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Message 1045225 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 15:01:04 UTC - in response to Message 1045207.

Have never crunched anything but SETI.

Any recommendations for me.

21 machines Win XP or server OS.

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I have never crunched anything but SETI, and I never will. If SETI doesn't give me any WU's, then my machines gets turned off. I can't find any other project interesting or worthy.

It's SETI or nothing, from the beginning and until ET is found and interrogated, and put in a prison on the moon :-)

Since everyone says ET is actually using gravity waves to communicate, you should be crunching for Einstein ... ;)

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Message 1045245 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 16:43:30 UTC - in response to Message 1045225.
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Have never crunched anything but SETI.

Any recommendations for me.

21 machines Win XP or server OS.

Thanks in advance.


I have never crunched anything but SETI, and I never will. If SETI doesn't give me any WU's, then my machines gets turned off. I can't find any other project interesting or worthy.

It's SETI or nothing, from the beginning and until ET is found and interrogated, and put in a prison on the moon :-)

Since everyone says ET is actually using gravity waves to communicate, you should be crunching for Einstein ... ;)



If "everyone" which must include also the SETI scientist, or else it would not be "everyone", says that "ET is actually using gravity waves to communicate", then why are they running this project at all, one might wonder :-)

Is it only to have a job to go to?

Edit/added:

And since everyone says that ET is actually using gravity waves to communicate, I take it that alla the results we returned, are never analyzed at all, because why analyze radio results when ET is actually using gravity waves to communicate?

Gosh, I've been fooled and it's time to shut down my computers. I may be fooled if I join Einstein too, so I'd better stop participating in all distributed computing projects.

Hehe, what a world...
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Message 1045247 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 16:48:38 UTC - in response to Message 1045245.

Since everyone says ET is actually using gravity waves to communicate, you should be crunching for Einstein ... ;)



If "everyone" which must include also the SETI scientist, or else it would not be "everyone", says that "ET is actually using gravity waves to communicate", then why are they running this project at all, one might wonder :-)

Cause there is always one who needs to mental institute :-)

Is it only to have a job to go to? Are we all being fooled?. Heheh

We will know that in a millennia.

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Message 1045265 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 18:23:59 UTC - in response to Message 1044998.

You could try MilkyWay@home, but if you don't have a beefy enough GPU (>512 MB), and aren't running BOINC for at least 4-5 hours per day, I wouldn't recommend it due to the size of the work units and the relatively short deadlines (when crunching with the CPU alone, work units may take 30 hours or more, and the deadline is 8 days).


I'm using optimized aps for MilkyWay, and my dual core CPU with 1G of RAM takes about 5 hours for a WU. Deadlines are usually 7 to 10 days.
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Message 1045267 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 18:41:22 UTC

It has to be said that World Community Grid really does offer the best humanitarian projects to crunch for these days. They have a funny credits system which no one has quite worked out yet, and it doesn't pay very well, but you get a nice warm feeling :-)

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Message 1045284 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 20:27:04 UTC - in response to Message 1045205.

I´ve got a few einstein tasks to keep my Phenom busy.
Added Collatz to test my GPU (HD 5770)
Thinking about Milkyway too.



Congratulations on getting your Phenon running with Einstein, Mike. The latter came back on the servers this afternoon.

Einstein on my Penryn@3.85GHz take 7.5 hours.

Your AMD HD5770 should give you an RAC of about 140K to 150K on Collatz. But, unfortunately, the GPU does not support double precision. which means it will not work with Milkyway. The ATI/AMD GPUs that do work on Milkyway are - a 3850/70, or a 4850/70 4970 or a 5850/70 or 5970.

The other GPU project, which should see an RAC of 160K on the HD5770 is DNETC.

Happy crunching until S@H is back up.
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Message 1045301 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 21:13:19 UTC - in response to Message 1044634.

It doesn't run under BOINC so no RAC or BOINC points but

http://folding.stanford.edu/

Folding@home will run on cpus and the proper ATI and Nvidia gpus, Linux, Windows, etc.

It's medical research.

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Message 1045306 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 21:24:22 UTC - in response to Message 1045284.
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The ATI/AMD GPUs that do work on Milkyway are - a 3850/70, or a 4850/70 4970 or a 5850/70 or 5970.


HD 5830 works, too, I'm using a couple of them.
[edit] And HD 4770, was using a couple of those for a while, too...

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Message 1045321 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 22:32:23 UTC - in response to Message 1045265.
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I'm using optimized aps for MilkyWay, and my dual core CPU with 1G of RAM takes about 5 hours for a WU. Deadlines are usually 7 to 10 days.


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AFAIK, the old opt. CPU app don't work with the new WUs..
At least not on my E7600.

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/apps.php
MW@h have since 07. Oct. a new CPU app (V0.4).
Also additional a new CPU(-only) app, nbody V0.21 .


EDIT: AFAIK, stock (CPU and) GPU apps are (currently) the fastest.
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Message 1045357 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 1:29:50 UTC

Maybe Milkyway downloaded a new executable without me noticing. At any rate, my CPU today still takes 5 hours or less per WU.

And I still get this message when I start up BOINC:

31/10/2010 2:16:09 PM Milkyway@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform

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Message 1045363 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 2:13:56 UTC - in response to Message 1045048.

milkyway@home
einstein@home
cosmology@home
orbit@home


Something odd over at cosmolgy@home. You might want to review the message boards first.

