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Message 1079684 - Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 12:49:47 UTC

Hello!

I have a quite simple question, but wasn't able to find it on the website: I uploaded 2 or 3 packs and still have 0.00 credits. Can anyone tell me, how the credit-system works or where I can find information on it?

I remember the days before Seti was on Boinc, and there where just the number of packs I've uploaded listed. That's why I'm a bit confused now..

Thanks!
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Message 1079702 - Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 13:46:26 UTC - in response to Message 1079684.
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Welcome to SETI and the boards!

You might have uploaded two or three tasks, but reported is only one of them. Tasks are not deemed "delivered" until they are reported after uploading.

The one reported task is still waiting for validation. That is, your "wingmate", the person that has to process the second copy of your task, has still not reported the result.

So, just be patient a little longer; all will be well. ;-)

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Message 1079704 - Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 13:53:10 UTC - in response to Message 1079702.

Danke Gundolf! Now it's getting clearer and clearer...

Beste Grüße!
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Message 1083646 - Posted: 4 Mar 2011, 21:54:48 UTC - in response to Message 1079704.

I too was wondering about this credit system. So basically, all computations are done twice to check for flaws. This makes sense now. Thank you for asking about this.

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Message 1083712 - Posted: 5 Mar 2011, 1:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 1083646.

I too was wondering about this credit system. So basically, all computations are done twice to check for flaws. This makes sense now. Thank you for asking about this.

All computations are done at least twice. Sometimes tasks are returned late, not returned at all, or returned as errors. In these cases, another task is sent out with the same data. So, while it is always at least 2, it can sometimes reach 6 or 7.

NOTE that there is a scheme being considered to have the most reliable computers be "trusted" and only occasionally get a task with a wingmate.
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Message 1096013 - Posted: 11 Apr 2011, 7:40:46 UTC

I just started with the Seti program. What are the credits for? Thanks
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Message 1096070 - Posted: 11 Apr 2011, 13:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 1096013.

I just started with the Seti program. What are the credits for? Thanks


Bragging rights. They can tell you your relative performance against other machines or other users.

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Message 1097187 - Posted: 14 Apr 2011, 20:20:07 UTC - in response to Message 1096070.

Special note for Canadians: 1,000,000 credits, plus $1.52, will get you a large double double at Timmies.
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Message 1097370 - Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 5:54:06 UTC - in response to Message 1097187.

Hi - I just made an acct for Seti @ home, I downloaded the BOINC. So now what? is it running? When I log out of this site - is Seti at home still working?

How do you get credits?

Thanking you in advance - lf
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Message 1097376 - Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 6:16:56 UTC - in response to Message 1097370.
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I downloaded the BOINC. So now what? is it running?

No, since you didn't attach any computers to the SETI@home project yet.

You have downloaded BOINC, but did you install and run it already?

If you do, you'll be asked by an "attach wizard" to select a project.
[edit]Since you have already created an account, make sure to register as "returning user" when attaching to SETI@home, lest you create a second account.[/edit]

When I log out of this site - is Seti at home still working?

Your BOINC client runs independently from your being logged into this site, but it will need access to the Internet from time to time.

How do you get credits?

By successfully calculating the downloaded tasks and returning the results. That's all done automatically by the BOINC client once attached to a project.

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Message 1097427 - Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 10:03:07 UTC - in response to Message 1097376.

[edit]Since you have already created an account, make sure to register as "returning user" when attaching to SETI@home, lest you create a second account.[/edit]


It is "Yes, existing user" in BOINC 6.10.58


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Message 1103276 - Posted: 4 May 2011, 13:38:29 UTC

I seem to always have 70+ "Completed, waiting for validation" seti@home projects.

Reading threads, it seems I have a "wingman" supposedly also assigned to the same projects but the slug isn't performing, so I'm being penalized.

How to fix this quickly?

I have these projects on a MS Excel spreadsheet (hint! make acct info downloadable) but of course the site has no way to directly contact (email) someone.

I'm not a forum person (i.e. I don't spend much time on these things) so I prefer a direct email response.

Thank you.

Bill
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Message 1103307 - Posted: 4 May 2011, 17:19:45 UTC - in response to Message 1103276.
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No one will answer by email, here is the place for answers so anybody can see it (and learn from or correct the answer if it is wrong).

I seem to always have 70+ "Completed, waiting for validation" seti@home projects.

Some people have 1000+ "Completed, waiting for validation" - this is normal, nothing to worry about.

Anybody's tasks have to be checked against the same computation done on another computer (computers may make errors and it happens all the time, e.g. overheating, bad overclock, bad software)
(Consider this: if somebody calculates your payment for given work wouldn't you calculate the same to check for error?)


Some SETI@home tasks (Not projects) validate in seconds (if your "wingman"'s computer already returned "good" result and your result is similar ("equal"))
and for other tasks may pass months if the WorkUnit have bad luck (if your wingmate's computer crash the task and return error the same task will be send to #3, #4, etc. wingmates)

If you continuously send good results they may (temporarily) add to your "pool" of "Completed, waiting for validation"
but about the same number of your older "waiting" tasks will validate around that time (it take 1-3 months of steady task "crunching" to reach this "equilibrium" condition)


Reading threads, it seems I have a "wingman" supposedly also assigned to the same projects but the slug isn't performing, so I'm being penalized.

You are not "penalized" - if your results are good you will get your credits, just not immediately
(as is for all of us - we get credit when our results are confirmed by another person's computer (for example I may wait for your result)).


How to fix this quickly?

As you see - you can't "fix this quickly (?!)", nobody can - the wait for confirmation is by design.

(I like Formula 1 races but this here is not a race - it is more like of long chain/queue of cargo trucks
- when the first cargo arrives a month after it was sent there are already 100s of trucks on their way over the 1000s km long road)


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Message 1103533 - Posted: 5 May 2011, 13:10:28 UTC - in response to Message 1103307.

got it. thanks.

bill

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