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Message 1085902 - Posted: 11 Mar 2011, 1:37:33 UTC - in response to Message 1085589.  

I only took time to look at the first one.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=708281634
You have completed it, it is in fact currently top of the list in your pending.
for that computer.


here is my pending-list:
Pending credit
Result ID Workunit ID Host ID Claimed credit
1829926270 706965832 5844822 144.49
1830151016 707303991 5844822 127.94
1830857418 707628661 5844822 147.73
1831199443 707785306 5844822 106.48
1831372102 707678226 5844822 39.47
1831434904 707890368 5844822 104.28
1831606520 707968391 5844822 106.49

708281634 is not in there


Still there today. Now on page 2 of your pending. Still waiting for validation.
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Message 1085939 - Posted: 11 Mar 2011, 2:44:09 UTC

Still there today. Now on page 2 of your pending. Still waiting for validation.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5844822&offset=20&show_names=0&state=0&appid=

Thats not the list i am referring to.
I mean that list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/pending.php

and its not in there
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Message 1086737 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 14:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 1086700.  


18 hours later and still asleep at the helm. Bad karma....

Hehe


My pendings "total" now below 100K for the first time in what seems like (and probably is) forever. Hope this gets fixed soon, so I can have a nice high pendings again.

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Message 1087026 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 16:27:53 UTC - in response to Message 1086737.  


18 hours later and still asleep at the helm. Bad karma....

Hehe


My pendings "total" now below 100K for the first time in what seems like (and probably is) forever. Hope this gets fixed soon, so I can have a nice high pendings again.


LMAO. And here I thought my pendings were dropping because I had finally got great wingman. Im so depressed to find out thats not true:)
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Message 1087552 - Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 22:10:04 UTC

New data here:

After the power outage startup, my two machines reported in (Update button hit). #1 reported about 260 WUs; credits went up 34K immediately (a little high, but in the ballpark). #2 reported 350+ WUs, credit went up a thrilling ONE K, pendings didn't go up at all. It's been more than a few minutes now. So that means about 35-40K of RAC is not showing up.

What gives? And why from just one machine, and not both - or either...very inconsistent behavior I would say.
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Message 1087560 - Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 22:25:57 UTC - in response to Message 1087552.  

New data here:

After the power outage startup, my two machines reported in (Update button hit). #1 reported about 260 WUs; credits went up 34K immediately (a little high, but in the ballpark). #2 reported 350+ WUs, credit went up a thrilling ONE K, pendings didn't go up at all. It's been more than a few minutes now. So that means about 35-40K of RAC is not showing up.

What gives? And why from just one machine, and not both - or either...very inconsistent behavior I would say.


If all the stuff you reported wasn't processed before the system was brought down then it might have been be at the back of the queue. Right now "Replica seconds behind master 13,406." Until that is closer to 0 expecting things to be all synced up is just silly.
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Message 1087598 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 0:07:38 UTC - in response to Message 1087560.  

If all the stuff you reported wasn't processed before the system was brought down then it might have been be at the back of the queue. Right now "Replica seconds behind master 13,406." Until that is closer to 0 expecting things to be all synced up is just silly.


Good point - I hadn't looked at replica seconds behind.

I'll wait at least 3 hours then before complaining again!

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Message 1087657 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 3:58:32 UTC - in response to Message 1087598.  

If all the stuff you reported wasn't processed before the system was brought down then it might have been be at the back of the queue. Right now "Replica seconds behind master 13,406." Until that is closer to 0 expecting things to be all synced up is just silly.


Good point - I hadn't looked at replica seconds behind.

I'll wait at least 3 hours then before complaining again!

Well Jocelyn seems to have something disagreeing with her atm as she's now 22,645 seconds behind and still blowing out further so she doesn't look like catching up any time soon at this rate. ;)

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Message 1087665 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 4:17:16 UTC
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I'm not one to complain, but...

Almost 12 hours after the restart, with the replica 21,000 seconds behind the master, there is still a difference between the Tasks shown as "Awaiting Validation" (Pending) on the "All Tasks" view and the Tasks listed on the "Pending Credit" view.

From my account home page, clicking on "Tasks" shows 3 Tasks in Progress, 6 "Awaiting Validation" and 1 "Completed and Validated". If I switch this page's view to "Pending", it shows only the 6 "Awaiting Validation" Tasks.

If from my account page I click on "Pending Credit", I only get 4 Tasks, all completed before 6 March. The 2 most recently completed but not yet validated are not listed here.

THAT is the problem people have been trying to point out for the last week. I wasn't seeing it until today because all the tasks I completed between 6 March and Tuesday's shutdown validated immediately (my wingmen were faster than I on those Tasks). But the 2 Tasks I reported this morning show on "All Tasks" but not on "Pending Credit".
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Message 1087701 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 6:06:08 UTC - in response to Message 1087665.  

Well a couple hours makes a difference as its now down to 4,500 seconds behind so the old girl must of got over her problem.

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Message 1087711 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 7:31:54 UTC - in response to Message 1087701.  

Well a couple hours makes a difference as its now down to 4,500 seconds behind so the old girl must of got over her problem.

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Sorry, the replica being behind the master does not seem to have anything to do with this problem.
Sten-Arne and others were seeing it before this last outage, when the replica was 0 seconds behind the master, and when the replica was off-line.

Something to do with how our account pages display Pending Credits is set wrong.

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Message 1087769 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 12:41:01 UTC - in response to Message 1087711.  

Well a couple hours makes a difference as its now down to 4,500 seconds behind so the old girl must of got over her problem.

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Sorry, the replica being behind the master does not seem to have anything to do with this problem.
Sten-Arne and others were seeing it before this last outage, when the replica was 0 seconds behind the master, and when the replica was off-line.

