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Message 1067743 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 19:51:10 UTC

I would like to point out that installing software on a computer without the owner's permission is illegal in some jurisdictions.

Also, those of you who provided advice oh how to hide what might be a crime could also be legally liable.

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Message 1067765 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 21:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 1067743.
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I would like to point out that installing software on a computer without the owner's permission is illegal in some jurisdictions.

Also, those of you who provided advice oh how to hide what might be a crime could also be legally liable.



I agree with you but there is also the fact that seti is already hidden.

C:\programdata\boinc

There are also at least 11,100.000 resutls to the question (how do I hide pc software?) on internet explorer.

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Message 1067773 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 21:37:15 UTC - in response to Message 1067765.

No results found for "how do I hide PC software".

From google, in quotes, zero results.



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Message 1067776 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 21:45:16 UTC - in response to Message 1067773.

No results found for "how do I hide PC software".

From google, in quotes, zero results.


sorry should have been between how do I( hide PC software)

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Message 1067777 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 21:47:02 UTC - in response to Message 1067776.

No results found for "how do I hide PC software".

From google, in quotes, zero results.


sorry should have been between how do I( hide PC software)

michael

Just on "hide pc software" from google, 7 hits.

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Message 1067783 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 22:12:18 UTC - in response to Message 1067777.

How much of the URL can I give you
before going against foram code of conduct

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Message 1067784 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 22:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 1067733.

I certainly would not condone installing it on anybody else's computer without permission and 'hiding' it just so they didn't know it was there. I was just leaving open the possibility that there might be a valid reason for wanting to have Boinc inaccessible, especially on a computer you don't have access to all the time and is used by others.

’Zackly my point as well. Why is everyone so ready to assume the worst motives?

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Message 1067785 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 22:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 1067783.

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post it and see how much it takes to get yourself banned. GO ahead post see what happens
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Message 1067790 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 22:33:08 UTC - in response to Message 1067784.

I certainly would not condone installing it on anybody else's computer without permission and 'hiding' it just so they didn't know it was there. I was just leaving open the possibility that there might be a valid reason for wanting to have Boinc inaccessible, especially on a computer you don't have access to all the time and is used by others.

’Zackly my point as well. Why is everyone so ready to assume the worst motives?


Can you think of any good motives?

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Message 1067797 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 22:47:59 UTC

I think this is turning into a game of who-dares ;). We are only trying to save the orig-poster's bacon. + yes the motives may be perfectly legitimate + calm. But I guess we're just playing safe.

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Message 1067802 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 23:13:13 UTC - in response to Message 1067784.


’Zackly my point as well. Why is everyone so ready to assume the worst motives?


Been my experience that 90% of the time assuming the worst is the right assumption.

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Message 1067806 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 23:18:21 UTC - in response to Message 1067679.
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Just friend and family computers...but don't want them to see it incase they uninstall it. Most arent computer savvy


If they can use a PC, I think they are smart enough to understand what BOINC is (if you explained it).

So they will not uninstall the software, if they want to run this software.

E.g. my Intel Core2 Duo E7600 use ~ 50 W @ idle, ~ 110 W at full load SETI@home (calculation without GTX260, if with then + ~ 45 W @ idle and + ~ 140 W @ full load).

Idle vs. full load, maybe they will be surprised about the higher electricity bill?

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Message 1067808 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 23:22:19 UTC
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how to hide software on vista

2,300.000 1.0 sec

on google


http://boinc.mundayweb.com/teamStats.php?userID=14824

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Message 1067813 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 23:39:15 UTC - in response to Message 1067790.

Why is everyone so ready to assume the worst motives?

Can you think of any good motives?

I gave an example upthread: to cater to non-savvy users who like the idea of contributing to the project but are afraid the software will require some form of interaction they don’t feel competent to deal with. I’ve met plenty of people who get nervous at the very thought of a change in their computing environment: either experience—usually with Windows ;) —or imagination tells them that the appearance of anything out of the ordinary on their screen means trouble.

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Message 1067830 - Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 23:55:48 UTC - in response to Message 1067813.

Then some education is in order for those users. If you install software that they know about but can't do anything about, the first time their computer hiccups they will blame the Seti software and the installer for messin' up their computer.

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Message 1067845 - Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 0:33:36 UTC - in response to Message 1067679.

Just friend and family computers...but don't want them to see it incase they uninstall it. Most arent computer savvy

If they know what it is and want to run it then why would they uninstall it?

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Message 1067852 - Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 0:46:32 UTC - in response to Message 1067830.

Then some education is in order for those users. If you install software that they know about but can't do anything about, the first time their computer hiccups they will blame the Seti software and the installer for messin' up their computer.

+1

Also, it is only fair to continue the education by saying it is impossible to "install SETI", just like that, on its own.It will require BOINC as well, plus connection to an account here at SETI - the creation of an account, if one doesn't exist already.

And when all that is done, there is a real cost for the end user. The extra electricity consumed, and the extra network traffic on their internet connection. It isn't fair to impose all that on them without explanation and education.

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Message 1067869 - Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 2:14:05 UTC

The OP is probably a Linux user trying to put one over on Windows users.

Just trying to tie two unwieldy threads together. ;)


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Message 1067878 - Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 3:11:47 UTC - in response to Message 1067869.

The OP is probably a Linux user trying to put one over on Windows users.

Just trying to tie two unwieldy threads together. ;)

Is this the other thread? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62603

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Message 1067891 - Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 4:12:23 UTC

There was another guy besides NEZ that hijacked peoples machines typically as a trojan. Wate was his id, and was lucky to get away with only having all his credits deleted.

http://climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=7412
(search for Wate)

Bad move. Don't do it.

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