No work at the moment at orbit@home. They also are undergoing a hardware upgrade.



Yeah I'm not really sure what's up with cosmology@home tbh. I don't really feel like calling the guy to find out.

From what I understand in This Post He's working away from the project and theres nobody looking after it.

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Message 1045366 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 2:44:29 UTC - in response to Message 1045363.

IOW, it's a zombie. How apropos for Halloween.

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Message 1045405 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 6:24:55 UTC - in response to Message 1044654.

A similar list here -- for CPU crunching -- plus Climate, Spinhenge and Aqua.

For GPU crunching -- Collatz, Dnetc, Milkyway.




If you want heavy-duty, long-running wu's - try http://climateprediction.net/

They trundle along for long hours, with credit assigned along the way.

Others are Einstein, Docking, Rosetta, Poem - see the BOINC list. These seem to play nice. I stopped PrimeGrid because it kept assigning wu's with short turnaround so they were always running as high priority. Didn't seem like they played nice with others.

(Edited to fix late-night grammar.)


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Message 1045429 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 9:06:15 UTC - in response to Message 1045321.

I'm using optimized aps for MilkyWay, and my dual core CPU with 1G of RAM takes about 5 hours for a WU. Deadlines are usually 7 to 10 days.


?

AFAIK, the old opt. CPU app don't work with the new WUs..
At least not on my E7600.

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/apps.php
MW@h have since 07. Oct. a new CPU app (V0.4).
Also additional a new CPU(-only) app, nbody V0.21 .


EDIT: AFAIK, stock (CPU and) GPU apps are (currently) the fastest.


Yep, have noticed that too.

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Message 1045436 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 12:24:34 UTC - in response to Message 1045357.

Maybe Milkyway downloaded a new executable without me noticing. At any rate, my CPU today still takes 5 hours or less per WU.

And I still get this message when I start up BOINC:

31/10/2010 2:16:09 PM Milkyway@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform


Hmm.. strange..

I was curious and looked at your PC at MW@h.
In the tasks overview I saw:

<stderr_txt>
Running Milkyway@home version 0.19 by Gipsel
relabeled by input argument in app_info.xml to version -np
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5750 @ 2.00GHz (2 cores/threads) 1.99522 GHz (2204ms)

WU completed. It took 15665.6 seconds CPU time and 20064.6 seconds wall clock time @ 1.78869 GHz.

</stderr_txt>


Strange, which extension app is this? The SSE2?
It's an app from here: http://www.arkayn.us/milkyway ?
In app_info.xml file, which <version_num> you use, 19, 21, 40?

I used the SSE3 app and didn't worked.
The WU 'calculated' ~ 20 mins and the % progress didn't changed.

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Message 1045437 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 12:26:55 UTC - in response to Message 1045429.
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I'm using optimized aps for MilkyWay, and my dual core CPU with 1G of RAM takes about 5 hours for a WU. Deadlines are usually 7 to 10 days.


?

AFAIK, the old opt. CPU app don't work with the new WUs..
At least not on my E7600.

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/apps.php
MW@h have since 07. Oct. a new CPU app (V0.4).
Also additional a new CPU(-only) app, nbody V0.21 .


EDIT: AFAIK, stock (CPU and) GPU apps are (currently) the fastest.


Yep, have noticed that too.


From your projects overview, you don't let run MW@h.
Why/from where you know this? ;-) (if you meant that the opt. app don't work)
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Message 1045439 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 12:38:39 UTC - in response to Message 1045436.

Sutaru;

Yes, I downloaded optimized aps from Arkyans's site many moons ago. Haven't really watched closely since then. Here is my MilkyWay ap_info file:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>milkyway</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astronomy_0.19_SSSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway</app_name>
<version_num>16</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astronomy_0.19_SSSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway</app_name>
<version_num>19</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astronomy_0.19_SSSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
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Message 1045441 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 13:14:45 UTC - in response to Message 1045439.

Thanks!

I test again the opt. SSE3 CPU app as milkyway 0.19 .
BOINC got WUs, but normally he shouldn't, because 0.19 isn't current.
The calculation time increase (now ~ 30 mins, in past ~ 2 hours/WU), estimate time decrease, but the % progress stay at 0. The CPU temp increase, so something is calculating.. ;-) ..or this are only 'calculation loops'.

Funny, from where you have the SSSE3 app? This was the x87 app? (But this was in the 32bit area)
I DLed the SSE3 app in past.

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Message 1045442 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 13:23:58 UTC - in response to Message 1045441.
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Strange, your app is named: astronomy_0.19_SSSE3.exe .
My app: astronomy_0.21_SSE3.exe .

Maybe your app is a previously version?

I have my/this app in app_info.xml nevertheless as 0.19 named (because 0.19 was in past the currently stock version, before 0.40).
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Message 1045444 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 14:05:00 UTC - in response to Message 1045442.

I think it is an old optimized ap. My copy of the executable is dated July 2009. I get WUs steadily, they are all 4.5 to 5 hours to complete, and I think I had maybe one WU hang up in the last year. I get slightly more RAC per CPU hour with this than with optimized S@H.

From posts over at the MW Forums, it looks like the newer stock aps are sometimes fast, but are causing problems on some operating systems. I will stick with this until I see a reason to change.

Note to mods: I know this is all way off topic, but I hope you will let us sort out how to run other projects until the REAL project comes back.
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