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Message 1077955 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:56:08 UTC - in response to Message 1077676.  

Easy Does It, Matt. Just a Normal Day.


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Message 1077957 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:57:53 UTC

Id say this theme is Supertramp. Great band with some awesome tunes. Back in my day of course:)


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Message 1077958 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:59:18 UTC - in response to Message 1077925.  
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I hope it finishes its 3 remaining Einsteins before they time out.

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What's most likely to happen is that the Einstein WU's will go into "High priority" (AKA EDF [Earliest Deadline First] or "panic mode") and will finish on-time - at the expense of SETI, of course!
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Message 1078276 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 12:35:37 UTC

Hey, stick to the great job!

I'm back to the SETI computations after 5 years with Rosetta and I'm happy things are running good here.


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Message 1078299 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 15:03:40 UTC

great job, my queue is full. i've never seen so much work so quickly!


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Message 1078410 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 19:22:49 UTC

I appreciate all the hard work you guys have been doing on a shoestring budget. However, I am always stuck in the same cycle with this project.

1.) Servers go down for a couple of days.
2.) My machine sits idle for a while.
3.) Servers come back up and are so jammed that I can't get any work units.
4.) Things mostly stabilize.
5.) Go to 1 and repeat.

I have crunched a whole ton of data for this project and would like to continue to do so. Unfortunately, I can never keep my machine continuously loaded. Right now, I am adding more capacity with the addition of 2 more GPUs, but I know they will sit idle much of the time.

What do we need here in order to keep things running smoothly? How much money would "fully fund" this project?

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Message 1078430 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 20:10:03 UTC - in response to Message 1078410.  

I appreciate all the hard work you guys have been doing on a shoestring budget. However, I am always stuck in the same cycle with this project.

1.) Servers go down for a couple of days.
2.) My machine sits idle for a while.
3.) Servers come back up and are so jammed that I can't get any work units.
4.) Things mostly stabilize.
5.) Go to 1 and repeat.

I have crunched a whole ton of data for this project and would like to continue to do so. Unfortunately, I can never keep my machine continuously loaded. Right now, I am adding more capacity with the addition of 2 more GPUs, but I know they will sit idle much of the time.

What do we need here in order to keep things running smoothly? How much money would "fully fund" this project?

I think a fully funded budget is around $500,000+ actual budget for the last few years was around $350,000 so only around $150,000 more per year.

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Message 1078431 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 20:10:11 UTC - in response to Message 1078410.  

Have you tried setting Boinc's preferences / network usage / Connect about [7 days] / Keep additional work [10 days].

That should help keep your machines crunching.

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Message 1078436 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 20:28:35 UTC - in response to Message 1078430.  

I appreciate all the hard work you guys have been doing on a shoestring budget. However, I am always stuck in the same cycle with this project.

1.) Servers go down for a couple of days.
2.) My machine sits idle for a while.
3.) Servers come back up and are so jammed that I can't get any work units.
4.) Things mostly stabilize.
5.) Go to 1 and repeat.

I have crunched a whole ton of data for this project and would like to continue to do so. Unfortunately, I can never keep my machine continuously loaded. Right now, I am adding more capacity with the addition of 2 more GPUs, but I know they will sit idle much of the time.

What do we need here in order to keep things running smoothly? How much money would "fully fund" this project?

I think a fully funded budget is around $500,000+ actual budget for the last few years was around $350,000 so only around $150,000 more per year.


SETI@home Budget - Fall 2010: $548,000.

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Message 1078459 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 21:01:27 UTC

Same for everyone Christian.

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Message 1078476 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 21:30:20 UTC - in response to Message 1078436.  

That was the projected budget if they got that much money to spend.
I don't think they got the money.

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Message 1078480 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 21:33:22 UTC - in response to Message 1078410.  

I appreciate all the hard work you guys have been doing on a shoestring budget. However, I am always stuck in the same cycle with this project.

1.) Servers go down for a couple of days.
2.) My machine sits idle for a while.
3.) Servers come back up and are so jammed that I can't get any work units.
4.) Things mostly stabilize.
5.) Go to 1 and repeat.

