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Message 1101399 - Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 15:57:58 UTC - in response to Message 1101315.
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Hello John

Can I enquire into what particular research has lead you to think along these lines..? I'm interested to see what else can be dredged up from around the world.

There has been a lot of "looking into" E-M and various field propulsion methodologies since the mid 90's, and some of it appears to be results of those old Podkletnov and Ning Li studies and the Boeing papers. Other stuff seems to relate to concepts not yet attainable but the bulk of the main eleven techniques may provide some possibilities and perhaps some cross pollination may help each to attain something that they could not previously achieve. But then again it seems to be just a matter of time for some things to happen... we just need to have the patience to... wait for it.

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Ahhhhh.....My old friend Enzed, how are you keeping? Good to see you again my friend. We meet again in our favourite place, the SETI science forum.

Enzed, as you know, i am aware of some of the "lifter" experiments you were playing with and i know you have played with other experimental gravity science. So i know your familiar with the physics of the topic.

Enzed, this is just a heads up in advance of whats going to happen in the next few months. I made a monumental breakthrough in my gravity research. You know full well i have been researching this topic as long as you are. Well it seems i have cracked the problem wide open. Its going to take me time to complete the experimental research so i can't say exactly when i will go public with my scientific findings, but i will go public Enzed!! And i also cannot tell you the exact nature of the breakthrough until the research is complete. You know the story Enzed, scientists have to keep quite until they have complete documentation to back up their research.

Enzed you know i'm not a bluffer and i don't live in a science fiction world. I'm a very grounded scientist and my understanding of physics is 100%. This is the real deal Enzed, its the real deal my friend. Within 2 years, there will be UFO's in the sky, but they will be made by ourselves, they will be man-made UFO's. Verticle takeoff without a chemical rocket engine is about to happen, no wings for lift and no hydrogen, helium or hot-air ballons. I have cracked the theoretical "anti-gravity" many of us have only ever dreamed about. I wish i could tell you but i can't, not until the time is right. But i'm very very close to completing the work. I don't have a date but i will go public, most likely in the next month, or two, or three. But if the experiments go against me, it could be a year away, i just can't say.

Another heads up; The stuff about Podkletnov, Ning Li and Boeing discovering something. Its way off the mark!! Its only confusing people! You will understand when i release my scientific findings! At this moment in time, i'm not planning to patent the information or the machines that can be built using the technology. My current plan is to just go public and make the information freely available to everyone. I don't have any money to develop the technology so i'm just going to give it away for free. That way, development of the technology will be much faster rather than a single company strangling the market and the development. In the mean time Enzed, you will simply have to believe me cos i'm not ready to go public yet. I'm telling you because i have known you for many years.

Enzed, PM me your email address and i will let you know when i go public.
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Message 1101609 - Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 5:50:40 UTC
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Sorry. Couldn't resist. Carry on. :)

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Message 1101645 - Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 9:35:55 UTC - in response to Message 1101399.

John, you remember me .. my attempts at background obscurity haven’t worked then :-))

Enzed, as you know, i am aware of some of the "lifter" experiments you were playing with and i know you have played with other experimental gravity science. So i know your familiar with the physics of the topic.


Yes; The lifter phase has long since been shelved, we have moved a long way since then, although in and of itself the lifter technology will prove useful for large surface area/very lightweight robotic exploration vehicles to flit over the surface of Mars/ Venus etc. A few Universities have looked at its potential usage and these folk are on track with modified designs, they call it Weav, but in reality it has roots back in the 1930’s work of Townsend Brown. plasma disk.


Enzed, this is just a heads up in advance of whats going to happen in the next few months. I made a monumental breakthrough in my gravity research. You know full well i have been researching this topic as long as you are.


“..yes I know, ..it feels like centuries doesn’t it.. ”


Well it seems i have cracked the problem wide open. Its going to take me time to complete the experimental research so i can't say exactly when i will go public with my scientific findings,


You certainly will need to get ALL the details mapped out and have logs of results etc, make sure you have backups !!! of the data.