Something to do with how our account pages display Pending Credits is set wrong.


jravin's post I replied to was regarding missing credit for returned tasks. As I see mine are updating shortly after reporting complete tasks these seems to be all synced up, but the Pending Credit account view is still in the same state as after the 8th.

In the Tech News posts by Matt he has replied to other issues asked in those threads, but not the ones regarding the pending list. So at the moment I would guess that things might be working as expected or are being looked into right now. Could be that since everything was running off of the one server they want to get this down to 0 for everyone before switching back to the replica.
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Message 1087914 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 0:12:36 UTC - in response to Message 1087769.  


jravin's post I replied to was regarding missing credit for returned tasks. As I see mine are updating shortly after reporting complete tasks these seems to be all synced up, but the Pending Credit account view is still in the same state as after the 8th.

In the Tech News posts by Matt he has replied to other issues asked in those threads, but not the ones regarding the pending list. So at the moment I would guess that things might be working as expected or are being looked into right now. Could be that since everything was running off of the one server they want to get this down to 0 for everyone before switching back to the replica.


I seen the same thing, since the last outage or before. Actually I saw the same thing happen after the last major outage where I would finish work and upload it and mysteriously the credit for those units just disappeared along with the WU's. Go figure, it appears to have sorted itself out, except giving me credit still don't have an answer on that, but it looks like I'm getting credit like I should. However the pending list is not updating. My machine normally keep me loaded up with 100-150k in pendings and I'm now down to 40k and dropping hourly. So I dunno.

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Message 1088078 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 14:34:08 UTC

More evidence, if needed:

One of my machines just updated, reported in 110 WUs.

Total credit went up about 6K.
Pending credit did not change at all.
Replica only 42 seconds behind.
I waited a few minutes, but no change in Pending.

I would say this should be looked into, just in case WUs are really getting lost. Can someone please pass the word up the food chain?
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Message 1088084 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 14:58:22 UTC

I am having the same problem, I usually have about 60k pending wu , but now only 10k and the last wu reported was on march 8.
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Message 1088114 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 16:59:05 UTC - in response to Message 1088078.  

I would say this should be looked into, just in case WUs are really getting lost. Can someone please pass the word up the food chain?

Look at your task list, and filter it to 'pending' only. If the tasks are there (making due allowance for replica backlog, if any), then nothing's lost and you don't need to worry.

This issue seems to be specifically limited to the "Pending credit" link direct from our account pages. Sorry, but it's a fairly small cosmetic issue, at most - and I doubt the project staff will view it as high priority. If it really matters, by all means point it out to Matt or one of the others - but if you do, explain clearly what it is that you want doing. Remember that Matt, with a RAC of 0.01, knows practically nothing about the client end of things, and cares even less - his job, and full-time attention, are on the servers - which is plenty enough to keep him busy.
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Message 1088163 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 19:00:03 UTC - in response to Message 1088114.  

I would say this should be looked into, just in case WUs are really getting lost. Can someone please pass the word up the food chain?

Look at your task list, and filter it to 'pending' only.


Problem is, my task list is huge, as my RAC is roughly 45K/day. Looking through it would be a killer. I don't have a machine that (ideally) does a handfull of WUs/day. Didn't someone at the top of the thread report this "effect" from such a machine?
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Message 1088164 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 19:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 1088163.  

I would say this should be looked into, just in case WUs are really getting lost. Can someone please pass the word up the food chain?

Look at your task list, and filter it to 'pending' only.


Problem is, my task list is huge, as my RAC is roughly 45K/day. Looking through it would be a killer. I don't have a machine that (ideally) does a handful of WUs/day. Didn't someone at the top of the thread report this "effect" from such a machine?

Yes the author of the thread observed this as they do a limited amount of work. Which is actually a good thing. It probably would have taken a lot longer to find out what was actually occurring otherwise. As they currently have 11 pending tasks across 2 machines it is easy to see what is happening.

Knowing that the list is not getting new entries added you can look at the pending tasks on a machine. Then select anything that was done after the 8th. Then looking at your user pending list see that task has not been added to it.
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Yes the author of the thread observed this as they do a limited amount of work. Which is actually a good thing. It probably would have taken a lot longer to find out what was actually occurring otherwise. As they currently have 11 pending tasks across 2 machines it is easy to see what is happening.

Knowing that the list is not getting new entries added you can look at the pending tasks on a machine. Then select anything that was done after the 8th. Then looking at your user pending list see that task has not been added to it.


Yeah all mine, as well as other, are appearing in the pending lists in tasks. I want a point estimate though! lol. Seems almost like someone forgot to turn on the script for it? It's still reading the database for the ones there but it isn't scanning on page load to generate a new view like it did before.

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Message 1088195 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 21:06:58 UTC - in response to Message 1088168.  


Yes the author of the thread observed this as they do a limited amount of work. Which is actually a good thing. It probably would have taken a lot longer to find out what was actually occurring otherwise. As they currently have 11 pending tasks across 2 machines it is easy to see what is happening.

Knowing that the list is not getting new entries added you can look at the pending tasks on a machine. Then select anything that was done after the 8th. Then looking at your user pending list see that task has not been added to it.


Yeah all mine, as well as other, are appearing in the pending lists in tasks. I want a point estimate though! lol. Seems almost like someone forgot to turn on the script for it? It's still reading the database for the ones there but it isn't scanning on page load to generate a new view like it did before.


You don't always get what you want & you don't always want what you get.

Since new records are not being add, but validated tasks are being removed it could be several things. The main issues is that we are perceiving something as being broken. As there have been no statements either way I going to figure they are doing other things that have higher priority or they are cleaning up this table on the one server.
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