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Message 1078415 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 19:34:43 UTC - in response to Message 1078412.  

DA was able to fix it in the forums....
Is the inbox display that much different?


I looked at the CSS, but it's not obvious to me how DA could have fixed it [using standard CSS styles]. You'll have to ask him....
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Message 1078419 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 19:40:25 UTC - in response to Message 1078415.  

DA was able to fix it in the forums....
Is the inbox display that much different?


I looked at the CSS, but it's not obvious to me how DA could have fixed it [using standard CSS styles]. You'll have to ask him....

He fixed it on the 14th, I think...
Are there any clues for you in the changeset log?
Here...

I am clueless about HTML, so I don't know what some of those changes do.
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Message 1078439 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 20:35:49 UTC - in response to Message 1078364.  

The cricket graph shows the pipe is maxed out at 90 Mbps. If the online convertor I just used is correct then that is equivalent to 40.5 Gb/hr. With most work units being 366Kb each that works out at a bandwidth equivalent to 109,000 wu/hr. Or 30 units per second - which is about right.
I don't think results out in the field is counting units allocated but unsent.

Allowing for ~2.74% packet overhead and AP tasks, I get around 17 MB and 0.5 AP tasks per second to occupy that 90 Mbps. As the download servers do not interface to the BOINC database at all, out in the field cannot be other than what the Scheduler has instructed hosts to download.

About 80% of hosts have RAC under 260 when things have stabilized, and many of those need less than 10 MB or 1 AP to fill their cache. Such hosts have probably already achieved more or less normal operation, many of the other 20% with larger appetites not yet.
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Message 1078447 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 20:50:23 UTC

Looks like they are working on something, all assimilators and splitters are diabled/not running.
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Message 1078451 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 20:56:31 UTC - in response to Message 1078447.  

Looks like they are working on something, all assimilators and splitters are diabled/not running.


or something broke AGAIN
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Message 1078454 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 20:58:17 UTC

More than likely working on Gowron.

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Message 1078465 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 21:14:52 UTC - in response to Message 1078454.  

More than likely working on Gowron.


shush we're not supposed to know about that server
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Message 1078468 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 21:17:37 UTC - in response to Message 1078188.  

...yesterday I got a boatload of WUs, and today I got another boatload. My i7 and Linux PCs are BOINCing right along... :)



Ah HA! So, you're the one to blame for clogging everything up! lol

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Greetings Martin,

Hey! All I did was doubled my RAM to 8 GB and installed Win7 Pro 64 bit. If that upgrade clogged the pipes, what a POWERHOUSE this thing is now! j/k ;) About the POWERHOUSE that is... :) I did do the upgrade. :)

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Message 1078474 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 21:26:59 UTC - in response to Message 1078439.  

The cricket graph shows the pipe is maxed out at 90 Mbps. If the online convertor I just used is correct then that is equivalent to 40.5 Gb/hr. With most work units being 366Kb each that works out at a bandwidth equivalent to 109,000 wu/hr. Or 30 units per second - which is about right.
I don't think results out in the field is counting units allocated but unsent.

Allowing for ~2.74% packet overhead and AP tasks, I get around 17 MB and 0.5 AP tasks per second to occupy that 90 Mbps. As the download servers do not interface to the BOINC database at all, out in the field cannot be other than what the Scheduler has instructed hosts to download.

About 80% of hosts have RAC under 260 when things have stabilized, and many of those need less than 10 MB or 1 AP to fill their cache. Such hosts have probably already achieved more or less normal operation, many of the other 20% with larger appetites not yet.
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I think you are right. The rate of increase in results in the field has dropped to around 13 per second now - about half of what it was. Yet the cricket graph is still saturated. So it is only recording allocated units.
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Message 1078607 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 1:44:14 UTC

Me I'm just getting HTTP error after HTTP error right now when I try to download. Sigh, I'll wait.
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Message 1078609 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 1:46:35 UTC - in response to Message 1078607.  

