let this stand.The Andromeda Galaxy is more like 26 Million Light years away
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Message 1088158 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 18:52:19 UTC - in response to Message 1087966.

interesting, life is after all based on carbon which is one of most common elements in the universe; and amino acids, sugars, have been identified in nebulae. Other elements, like ammonia, oxygen, helium, etc, are all pervasive in the universe; so intelligent life on another planet might not look like humans facially, but that life form will be bipedal.

Bipedalism is not a prerequisite of intelligence a case could be made for say a hexapedal species reaching the state of being known as intelligence or any amount of appendages.
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Message 1088170 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 19:53:05 UTC - in response to Message 1088156.

Yup. I stand corrected. I usually type it as "26M Light Years", but was thinking in smaller terms at the time. :)

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Message 1088178 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 20:13:54 UTC
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Would anyone here like to take a stab at the original question?

Ancient Aliens - What's the proof?

What would be 100% confirmed proof that Ancient Aliens, or God, or Jesus, or Allah, or whoever, put human beings here on planet Earth? And that is how and why we have all these ancient monuments like the Egyptian pyramids and other stuff all over the world!

Read the first post to refresh your mind!

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Message 1088291 - Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 1:13:00 UTC

I'm sure folks have heard of the skull referred to as the "Star Child". I can't recall the details of when/where it was found. I've seen a program about it on either the history channel or Science channel one, I think. If the Spirit or Opportunity rovers on Mars were to un-earth (un-mars?) a similar skull, that would be enough to convince me that the plant was at one time inhabited by what would be our interstellar ancestors. The next question would be, where did those ancestors come from?

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Message 1088404 - Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 13:55:09 UTC - in response to Message 1088158.

Agree that being bipedal is not a requirement for inteligent life, but is a perhaps the most ideal life form design that mother nature might have for the development of inteligence.

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Message 1088406 - Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 14:10:53 UTC

The distance to the Andromeda Galaxy is about 2 million, 500 thousand light years. Michael

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Message 1088440 - Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 15:39:06 UTC - in response to Message 1088406.

I stand corrected and plead ignorance of all charges.
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Message 1089027 - Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 6:14:13 UTC

Point to ponder: Dogon people of east africa. They worship their ancient gods that originated in the sirius star system. But they knew that this star system Sitius has a dim companion star only recently found it also has an ellipitical orbit. In their rituals they show Sirius as the primary star with their gods from the dim star system with an ellipical orbit. Mind you this star is not visible with the naked eye. How would a people basically stone hunter gathers lost in modern times. How could they possibly know this?
Their gods are belived to reptilian....

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Message 1089038 - Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 10:15:42 UTC - in response to Message 1089027.
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Some Jesuit missionary told them. Jesuits are good astronomers, they manage the Specula Vaticana in Castel Gandolfo and a two mirror telescope in Arizona.
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Message 1089065 - Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 14:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 1089027.

I do believe there has been some serious doubt about what the Dogon actually knew, and there seems to be concensus that the Dogon learned about Sirius B and it's celestial bodies from Marcel Griaule, and not through divine knowledge or from ancient alien beings.

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Message 1089475 - Posted: 23 Mar 2011, 1:16:28 UTC - in response to Message 1088156.

@ CWBURCH Ahem "The Andromeda Galaxy is 26 light years away" I know a lot of people type their posts in a bit of a rush but I could not let this stand.The Andromeda Galaxy is more like 26 Million Light years away

Ahem yourself! ;) Now you’re overshooting, but only by one order of magnitude, which I suppose is an improvement on the previous figure, six orders too small …

Anyway, the current estimate of M31’s distance is 2.6 million LY. At 26 million LY a galaxy would be well outside the Local Group—but still not very far as galaxies go.
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Message 1090169 - Posted: 25 Mar 2011, 1:44:31 UTC
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OK guys, let me throw this scenario at you;

Lets say next week some archaeologist doing some excavation at a site in Egypt digs up a new mini pyramid that they did not know about before. So the archaeologist uncovers loads of inscriptions on the stones that are all DNA double-helix's. When they combine all the DNA double-helix's, they make up the human genome. Wouldn't that be proof! A 4000 year old pyramid with the human genome carved into it?

I think hat would be 100% proof that Ancient Aliens were involved in humans being here on planet earth today. It would definitely throw a spanner in the works for the Charles Darwin fans. What do you think?

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Message 1090257 - Posted: 25 Mar 2011, 12:15:54 UTC - in response to Message 1090169.

I would think that before we make assumptions, we should find the facts first. Ok, we found a double-helix of the human genome in a pyramid. How did it get there? Who or what put it there? Why did they put it there?

Part of doing actual science is finding the answers to questions. It isn't about jumping to conclusions and making unproven assumptions. You may as well said "God put the double-helix there and it's His temple" and you're essentially making the same argument without proof.

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Message 1090632 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 15:59:41 UTC

Wouldn't that be proof! A 4000 year old pyramid with the human genome carved into it?

In my opinion no it would only be proof of a visitation "4000 years ago"or when ever.
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Message 1091022 - Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 23:11:26 UTC - in response to Message 1090632.
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Wouldn't that be proof! A 4000 year old pyramid with the human genome carved into it?

In my opinion no it would only be proof of a visitation "4000 years ago"or when ever.

Yes, thats my very point! Todays science says we evolved, got clever and started building pyrimads and other stuff.

So for arguments sake, lets say we did find a 4000 year old carved picture of DNA in a pyrimad, wouldn't that change the whole ball game for science? And our theory that human beings "evolving from apes"? It would be proof somebody from another planet had something to do with us humans being here.

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Message 1091074 - Posted: 28 Mar 2011, 2:41:30 UTC - in response to Message 1091022.

Wouldn't that be proof! A 4000 year old pyramid with the human genome carved into it?

In my opinion no it would only be proof of a visitation "4000 years ago"or when ever.

Yes, thats my very point! Todays science says we evolved, got clever and started building pyrimads and other stuff.

So for arguments sake, lets say we did find a 4000 year old carved picture of DNA in a pyrimad, wouldn't that change the whole ball game for science? And our theory that human beings "evolving from apes"? It would be proof somebody from another planet had something to do with us humans being here.

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That's not definitive proof.

Firstly, humans did not "evolve from apes". We evolved from a branch that was related to apes.

Secondly, it could mean a plethora of things. We would need to ask more questions about it before assuming it was left there by someone from another planet.


Without knowing it, your question essentially boils down to "When is it OK to assume something based upon a finding that contradicts or defies what we currently know?". The answer for any real scientist is that it's never really OK to assume. It only brings up more questions that must be answered, through hypothesizing and peer review until we come up with a solid theory.

In science, even theories can be proven wrong if we find that the original theory was based upon a false premise or assumption. Technically even gravity is just a theory. But at least we keep trying to find the answer and challenging assumptions because if you ever want to be certain, it's never OK to assume.

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