I have some anomalous things happening that don’t follow traditional explanations. There is a very slow trickle of info getting out about the main theoretical methodologies.

Another heads up; The stuff about Podkletnov, Ning Li and Boeing discovering something. Its way off the mark!! Its only confusing people!


I have a hunch it’s all just part of the ...bigger picture. We just need to be able to see the jigsaw for what it is, there is a larger picture emerging here and its complex.. but subtle. I am pleased both that your are researching and that you have found a lead into something... keep going my friend.. keep going. I will pm you, we have lots to catch up on.


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enzed


Hello William

I'm not sure of what is being discussed here. A photon can be considered to be a disturbance in the Electro-magnetic makeup of free space. It can also be characterized as an electro-magnetic wave and a particle to boot. Gravity is a disturbance in the fabric of space (warpage). We might also like to think of a "graviton" and I am also sure that we will find gravitational waves which will be ripples in space/time.


Yes, the properties of the fabric of space-time, science has long since moved from the vacuum of space being “empty” to it now being some sort of structure enabling zero point energy to manifest, it looks like some sort of "layer". As such if it has structural properties then the properties may just be able to be manipulated. When we fiddle with gravitational type distortions, we may find that time is also impacted.


As for spacecraft propulsion: Gravity from the large planets (so to speak) has been used to accelerate our wandering spacecraft probes.


Yes very handy to slingshot vehicles onto other destinations.
If we consider the initial factor of gravity holding us “back” on terms of gravitational mass and its related factor inertial mass, and if some form of either gravitational-effect shielding or as you rightly say some form of warping of the gravitational-resultant field can be created then we just may utilize the distortion to our advantage.

If you say "anti-gravity" does one mean levitation or the expansion that seems to exist by a force inherent in the vacuum which is expanding our universe. I would suggest that we give this putative force a new name.


Personally I say levitation and the Universe's expansion are different phenomenon, and I would say that neither are what we are really looking for, and strictly neither should be used in terms of that horrible word anti-gravity, I don't believe that we will find the effect is “anti” anything, rather its a distortion of the fabric of space-time which is also allowed by conventional physics so no rules are broken by a distortion/disturbance on the framework.

Interesting that you say we should give it a new name, there has been many people look at the gravity question and I seem to remember a few equations relating it to relativity floating around. There is however also a quiet but insistent “something else” that is making the math harder to work-out than expected. There are a few people who have studied the electrogravitational field of particle matter.

I also presume that the idea behind this thread is to somehow harness this force ( or gravity or electromagnetism) for use in propulsion. For my money the only appealing pursuit of these concepts would be along the lines of being able to cross magnetic lines of flux--so you could control the direction of thrust. Of course the laws of physics stand in the way and I don't think that they will go away even if we understand more and more about the makeup of our existence.


crossing force lines.. good thought... multiple fields interacting.
Introducing deliberate instabilities into the fabric...yes

Discounting antimatter as I perceive it as just another “hotter” form of rocket technology, there are other subtle and more interesting things lurking in the e-m box;
Bias-drives;
Diametric-drives;
Differential-sail (seti-org type solar sail);
Disjunction-drive;
Gravispatial;
Hyperdrive;
Negative mass drive;
Pitch drive;
Teleportation;
Warp drive – eg Alcubierrie;
Wormhole technique;

Authors : A.C.Holt, Bertolami, Cravens, Mondanese, Musha.t, Podkletnov, Tajmar.M



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Message 1101762 - Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 17:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 1101645.

I have a hunch it’s all just part of the ...bigger picture. We just need to be able to see the jigsaw for what it is, there is a larger picture emerging here and its complex.. but subtle. I am pleased both that your are researching and that you have found a lead into something... keep going my friend.. keep going. I will pm you, we have lots to catch up on.


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Yep, a "bigger picture" will indeed emerge out of the whole thing very soon!

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