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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 1052216 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 14:04:16 UTC Last modified: 1 Dec 2010, 14:05:45 UTC
	The plight of the Tuna being endangered by rampant over-fishing was raised last year, and as was ICCAT utterly disgraced as farce. This year ICCAT has been a lot more secretive and just as disgraceful: Sorry, Charlie: Bluefin Tuna Left in Lurch by Conservation Commission The International Commission for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas (ICCAT) met behind closed doors in Paris for 10 days and managed to provide limited new protection for whitetip and hammerhead sharks. But hopes for real catch limits—even a moratorium—for Atlantic bluefin tuna went nowhere... Green view: Singing the blues ... For many decades the story has been the same. Prior to the meeting, the politicians are lobbied heavily by the fishing industry—which wants to catch lots of fish, and argues that there are plenty to catch. They will warn of dire consequences if the quota (13,500 tonnes in 2010) is reduced by even a kilo: the industry will be left in ruins; traditional ways of life of life will be tragically destroyed; there will be gnashing of teeth (but no whaling, unless things get really bad…). The scientists that monitor the fish will for their part advise restraint. Every year their recommendations would lead most sensible people to suggest that the quotas should be smaller than the fishermen want. Green activists will argue they should be much much smaller. And at the end of all this the politicians will give the fishermen pretty much what they asked for, setting quotas far larger than scientifically advisable while knowing full well that the fishermen will go out and catch far more than they were supposed to. Stocks of bluefin tuna have duly plummeted... How few seasons of tuna are left at this pace of wanton destruction? The estimates from last year were of perhaps just a handful of years before complete collapse. Also, we don't yet know how (badly) the Gulf of Mexico oil spill has affected the unique species of tuna for that area... It's our only one planet... Once it's gone, it's gone. Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8973 Credit: 37,826,095 RAC: 43,477	Message 1052334 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 21:52:57 UTC - in response to Message 1052216.
	I heard on NPR that France and Italy are not going to reduce their take of the blue fin because the Japanese pay such a nice price for it. The Japanese are supposed to keep at it as well so the Blue fin is going to become non-thriving like the atlantic cod. another species down ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 1063673 - Posted: 5 Jan 2011, 16:16:40 UTC - in response to Message 1052334.
	I heard on NPR that France and Italy are not going to reduce their take of the blue fin because the Japanese pay such a nice price for it. The Japanese are supposed to keep at it as well so the Blue fin is going to become non-thriving like the atlantic cod. another species down And this is just one example of how Tuna are condemned to extinction: Japan new year tuna sale sets price record A tuna has sold at auction for a record 32.49m yen in Tokyo, nearly $400,000 (£257,320). ... ... More than 500 fish were laid out on pallets on the concrete floor. But the lot that attracted the most interest was a giant 342kg blue fin tuna caught off Japan's northern island of Hokkaido. The winning bid was made jointly by the owners of a restaurant in Tokyo's upmarket Ginza district, and a sushi chain in Hong Kong. Restrictions on catches have been tightened in recent years because of concerns about overfishing. Traders at Tsukiji market say growing Chinese demand for sushi is also helping to push up prices. It's our only planet, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 1080792 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 0:08:55 UTC - in response to Message 1052216.
	The plight of the Tuna being endangered by rampant over-fishing was raised last year, and as was ICCAT utterly disgraced as farce. This year ICCAT has been a lot more secretive and just as disgraceful ... Stocks of bluefin tuna have duly plummeted... And now, more of the same? The 11th Hour Strikes: Saving the Blue Fin Tuna From Extinction The fate of one of the ocean's largest fish and most important apex predators will be on the table at an inter-sessional meeting of The International Commission for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas (ICCAT) to take place February 21-25th in Barcelona, Spain. According to a recent report from the Associated French Press, several countries have failed to deliver their plans for recovery of tuna stocks... ... In 2010, conservationist officials from the United States and European Union met in Qatar to pass and implement a global ban on the trade of bluefin tuna. Yet despite its current status by the IUCN red list as critically endangered, the motion was rejected as nations including Indonesia, Canada and Japan -- the largest global consumers of bluefin -- argued for more sustainable industry management practices in the future. Environmental scientists and conservationists were deeply disappointed by the decision as current research studies indicate that bluefin stocks have plummeted by approximately 85 percent since the era of industrial fishing began. ... ... Some scientists predict that at the current rates, the bluefin could become extinct -- as in banished from the Earth forever -- in as little as one year. ... How few seasons of tuna are left at this pace of wanton destruction? The estimates from last year were of perhaps just a handful of years before complete collapse. Also, we don't yet know how (badly) the Gulf of Mexico oil spill has affected the unique species of tuna for that area... It's our only one planet... Once it's gone, it's gone. Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,539,417 RAC: 1,234	Message 1080798 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 0:57:41 UTC - in response to Message 1080792.
