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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
I only took time to look at the first one. Still there today. Now on page 2 of your pending. Still waiting for validation. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5844822&offset=20&show_names=0&state=0&appid= Janice |
peak Send message Joined: 6 Mar 11 Posts: 31 Credit: 39,440 RAC: 0 |
Still there today. Now on page 2 of your pending. Still waiting for validation. Thats not the list i am referring to. I mean that list: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/pending.php and its not in there |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
My pendings "total" now below 100K for the first time in what seems like (and probably is) forever. Hope this gets fixed soon, so I can have a nice high pendings again. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
LMAO. And here I thought my pendings were dropping because I had finally got great wingman. Im so depressed to find out thats not true:) [/quote] Old James |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
New data here: After the power outage startup, my two machines reported in (Update button hit). #1 reported about 260 WUs; credits went up 34K immediately (a little high, but in the ballpark). #2 reported 350+ WUs, credit went up a thrilling ONE K, pendings didn't go up at all. It's been more than a few minutes now. So that means about 35-40K of RAC is not showing up. What gives? And why from just one machine, and not both - or either...very inconsistent behavior I would say. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
New data here: If all the stuff you reported wasn't processed before the system was brought down then it might have been be at the back of the queue. Right now "Replica seconds behind master 13,406." Until that is closer to 0 expecting things to be all synced up is just silly. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
If all the stuff you reported wasn't processed before the system was brought down then it might have been be at the back of the queue. Right now "Replica seconds behind master 13,406." Until that is closer to 0 expecting things to be all synced up is just silly. Good point - I hadn't looked at replica seconds behind. I'll wait at least 3 hours then before complaining again! |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
If all the stuff you reported wasn't processed before the system was brought down then it might have been be at the back of the queue. Right now "Replica seconds behind master 13,406." Until that is closer to 0 expecting things to be all synced up is just silly. Well Jocelyn seems to have something disagreeing with her atm as she's now 22,645 seconds behind and still blowing out further so she doesn't look like catching up any time soon at this rate. ;) Cheers. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
I'm not one to complain, but... Almost 12 hours after the restart, with the replica 21,000 seconds behind the master, there is still a difference between the Tasks shown as "Awaiting Validation" (Pending) on the "All Tasks" view and the Tasks listed on the "Pending Credit" view. From my account home page, clicking on "Tasks" shows 3 Tasks in Progress, 6 "Awaiting Validation" and 1 "Completed and Validated". If I switch this page's view to "Pending", it shows only the 6 "Awaiting Validation" Tasks. If from my account page I click on "Pending Credit", I only get 4 Tasks, all completed before 6 March. The 2 most recently completed but not yet validated are not listed here. THAT is the problem people have been trying to point out for the last week. I wasn't seeing it until today because all the tasks I completed between 6 March and Tuesday's shutdown validated immediately (my wingmen were faster than I on those Tasks). But the 2 Tasks I reported this morning show on "All Tasks" but not on "Pending Credit". Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well a couple hours makes a difference as its now down to 4,500 seconds behind so the old girl must of got over her problem. Cheers. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Well a couple hours makes a difference as its now down to 4,500 seconds behind so the old girl must of got over her problem. Sorry, the replica being behind the master does not seem to have anything to do with this problem. Sten-Arne and others were seeing it before this last outage, when the replica was 0 seconds behind the master, and when the replica was off-line. Something to do with how our account pages display Pending Credits is set wrong. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Well a couple hours makes a difference as its now down to 4,500 seconds behind so the old girl must of got over her problem. jravin's post I replied to was regarding missing credit for returned tasks. As I see mine are updating shortly after reporting complete tasks these seems to be all synced up, but the Pending Credit account view is still in the same state as after the 8th. In the Tech News posts by Matt he has replied to other issues asked in those threads, but not the ones regarding the pending list. So at the moment I would guess that things might be working as expected or are being looked into right now. Could be that since everything was running off of the one server they want to get this down to 0 for everyone before switching back to the replica. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
-BeNt- Send message Joined: 17 Oct 99 Posts: 1234 Credit: 10,116,112 RAC: 0 |
I seen the same thing, since the last outage or before. Actually I saw the same thing happen after the last major outage where I would finish work and upload it and mysteriously the credit for those units just disappeared along with the WU's. Go figure, it appears to have sorted itself out, except giving me credit still don't have an answer on that, but it looks like I'm getting credit like I should. However the pending list is not updating. My machine normally keep me loaded up with 100-150k in pendings and I'm now down to 40k and dropping hourly. So I dunno. Traveling through space at ~67,000mph! |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
More evidence, if needed: One of my machines just updated, reported in 110 WUs. Total credit went up about 6K. Pending credit did not change at all. Replica only 42 seconds behind. I waited a few minutes, but no change in Pending. I would say this should be looked into, just in case WUs are really getting lost. Can someone please pass the word up the food chain? |
Proyecto Unity Send message Joined: 13 Mar 03 Posts: 9 Credit: 12,179,572 RAC: 0 |
I am having the same problem, I usually have about 60k pending wu , but now only 10k and the last wu reported was on march 8. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I would say this should be looked into, just in case WUs are really getting lost. Can someone please pass the word up the food chain? Look at your task list, and filter it to 'pending' only. If the tasks are there (making due allowance for replica backlog, if any), then nothing's lost and you don't need to worry. This issue seems to be specifically limited to the "Pending credit" link direct from our account pages. Sorry, but it's a fairly small cosmetic issue, at most - and I doubt the project staff will view it as high priority. If it really matters, by all means point it out to Matt or one of the others - but if you do, explain clearly what it is that you want doing. Remember that Matt, with a RAC of 0.01, knows practically nothing about the client end of things, and cares even less - his job, and full-time attention, are on the servers - which is plenty enough to keep him busy. |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
I would say this should be looked into, just in case WUs are really getting lost. Can someone please pass the word up the food chain? Problem is, my task list is huge, as my RAC is roughly 45K/day. Looking through it would be a killer. I don't have a machine that (ideally) does a handfull of WUs/day. Didn't someone at the top of the thread report this "effect" from such a machine? |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I would say this should be looked into, just in case WUs are really getting lost. Can someone please pass the word up the food chain? Yes the author of the thread observed this as they do a limited amount of work. Which is actually a good thing. It probably would have taken a lot longer to find out what was actually occurring otherwise. As they currently have 11 pending tasks across 2 machines it is easy to see what is happening. Knowing that the list is not getting new entries added you can look at the pending tasks on a machine. Then select anything that was done after the 8th. Then looking at your user pending list see that task has not been added to it. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
-BeNt- Send message Joined: 17 Oct 99 Posts: 1234 Credit: 10,116,112 RAC: 0 |
Yeah all mine, as well as other, are appearing in the pending lists in tasks. I want a point estimate though! lol. Seems almost like someone forgot to turn on the script for it? It's still reading the database for the ones there but it isn't scanning on page load to generate a new view like it did before. Traveling through space at ~67,000mph! |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
You don't always get what you want & you don't always want what you get. Since new records are not being add, but validated tasks are being removed it could be several things. The main issues is that we are perceiving something as being broken. As there have been no statements either way I going to figure they are doing other things that have higher priority or they are cleaning up this table on the one server. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
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