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Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
Router radiation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMTjAXPQkTY Laptop radiation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJqU7x_5cg Cellphone radiation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDWEDqyvjhI Cordless phone radiation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujqxg_xFQVI Long term effect include all types of brain diseases and cancer. Especially pregnant women and little babies are very vulnerable within 1 meter zone from the radiation sources. Mandtugai! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Router radiation: And your point, exactly, is what? That we should live without radiation? Get real. Radio communication has been part of our lives for the last 60 years or so. We are immersed in it. Unless you have a hard line to my computer, which I could cut right now, you are part of it. There is probably no part of your post that has not traveled over the air to get to my location. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
My point is people learn a new knowledge. I am in no position to advice hardliner tech enthusiasts here. So just acquire a new knowledge that is all. ;D (maybe try to keep away your small children from the radiation sources; but I guess that is possible privacy infringement according to your culture so even ignore that sentence) :) So my guess is possibly 50% of all audience here might absorb this info differently. Mandtugai! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
My point is people learn a new knowledge. I am in no position to advice hardliner tech enthusiasts here. So just acquire a new knowledge that is all. ;D Very well. Some might not know. Although they cannot change anything, other than turning their cell phone off. But the guy on the bus next to them probably has it turned on, rendering the point moot. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
Oops what happened with Msattlers posts?! In between my 1st 2 posts there was his post. Mandtugai! |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
He is in time out again it appears. Janice |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20283 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Router radiation: All utterly negligible compared to the risks from chemical carcinogens. Ever wondered what creeps into your processed food? Or what wonderful cocktail you are breathing whilst in your car or any public transport? Worse still might be the 90% recycled air of a modern day city office... Keep searchin'! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
There is another interesting fact that mostly people's biochemistry is little bit different from one another I guess these certain dosage of radiations possibly worked on some type of people. So my basic guess is that for some exposed people it possibly worked or even healed their unexpected health defects and for some unknown percentage of people this thing is harmful (well it is top secret number with each nation's government and their high tech industry) and maybe with majority of people the effect is unknown or something is going on under the table. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkXWLdBlo5o Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq340oQPfK4 Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvyFbcCZlrI some facts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VDBxo_eMhA Mandtugai! |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
Neuro scientists and brain-doctors on Larry King: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHg08f5_xo Cell-phone radiation penetration into your brain: http://www.env-health.org/a/3074 Mandtugai! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30647 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Isn't the 5 year olds head less than 1/2 the size of the adults? Why isn't that shown? How to lie with graphics. |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
My guess is they used magnifying option on 5 year old image section. But if you have more questions you can contact them here at: Health and Environment Alliance (HEAL) | 28 Boulevard Charlemagne, B1000 Brussels, Belgium phone: +32 2 234 3640 | fax: +32 2 234 3649 | e-mail: info@env-health.org (I found this source very randomly from google search hopefully the organisation is legitimate one) Above graphic is same with regular cordless phone. Mandtugai! |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
I found this comment and I am quite sure that this is true: The surface is only being scratched. Just recently emf is being linked to Autism. 20 years ago the rate of autism in America was 1 in 10,000. It currently stands at 1 in 150 and climbing. I am pretty sure higher radioactive consumer products user other countries have similar figure. (but supposedly some state secret in numerous countries) (I'd personally suspect that my government would likely try to hide this kind of figure.) Mandtugai! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20283 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I found this comment and I am quite sure that this is true: ... Except... Was what is today know as "autism" even recognised let alone reported 20 years ago? Does that curve more accurately reflect the rise of the professions documenting and treating "autism"? See Lorna Wing. First scientific paper by her concerning autism published 1979. Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
I am quite sure that cdc.gov is under huge public watch. Especially this kind of figure definately pass numerous filters there and corresponding independent institutes. 20 years of autism jump is suspeciously matching 20 years of cell phone usage jump. Mandtugai! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30647 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I am quite sure that cdc.gov is under huge public watch. Especially this kind of figure definately pass numerous filters there and corresponding independent institutes. No. More like autism becoming the diagnosis de jour. Hey plot it vs. ADHD! |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
Here is the cellphone user jump in America (but showing half period compare to above figure) and it seemingly matching above autism figure: today it is well past 200mln. World-renowned Epidemiologist Dr. George Carlo provided a high impact presentation that exposed the dangers of living in the wireless age in a way that everyone could understand. As the chief scientist of the world's largest research effort into wireless safety, the Safe Wireless Initiative (SWI), he discussed the effects of electromagnetic radiation, specifically Information Carrying Radio Waves (IRCWs) and how they negatively affect the body's ability to function and repair damage affecting our cells. This is great information about how emf effects our health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I1zQ9CDbgE ==================== This is definately must watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJnnsTWYeQ Mandtugai! |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
... On this there is one thing must be noted that because regular cordless phone has twice more radiation than cellphone the penetration area must be a lot bigger. Mandtugai! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20283 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
On this there is one thing must be noted that because regular cordless phone has twice more radiation than cellphone the penetration area must be a lot bigger. Yes and no. DECT "cordless phones" use a much lower frequency than that used for mobile phones. The radio waves go right through your head unperturbed. That is: Your head is nearly completely 'invisible' to such low frequency radio waves. I still think that other man-made environmental factors are far more significant for your good health or not-so-good-health. A smoker smoking even at 10 metres away is likely far more detrimental to your health than is idly talking on a mobile phone. Then again, talking or having an argument on a mobile phone can be a deadly distraction if you are also trying to drive a vehicle... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
IIRC radiation and possible harm are inversely proportional to the distance to the source. I doubt there are many children that are so plugged in as to be chatting away on a phone at age 3 or younger In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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