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Odysseus Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 1786 Credit: 3,745,409 RAC: 1,863	Message 1052121 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 2:35:13 UTC - in response to Message 1052114.
	Well, if it was I In charge, I'd give these guys a call (or a similar vendor) http://www.racksolutions.com/home/all-products-by-photo/server-racks-cabinets-enclosures.html "Fits any server" and see if they can build me one that works. They also say “Dell, HP, IBM, Cisco compatible”, which tends to imply that incompatibilities exist, and at any rate what the SSL seems to need is “Fits any collection of half a dozen assorted servers”. ;) ____________
	ID: 1052121 ·

Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 2866 Credit: 1,779,323 RAC: 237	Message 1052124 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 2:41:06 UTC - in response to Message 1052121.
	Well, if it was I In charge, I'd give these guys a call (or a similar vendor) http://www.racksolutions.com/home/all-products-by-photo/server-racks-cabinets-enclosures.html "Fits any server" and see if they can build me one that works. They also say “Dell, HP, IBM, Cisco compatible”, which tends to imply that incompatibilities exist, and at any rate what the SSL seems to need is “Fits any collection of half a dozen assorted servers”. ;) Unlike many other industries, the computer business has never had much success at generating standards through neutral bodies like ISO or IEC. Maybe because standards are typically on development cycles so much longer than the hardware and software. personally, I blame Bill Gates. ____________
	ID: 1052124 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 22343 Credit: 439,209 RAC: 396	Message 1052142 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 4:11:32 UTC - in response to Message 1052124.
	Well, if it was I In charge, I'd give these guys a call (or a similar vendor) http://www.racksolutions.com/home/all-products-by-photo/server-racks-cabinets-enclosures.html "Fits any server" and see if they can build me one that works. They also say “Dell, HP, IBM, Cisco compatible”, which tends to imply that incompatibilities exist, and at any rate what the SSL seems to need is “Fits any collection of half a dozen assorted servers”. ;) Unlike many other industries, the computer business has never had much success at generating standards through neutral bodies like ISO or IEC. Maybe because standards are typically on development cycles so much longer than the hardware and software. personally, I blame Bill Gates. If one standard is good, a dozen standards must be better! ____________ BOINC WIKI
	ID: 1052142 ·

Geek@Play Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2414 Credit: 79,016,596 RAC: 0	Message 1052145 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 4:20:00 UTC - in response to Message 1052050.
	Matt has probably thought of this and has an answer. Since the work that out in the field on client computers would be minimal when restarting the project perhaps the "resend" option could be turned on at the servers to eliminate the ghost problem. The resend option only increases server load. So not a good idea. And as every computer in the universe has no tasks and will be trying to make contact. It would be better to decrease the downloads/processor so that the host gets enough work for a few hours, and set the server enforced back-off to 60 mins and not the default 11 sec. The lower the server load the less likely chance of ghosts. I would think that having a (now cleaned up) data base that is lean, with no ghost work units waiting to be resent, would be more desirable. I would try to keep the ghosts out of it as they only bloat the data base with no benefits. Servers are going to be hit hard anyway and that is the precise time when ghosts are created. I would rather receive my resends than have them waiting to time out and get resent to someone else. ____________ Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
	ID: 1052145 ·

Tom95134 Send message Joined: 27 Nov 01 Posts: 205 Credit: 2,705,932 RAC: 2,378	Message 1052147 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 4:25:03 UTC
	You guys have all the fun! Nice job. Looking good. Of course now with everything cleaned up you'll never be able to find anything again. ____________
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uglybiker Send message Joined: 6 Dec 02 Posts: 14 Credit: 2,953,344 RAC: 707	Message 1052167 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 7:20:57 UTC - in response to Message 1052066. Last modified: 1 Dec 2010, 7:21:34 UTC
	The main problem with those cheap twist-ties is that the binding is metal, which can cause problems in a high-speed high-density data environment... Problem solved! :-P ____________
	ID: 1052167 ·

soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,517,599 RAC: 8,643	Message 1052189 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 11:14:19 UTC - in response to Message 1052167.
	The main problem with those cheap twist-ties is that the binding is metal, which can cause problems in a high-speed high-density data environment... Problem solved! :-P Actually industry standards lean more towards WAXED twine.. But when you get to patch panels they need to be somewhat loose. Which looks messy which makes management think something is wrong. Which is a pain. So wire it how it works and close the door so people do not nag over things that are NOT effecting how it works. ____________ Janice
	ID: 1052189 ·

Cheopis Send message Joined: 17 Sep 00 Posts: 126 Credit: 6,764,875 RAC: 8,052	Message 1052224 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 15:07:06 UTC - in response to Message 1051951.
	You can get twist ties free on loaves of bread :) All silliness aside, glad to hear things are moving along nicely.
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10325 Credit: 5,096,398 RAC: 6,297	Message 1052258 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 17:27:37 UTC - in response to Message 1052189.
	The main problem with those cheap twist-ties is that the binding is metal, which can cause problems in a high-speed high-density data environment... Problem solved! :-P Actually industry standards lean more towards WAXED twine.. But when you get to patch panels they need to be somewhat loose. Which looks messy which makes management think something is wrong. Which is a pain. So wire it how it works and close the door so people do not nag over things that are NOT effecting how it works. What may matter more is to have the cable lengths the same so the propagation delays are the same. After all on a multihomed system having different cable lengths for each interface could result in the system picking the one with the shorter length cables for essentially all traffic until that one overloads. That isn't the 50/50 split you want. ____________
	ID: 1052258 ·

mfbabb2 Send message Joined: 21 Apr 00 Posts: 8 Credit: 132,231 RAC: 0	Message 1052262 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 17:48:59 UTC
	"The nice thing about Standards is that there are so many to choose from!" Great work guys! Do whatever you need to do to make life easier in the future -- we can wait -- albeit impatiently in some cases. ____________
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