I have crunched a whole ton of data for this project and would like to continue to do so. Unfortunately, I can never keep my machine continuously loaded. Right now, I am adding more capacity with the addition of 2 more GPUs, but I know they will sit idle much of the time.

What do we need here in order to keep things running smoothly? How much money would "fully fund" this project?


I'm still crunching units from before the last outage. What are you doing wrong?

A cool million a year would be a nice start.

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Message 1078548 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 23:24:39 UTC - in response to Message 1078431.  

Yeah, I already did that, I also have a ton of WUs on "Download Pending". I just rejoined this project after helping out FAH for a few months, so I probably don't have a high enough average completed for the scheduler to assign me more units. Also, have 1 machine with 6 cores and 4 GPUs (Soon to be 6), so it chews through WUs pretty quick. However, I had all of the aforementioned problems when I was very active before and it appears that nothing has really changed. I restarted the other day and now have 13,000 pending, so hopefully some of that will clear and the scheduler will give me a larger number of work units.

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Message 1078596 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 1:06:53 UTC - in response to Message 1078436.  

I appreciate all the hard work you guys have been doing on a shoestring budget. However, I am always stuck in the same cycle with this project.

1.) Servers go down for a couple of days.
2.) My machine sits idle for a while.
3.) Servers come back up and are so jammed that I can't get any work units.
4.) Things mostly stabilize.
5.) Go to 1 and repeat.

I have crunched a whole ton of data for this project and would like to continue to do so. Unfortunately, I can never keep my machine continuously loaded. Right now, I am adding more capacity with the addition of 2 more GPUs, but I know they will sit idle much of the time.

What do we need here in order to keep things running smoothly? How much money would "fully fund" this project?

I think a fully funded budget is around $500,000+ actual budget for the last few years was around $350,000 so only around $150,000 more per year.


SETI@home Budget - Fall 2010: $548,000.

From this post by Erik I got the impresion the wish for it budget was $500k+ and they get significantly less for the last several years. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63148&nowrap=true#1078044 I thought the shortfall was in the $100k + range.

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Message 1078637 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 3:52:58 UTC - in response to Message 1078596.  

I appreciate all the hard work you guys have been doing on a shoestring budget. However, I am always stuck in the same cycle with this project.

1.) Servers go down for a couple of days.
2.) My machine sits idle for a while.
3.) Servers come back up and are so jammed that I can't get any work units.
4.) Things mostly stabilize.
5.) Go to 1 and repeat.

I have crunched a whole ton of data for this project and would like to continue to do so. Unfortunately, I can never keep my machine continuously loaded. Right now, I am adding more capacity with the addition of 2 more GPUs, but I know they will sit idle much of the time.

What do we need here in order to keep things running smoothly? How much money would "fully fund" this project?

I think a fully funded budget is around $500,000+ actual budget for the last few years was around $350,000 so only around $150,000 more per year.


SETI@home Budget - Fall 2010: $548,000.

From this post by Erik I got the impresion the wish for it budget was $500k+ and they get significantly less for the last several years. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=63148&nowrap=true#1078044 I thought the shortfall was in the $100k + range.


I am aware of Eric's post, and the fact that the published budget is "what they would like". Based on Eric's statement that "$279k ... (is) more than our entire expenditures last year", I surmise that the current shortfall may be a bit larger than $100k-$150k.

The previous published budget (Fall 2007) showed annual expenditure of $424,500, against a "predicted" total of $476,000. But that was a few years ago, and grants and donations have clearly declined since then.

All of this gives the best available answer to the question "How much money would "fully fund" this project?"

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Message 1079531 - Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 21:49:40 UTC

Well, it does appear that the project is running considerably better than a few months ago. Apparently you folks really fixed some things during that last outage. My backlog of work is filling up nicely. I imagine in a couple of days, it will be large enough that i can go a day our two without new WUs.

Pending work sitting at about 40k, and I expect that to go up to about 80 or so. Maybe over 100k after the addition of the next two GPU cores.

Perhaps we can get some organized fundraising going on to help deal with project funding shortfalls?

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Message 1079546 - Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 22:52:30 UTC - in response to Message 1079531.  

Perhaps we can get some organized fundraising going on to help deal with project funding shortfalls?

There are already several fund-raising campaign threads going in the Number Crunching section.

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