Me I'm just getting HTTP error after HTTP error right now when I try to download. Sigh, I'll wait.

I've been able to coax some downloads through, but until the bandwidth relaxes a bit, it's gonna continue to be a fight.
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Message 1078610 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 1:48:13 UTC - in response to Message 1078609.  

Me I'm just getting HTTP error after HTTP error right now when I try to download. Sigh, I'll wait.

I've been able to coax some downloads through, but until the bandwidth relaxes a bit, it's gonna continue to be a fight.

Yeah, Virtual bumper to bumper, Parking Lot style. :D Or hurry up and wait. ;)
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Message 1078611 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 2:02:26 UTC - in response to Message 1078610.  

Me I'm just getting HTTP error after HTTP error right now when I try to download. Sigh, I'll wait.

I've been able to coax some downloads through, but until the bandwidth relaxes a bit, it's gonna continue to be a fight.

Yeah, Virtual bumper to bumper, Parking Lot style. :D Or hurry up and wait. ;)

Well, just let Boinc do it's thing overnight, and you'll probably find it's snagged some more work by morning.

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Message 1078614 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 2:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 1078611.  

Me I'm just getting HTTP error after HTTP error right now when I try to download. Sigh, I'll wait.

I've been able to coax some downloads through, but until the bandwidth relaxes a bit, it's gonna continue to be a fight.

Yeah, Virtual bumper to bumper, Parking Lot style. :D Or hurry up and wait. ;)

Well, just let Boinc do it's thing overnight, and you'll probably find it's snagged some more work by morning.

Yeah, I've only 265 or so to grab, This morning It was at 303 or so. At 10pm I start crunching again.
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Message 1078620 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 2:39:40 UTC
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I've been slowly able to grab work, and I have a long way to go. The wierd thing is that I have added about 50,000 in pendings since we came back up. I don't mind, but it is a bit unusual for me to add this many so quickly. Out of about 2000 wu so far, every single CPU wu is an AP, which is also fine with me. Usually I get a mix of MB CPU/GPU. Now all MB is strictly GPU except the only CPU work being for the AP units.

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Message 1078622 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 2:56:12 UTC - in response to Message 1078620.  

I've been slowly able to grab work, and I have a long way to go. The wierd thing is that I have added about 50,000 in pendings since we came back up. I don't mind, but it is a bit unusual for me to add this many so quickly. Out of about 2000 wu so far, every single CPU wu is an AP, which is also fine with me. Usually I get a mix of MB CPU/GPU. Now all MB is strictly GPU except the only CPU work being for the AP units.

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Message 1078636 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 3:52:37 UTC - in response to Message 1078620.  
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I've got about 2000 waiting to d/l, Boinc grabs 3 or 4 then starts with the http errors. It's all good.

I am kind of puzzled by the CPU/GPU split so far. Early on, I too got a slew of AP, those are already crunched and returned. Since then, it's running about 25 to 1 GPU to CPU. I really don't want to have to reschedule but looks like I might not have a choice.
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Message 1078640 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 3:57:23 UTC

next outage will be Monday, we will run out of work to split.


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Message 1078671 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 6:29:50 UTC

Most of my work is for my GPU's, I occasionally get CPU MB work and some AP work for the Q8200 but I have a ton of ATI and CUDA MB work between the 2 systems.



Now if I could only get them downloaded.

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Message 1078677 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 7:41:12 UTC - in response to Message 1078474.  


I think you are right. The rate of increase in results in the field has dropped to around 13 per second now - about half of what it was. Yet the cricket graph is still saturated. So it is only recording allocated units.


Under normal conditions when WU's are downloaded without queues forming you would be right, its just that when it was decided to display that statistic they probabaly chose an easy point to generate the data from not realising that under some circumstances the data may be affected by other causes, the data is not mission critical its only for informational purposes.


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