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This board TYAN S8225 (S8225AGM4NRF) have four PEG x16 slots(ALL with 16 lanes) and room for four double wide cards. Right now probably the best board for GPU crunching.......if I had the money.......*sigh* | |
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When AMD's Bulldozer line comes out, we'll likely see a few of those in the top computers list. They're really increasing the performance when it comes to floating point operations. They have something similar to AVX too, although it's a bit different, because they didn't want to get sued by intel, so it's not 100% compatible with AVX. That sucks, because in a month or so, we're gonna have to burden the developers with ANOTHER new, optimized version for a new CPU instruction set. It's a shame that AMD couldn't make it compatible with AVX. | |
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This board TYAN S8225 (S8225AGM4NRF) have four PEG x16 slots(ALL with 16 lanes) and room for four double wide cards. Right now probably the best board for GPU crunching.......if I had the money.......*sigh* My AMD Phenom II X4 940 BE with 4x GTX260 OC are on a MSI K9A2 Platinum mobo. 4x PCIe 2.0 x16 slots. If two used @ PCIe 2.0 x16 speed, if all four used (like I) all @ PCIe 2.0 x8 speed. IIRC, TYAN mobos are not cheap. Also the upper mentioned is a server board. MSI should have now a newer mobo also with 4x PCIe 2.0 x16 slots - which would be much cheaper.. | |
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Huuhh.. I made a quick Google search.. ~ 430,- € .. wow.. too expensive.. | |
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When AMD's Bulldozer line comes out, we'll likely see a few of those in the top computers list. They're really increasing the performance when it comes to floating point operations. They have something similar to AVX too, although it's a bit different, because they didn't want to get sued by intel, so it's not 100% compatible with AVX. That sucks, because in a month or so, we're gonna have to burden the developers with ANOTHER new, optimized version for a new CPU instruction set. It's a shame that AMD couldn't make it compatible with AVX. I'am pretty sure AMD bulldozer has AVX. | |
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Looks like AMD omitted the Socket 1366 platform and its hex-core processor. This is still geared toward the performance desktop segment - not servers. Although it is also used on the server platform. | |
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I Think they left out 1366 socket cause of price. I think AMD is shooting for bulldozer vs. 1155 . Anyways the 980x is only 25% faster than the x6 so I think that bulldozer is still alot of competition for the price. | |
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I Think they left out 1366 socket cause of price. I think AMD is shooting for bulldozer vs. 1155 . Anyways the 980x is only 25% faster than the x6 so I think that bulldozer is still alot of competition for the price. Also if Sandy bridge is 20% faster than current i7 (almost as good as the 980x) and bulldozer is 20% faster than the 980x and ivy bridge is 20% faster than sandy bridge. Than they should be about equal or very close. Much different AMD might actually stand a chance at the performance crown. | |
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AMD droppped their own implementation (SSE5), a long time ago, and went the AVX way. | |
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I was going to get a 6 core AMD but I think I'll waiot a few months for the bulldozer | |
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I was going to get a 6 core AMD but I think I'll waiot a few months for the bulldozer Probably a very wise move. I think bulldozer is going to be a huge step up from the current Phenom II X6 line. I'm very happy with my 1090T though. It's mighty fast and chews through seti tasks like nobody's business. Plus they're incredibly overclockable. Mine sits at 4.02ghz 24/7 without a voltage increase and runs 48-50C temps, which is amazing. Mind you, it's not as fast as my 980x, but the 980x is 4x the price (probably a silly "investment" for me, but I like fast things). But yeah, when we're this close to a new architecture that could be quite revolutionary for performance, you'd probably be a bit silly to buy a Phenom II. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOP_instruction_set#Compatibility_issues According to this, there are some incompatibilities between AVX and Bulldozer. They're using a different instruction set to attempt to get as close as possible to the same features, but I think we will need another new app for bulldozer. I don't know if this has all changed due to the settlement or not. Usually wikipedia is pretty good about updating when something new like that happens. ____________ -baron_iv Proud member of: | |
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... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOP_instruction_set#Compatibility_issues According to this, there are some incompatibilities between AVX and Bulldozer. They're using a different instruction set to attempt to get as close as possible to the same features, ... Not quite... My interpretation is that AMD have all the Intel features listed but also additionally have their own features. I just wonder if the instruction op-codes compatibility issues are still a sign that there is still some anti-competitive sabotage going on? Whichever, I just hope it doesn't mean yet more wasted and duplicated effort for the compiler writers and software developers, and also lost optimisations for all users... I'll agree that AMD's Bulldozer is looking rather interesting... We very definitely need to keep AMD alive to avoid Intel expensively stagnating with a monopoly... Happy fast crunchin', Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3) | |
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My AMD Phenom II X4 940 BE with 4x GTX260 OC are on a MSI K9A2 Platinum mobo. Well the difference is that this new board has a total of 64 lanes and must not share them between the slots. There was a thread about how the transfer speed to the cards effect compute times. Oh, I just saw that it was one of your threads wich I mean. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62704#1064427 So, this board should have faster processing speed whith four cards compared to boards with only 32 available lanes. ____________ Christoph | |
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Only if the GPU or add-in card can truely make use of them. Thus far the only devices that I have seen that can max out a x16 PCI-E 2.0 slot is a RAID card with a ton of Cache on it and also a 10GB ethernet card with multi-ports. | |
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Ok, I thought GPUs are the things which realy use and need all these lanes. In this case of course this board offers no advantage in terms of GPU crunching. | |
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This might be true in the near future with newer cards needing more bandwidth. Also, Tesla cards do have much more memory onboard - up to 6GB! And this might be useful in the arena - but not many of us are using Tesla cards on this project based on their significant cost. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0044O7FXS/ref=asc_df_B0044O7FXS1419586?ie=UTF8&condition=new&tag=dealtmp95-20&creative=395165&creativeASIN=B0044O7FXS&linkCode=asm | |
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Well, these are far out of range.......with my old job I could have build up a machine using that MoBo equiped with GPUs within one year, but even than that type of card would have been out of range.......no sence to spend so much money compared with consumer GPGPU products. | |
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Whatever happened to the one guy here that was building the home "super computer" with the tesla cards? He just kind of disappeared. Seems I remember from the conversation then that people were expecting that generation of tesla, don't remember or know much about tesla(think it was a 1 series maybe a 2?), was about the same speed as a 295. Some of the reviews have them at about 500 GFLOPS.....yeah $3k dollars.....think I'll stick with consumer level crunchers lol. | |
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Whatever happened to the one guy here that was building the home "super computer" with the tesla cards? He just kind of disappeared. Seems I remember from the conversation then that people were expecting that generation of tesla, don't remember or know much about tesla(think it was a 1 series maybe a 2?), was about the same speed as a 295. Some of the reviews have them at about 500 GFLOPS.....yeah $3k dollars.....think I'll stick with consumer level crunchers lol. They are more accurate that is about it. (it really matter when using them for CAD) .00000001 inch to you or me is nothing. To a 70 story building however that could cause problems. | |
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Did a little digging on them and found that they advertise them(c2070 Tesla) to deliver the same performance of cpu-based cluster at one-tenth the cost and one-twentieth the power. However they don't specify in accordance to what hardware the cluster is, so I suppose the market for these would be people building a cluster cruncher for research that needed to save on power. But the the question begs, why would you still do it instead of a regular gpu? | |
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