	Just in case anyone is losing sleep over a tuna casserole, bluefin tuna appears almost exclusively as a sushi/sashimi delicacy. It is NOT what you get by opening a can of starkist/chicken of the sea. ____________ Janice
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keith Send message Joined: 18 Dec 10 Posts: 454 Credit: 9,054 RAC: 0	Message 1080818 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 3:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 1080798.
	I'm eating tuna and salmon and beef and chicken and pork and lamb. If you don't like it, I don't care. You sound like a control freak who wants to tell everyone how to live. As my Mother fondly says...."Get off the cross. We need the wood."
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,539,417 RAC: 1,234	Message 1080828 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 4:09:15 UTC - in response to Message 1080818.
	now now no one accused you of being compassionate. ____________ Janice
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keith Send message Joined: 18 Dec 10 Posts: 454 Credit: 9,054 RAC: 0	Message 1080851 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 5:33:50 UTC - in response to Message 1080828.
	YUMMMM. Salmon with teriyaki and lemon dressing! And, of course, the requisite sides (served by Jeeves) garlic and dill mashed potatoes, asparagus dripped with balsamic vinegar and rice pilaf !!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,539,417 RAC: 1,234	Message 1080896 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 8:06:49 UTC - in response to Message 1080851.
	Perhaps you could get back to us when you can understand what the subject is. ____________ Janice
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8973 Credit: 37,826,095 RAC: 43,477	Message 1081042 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 23:31:30 UTC - in response to Message 1080896.
	troll alert... troll alert. Ignore the troll... troll alert... troll alert! ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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phud Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1319 Credit: 34,994,877 RAC: 13	Message 1081069 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 0:41:41 UTC
	"there but for the grace of cod, go i." ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 1081078 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 1:08:45 UTC
	The selfishly greedy exterminist Maltese tuna fishermen are not going to like this... Reinforced Sea Shepherd to return for tuna season ... This year, the campaign will be stepped up as the Steve Irwin, named after Australia’s famous wildlife TV personality known as The Crocodile Hunter, will be joined by the Gojira, a high-tech trimaran, whose name translates to Godzilla in Japanese. Asked whether the organisation would be applying political pressure on the EU and Mediterranean countries, Capt. Watson said political pressure was only a side-effect of their anti-poaching tactics. “We don’t really do that, we’re an anti-poaching organisation, so we intervene and I guess the action might have some political impact but mainly we’re interested in physically obstructing poachers and releasing their catch.” Poaching, by Capt. Watson’s definition, includes “fishing without permits, without having the observers on board, fishing after the dates they’re not supposed to and taking more tonnage than they’re allowed”. “Something has to be done about bluefin tuna because it’s becoming more and more endangered and the Gulf oil spill didn’t help them much. Basically, it’s the stockpiling of tuna in Japan that is a real big problem,” Capt. Watson said. ... ... The same report had recommended that Atlantic bluefin tuna be listed as an endangered species, meaning it could not be traded or caught. This proposed ban did not however win enough support from the international community. In November, Malta and other countries blocked the EU’s proposed reduction of tuna quotas for this year’s tuna fishing season. ... It's ALL our only planet! Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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keith Send message Joined: 18 Dec 10 Posts: 454 Credit: 9,054 RAC: 0	Message 1081099 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 2:11:47 UTC - in response to Message 1080828.
	now now no one accused you of being compassionate. "Compassion for Carnivores"! You should write a book.
