astropule work but preferences set to no

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sctpgr Send message Joined: 11 Apr 03 Posts: 1 Credit: 1,300,525 RAC: 0	Message 1056327 - Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 17:45:20 UTC has anyone else been rec'ing astropulse units when their preferences are set to not have ap work? I appreciate the new server and everything and work being generated i just don't have a machine that can plow through 196+ hours of work ID: 1056327 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1056332 - Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 17:54:14 UTC - in response to Message 1056327. has anyone else been rec'ing astropulse units when their preferences are set to not have ap work? I appreciate the new server and everything and work being generated i just don't have a machine that can plow through 196+ hours of work Double check the the preference to allow work from other applications if the selected ones don't have work is set to 'no'. Otherwise, AP may be sent when MB is not available, even if you have not selected to get AP work. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ID: 1056332 ·

Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0	Message 1056338 - Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 18:06:02 UTC Some general comments on AP work: If you haven't had one for a while, the initial time to completion estimate will be way too big. Try running one for a while before aborting it, and watch what happens to the time to completion estimate. The deadlines set for AP work should allow you to complete them before the deadline if you keep your hours per day of computing fairly constant. You will get slightly more credits per hour for an AP than an MB. ID: 1056338 ·

JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127	Message 1056447 - Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 23:49:55 UTC - in response to Message 1056338. You will get slightly more credits per hour for an AP than an MB. I don't think that's correct anymore. Some months ago you got around 1200 for an AP WU, but now you only get maybe 700. ID: 1056447 ·

SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0	Message 1056448 - Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 23:54:25 UTC - in response to Message 1056447. You will get slightly more credits per hour for an AP than an MB. I don't think that's correct anymore. Some months ago you got around 1200 for an AP WU, but now you only get maybe 700. I just did 2 of them at 1294.24 credits each. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1056448 ·

JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127	Message 1056449 - Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 23:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 1056448. You will get slightly more credits per hour for an AP than an MB. I don't think that's correct anymore. Some months ago you got around 1200 for an AP WU, but now you only get maybe 700. I just did 2 of them at 1294.24 credits each. Steve OK, wonder if it's the new standard again... ID: 1056449 ·

SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0	Message 1056450 - Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 23:57:36 UTC - in response to Message 1056449. You will get slightly more credits per hour for an AP than an MB. I don't think that's correct anymore. Some months ago you got around 1200 for an AP WU, but now you only get maybe 700. I just did 2 of them at 1294.24 credits each. Steve OK, wonder if it's the new standard again... The only consistancy is change. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1056450 ·

Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0	Message 1056476 - Posted: 16 Dec 2010, 1:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 1056450. You will get slightly more credits per hour for an AP than an MB. I don't think that's correct anymore. Some months ago you got around 1200 for an AP WU, but now you only get maybe 700. I just did 2 of them at 1294.24 credits each. Steve OK, wonder if it's the new standard again... The only consistancy is change. Steve I'm not sure there really is a "standard". I get valid results for MB units from 30 to 130 credits each. I guess the real question is how many credits per hour (or per minute for you super crunchers) are you getting for APs? I haven't had one for months, but they used to be a little better than MBs, per hour. ID: 1056476 ·

bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 861 Credit: 29,352,955 RAC: 0	Message 1056478 - Posted: 16 Dec 2010, 1:44:47 UTC - in response to Message 1056327. Yep, got one a while ago. Came in at 113 hours to completion. It's now at 31% after 3 hours of running. So say 10~12 hours to run. The machine is a Q9550 running at 3.4GHZ so you could try one. I'd guess your PC could finish one of 196HRS in around 25 to 30 hours actual. ID: 1056478 ·

Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 1056484 - Posted: 16 Dec 2010, 2:02:41 UTC Last modified: 16 Dec 2010, 2:03:24 UTC What many have forgotten is, both MB and AP are a CPU resource. What means is that if you have been running MB, the the Durration Correction Factor is stablized for MB not AP. The AP app that is published is probably more effecient than the MB app. So the time estimates "will be" whacked. The only people who will have issues, are those who run AMD CPU's. That is a result of L2 Cache and compiler bias. Regards Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 1056484 ·

Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0	Message 1056507 - Posted: 16 Dec 2010, 4:34:18 UTC - in response to Message 1056484. What many have forgotten is, both MB and AP are a CPU resource. What means is that if you have been running MB, the the Durration Correction Factor is stablized for MB not AP. The AP app that is published is probably more effecient than the MB app. ... More importantly, the servers will be scaling the estimates for MB work such that the Duration Correction Factor should be someplace near 1. But AP WU estimates will not be scaled until ten have been validated. The combination of factors often work out such that the AP time estimates are about 5 to 10 times higher than they should be. IMO, the stock CPU MB app is more efficient than the stock AP app, think back to how long early Beta versions of the MB app took to do a WU. Joe ID: 1056507 ·

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