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This series has got to be just one of the best sets of UFO vids ever taken... Excellent work! | |
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It's a hoax. There are strong artifacts in the videos that show that they were altered using commercial video editing software. Then there's the fact that despite the incredible brightness of the UFO, it doesn't cast any illumination on the ground or the dome of the rock. There's a good description here. I think that shows that the people who made the videos are at a minimum being deceptive. In order to save them from shock, parents usually drop hints that Santa's not real and let their kids figure it out. I believe some of the hoax videos are created to gauge the public's reaction, while providing deniability in case they take badly to them. Do you have an opinion about Dr. Tom Van Flandern's presentation? Again, I am the first to assert that there is no cover-up whatsoever. Governments have practically stated outright that aliens are visiting earth. That isn't a cover-up. | |
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The conspiracy theorists show several signs of impossibly looped logic: HA! I LOVE IT! Had me laughing out loud to myself. Only thing wrong I feel is, "Return to number 1", should be number 5. ;-) This is not to say I don't believe in UFOs. On the contrary, I saw one when I was 8 years old and my "X-files" style "flying saucer" poster says, "I Do Believe!". However, not everything strange or unexplainable seen in the sky by people, which an observer thinks is a UFO, takes photos of it, or perhaps video records it, IS a true UFO! There's just too many wackos out there, who cause hindrance and harm to the serious investigation of the phenomena. :-( ____________ Wishing you continued science "fun" and at least, always valid results, Laters, Rick "WHOSIT" W. Participating in: Einstein/MilkyWay/Rosetta/SETI  | |
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Fake methinks! | |
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This series has got to be just one of the best sets of UFO vids ever taken... Excellent work! These videos have been proven a CGI hoax. ____________ "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 | |
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you mean the palm trees in Haiti don't all have the same leaf pattern. For shame thats just lazy hoaxing | |
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99.9% of all UFO sightings can be logically explained. What is worrying the Governments of the worlds Major powers is the 0.1% that has no logical explanation even with modern science. They couldn't care less whether there are little green men or not from a scientific or humanitarian viewpoint. | |
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How I wish I had a camera the day I seen my puzzlement in the sky. It would have been a great chance to have my own authentic fuzzy UFO pic. | |
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99.9% of all UFO sightings can be logically explained. What is worrying the Governments of the worlds Major powers is the 0.1% that has no logical explanation even with modern science. They couldn't care less whether there are little green men or not from a scientific or humanitarian viewpoint. actually nearly 100%. 0.1% is being generous. Its far likely the ones that can't be determined were faked either by the witness or by a 3rd party ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school  | |
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It's a hoax. There are strong artifacts in the videos that show that they were altered using commercial video editing software. Then there's the fact that despite the incredible brightness of the UFO, it doesn't cast any illumination on the ground or the dome of the rock. There's a good description here. I think that shows that the people who made the videos are at a minimum being deceptive. This is really a terrible attempt at debunking this particular sighting. They just claim there should be a reflection, the city lights should be blinking, or there should've been more witnesses (even though it was after 1AM in the Middle East, of all places). If these videos are clearly fakes, then they should easily be able to provide a legitimate explanation or point out legitimate discrepancies in all videos. I'm not saying with 100% certainty that this is a 'UFO from outer space', but there's nothing in at least 3 of the videos that points to it being a hoax. The only possible or likely fake (which I started becoming skeptical of the more I viewed it) is the close-up video, but that could easily be a deliberate fake. However, there's nothing in the other 3 videos that clearly point to a hoax. All 3 are in sync, and the most convincing details are in the 2 videos shot from the same group of people. Just look closer at the timing and the angles from those 2 videos. If you pay attention to the guy with the cell phone in the first video, you'll see that his slightly different vantage point, his side-to-side body movement, and the rate in watch he lowers his phone 'below' and 'above' his head are in complete and total sync with the actual footage shot in the first video. I'd actually be skeptical of any single one of these videos if they stood alone, but the 3 videos together (excluding the close-up) make me think otherwise. | |
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"Fake, Fake, Fake" | |
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Please give me some definitive proof so I can agree with you! | |
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http://www.spike.com/video-clips/43zh0g/seinfeld-seasons-5-6-giftset-the-mango | |
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http://www.spike.com/video-clips/43zh0g/seinfeld-seasons-5-6-giftset-the-mango Guilty til proven innocent... got it! Kind of like Saddam and those WMD's that were never found after 9/11. Sorry to disagree with you, but the burden of proof lies on the skeptics, plain and simple! | |
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why wouldnt the Israeli military say something. Heck the run patrols 24/7. not one mention. all the other tourists in town didn't notice either. And why would this "tourist" be hanging around on a deserted hillside in the middle of the night in a very dangerous town. Perhaps hes a native and was creating a fake video. | |
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This is really a terrible attempt at debunking this particular sighting. They just claim there should be a reflection, the city lights should be blinking, or there should've been more witnesses (even though it was after 1AM in the Middle East, of all places). If these videos are clearly fakes, then they should easily be able to provide a legitimate explanation or point out legitimate discrepancies in all videos. I don't know, that little think called physics always gets in the way. What you are calling a "lame attempt" is precisely what any scientist would be looking for in "proof" caught in a video shoot. Sorry to disagree with you, but the burden of proof lies on the skeptics, plain and simple! No, you have that backwards. The burden of proof lies in the claimee. If anyone is claiming that the video is real, they must provide proof. You have to provide irrefutable evidence for your claim in order for it to be accepted. It never works the other way around; you can't just shoot a video and tell everyone else to disprove it. It doesn't work that way in a scientific community. | |
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Whether the video is real or fake is just a possible answer to what the object is. Even an authentic video doesn't mean squat. The lack of identifying the object isn't proof that its origin is alien. | |
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One of the fundamental problems here is peoples natural assumption. When a UFO appears, and is documented, and investigated, and there is no explantion for it within our knowlege, it is automatically assumed to be of extraterestrial origin. | |
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We will know about ET, in let's say 2031. | |
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From that article. The astronomer added that 10 percent of known planets circling suns in the galaxy resemble Earth, We have no such proof. we barely know of about 350 extrasolar planets. Most of those planets are as large or larger than Jupiter. where he gets 10% is beyond me. He regretfully misses that aliens might only live in the "habitable" zone around these planets. By far most of the smaller planets are far to close to their stars to be habitable and we can barely see or find planets 3X our own. So to assume that 10% are earth size is just crazy and not based in science ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school | |
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