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8973 Credit: 37,826,095 RAC: 43,477	Message 1081133 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 4:34:03 UTC - in response to Message 1081099.
	you'll be eating soy when you fish out the oceans. Heh you want some nice Atlantic Cod. Remember how they said that fish would last forever... then came the year where there was no fish. same applies here. fish it out and you'll have decades with nothing. we are clearly getting close to a tipping point with our appetites ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 1081225 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 14:42:06 UTC - in response to Message 1081133. Last modified: 25 Feb 2011, 14:42:52 UTC
	you'll be eating soy when you fish out the oceans. Heh you want some nice Atlantic Cod. Remember how they said that fish would last forever... then came the year where there was no fish. same applies here. fish it out and you'll have decades with nothing. we are clearly getting close to a tipping point with our appetites The Grand Banks are a very sad reminder of once it's gone, it's gone, forever. Once a species is wiped out, there's no magic to magic it back. The real issue looks to be more that of blind selfish commercial greed and corruption than anything to do with any conscious consumer appetite. It's ALL our only planet. Are we going to let a very small selfish few destroy it for us all? Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,539,417 RAC: 1,234	Message 1081692 - Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 18:00:54 UTC
	http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/02/25/world.coral.reefs/index.html " Human activity and climate change have left about 75% of the world's coral reefs threatened, putting the livelihoods of many countries that depend on the ocean ecosystems at risk, according to a report released this week. Local threats such as overfishing, coastal development, and watershed- and marine-based pollution are responsible for the immediate and direct threat to more than 60% of the world's reefs. Add to that thermal stress from rising ocean temperatures and the number of threatened reefs jumps to 75%, the World Resources Institute found in the report, titled "Reefs at Risk," released Wednesday. " ____________ Janice
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 1107092 - Posted: 17 May 2011, 22:04:12 UTC - in response to Message 1052216.
	The plight of the Tuna being endangered by rampant over-fishing was raised last year, and as was ICCAT utterly disgraced as farce. This year ICCAT has been a lot more secretive and just as disgraceful... ... Stocks of bluefin tuna have duly plummeted... How few seasons of tuna are left at this pace of wanton destruction? The estimates from last year were of perhaps just a handful of years before complete collapse. Also, we don't yet know how (badly) the Gulf of Mexico oil spill has affected the unique species of tuna for that area... ... And now we have another round, and with added 'complications'... Sea Shepherd to Patrol Libyan War Zone for Bluefin Poachers ... while conservationists deplore the legal fishery, it is the poachers that worry them most. The NATO no-fly zone, in effect since March, means no inspectors from the European Union or the Madrid-based International Commission for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas, ICCAT, will be allowed to conduct surveillance from the air over Libyan waters. Surveillance for bluefin poachers will be non-existent - except for the nonprofit Sea Shepherd Conservation Society... It's our only one planet... Once it's gone, it's gone. Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 1109909 - Posted: 26 May 2011, 9:20:06 UTC
	Before the next attempt to save tuna for another year, some excellent partying by Sea Shepherd! Sea Shepherd Sails into a Star-studded Controversy at Cannes ... I was amazed at just how many people were aware of Sea Shepherd and Whale Wars. I was stopped continuously on the street for autographs and photo requests. Even Julian Lennon came up and said he was a fan. Michelle Rodriguez hosted a fundraising lunch for us with the enthusiasm only she can bring... ... All in all it was a great event and a good opportunity to promote Sea Shepherd, and the best part of it was that it did not take us out of our way because we are in Southern France preparing for our campaign to intercept bluefin tuna poachers in Libyan waters. After Cannes, the Steve Irwin moved westward along the coast to La Ciotat to see the Gojira returned to the water from drydock after a complete overhaul transferring Godzilla into a far more beautiful entity. From monster to beauty…the name change will officially take place tomorrow. ... It's our only one planet... Once it's gone, it's gone. Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10559 Credit: 5,267,194 RAC: 6,422	Message 1110211 - Posted: 27 May 2011, 3:13:04 UTC
	http://na.oceana.org/sites/default/files/reports/SeafoodFraudReport_2011.pdf ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 1113853 - Posted: 6 Jun 2011, 12:48:23 UTC - in response to Message 1110211.
	http://na.oceana.org/sites/default/files/reports/SeafoodFraudReport_2011.pdf Unfortunately, all too rife and rampant. Also, all very bad for both the seas and for ourselves. And all for the sake of a very few cynically greedy few. It's ALL our only one planet, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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