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Message 1044738 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 14:06:01 UTC
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BUT it's ALWAYS down?... Tuesday---Sunday?...
Got all my Machines sitting and Waiting for Tasks, and the answer is:

Project has NO Tasks..


I Like to Help, and have for YEARS now, But this is crazy..
I Run SETI 100%, and half the time I either have a Machine Hang, or NO server with Tasks?
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Message 1044746 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 14:54:48 UTC - in response to Message 1044568.
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Super that we will also be able to return seit beta WU's!

I think it will be taking a few weeks to fix the server, and since deliverie of the server from HP will also cost around 2 weeks, i would think that 4 weeks is the bare minimal for what the seti project crew has to do on the DB servers.
But i'm not in any way connected to the seti project, it's just my estimation.
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Message 1044749 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 15:02:57 UTC - in response to Message 1044738.
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BUT it's ALWAYS down?... Tuesday---Sunday?...
Got all my Machines sitting and Waiting for Tasks, and the answer is:

Project has NO Tasks..


I Like to Help, and have for YEARS now, But this is crazy..
I Run SETI 100%, and half the time I either have a Machine Hang, or NO server with Tasks?


Becaus a project has to fix some mayor problems it's crazy that you don't get WU's? that's crazy!
Connect to some other project for the time being or turn off your seti machines for the time being.
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Message 1044756 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 15:41:20 UTC - in response to Message 1044738.

Make absolutely sure that you do not read any posts in the thread you're complaining in. Not even when there's a 99% possibility that you get answered before complaining.
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Message 1044803 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 17:40:23 UTC - in response to Message 1044738.

BUT it's ALWAYS down?... Tuesday---Sunday?...
Got all my Machines sitting and Waiting for Tasks, and the answer is:

Project has NO Tasks..


I Like to Help, and have for YEARS now, But this is crazy..
I Run SETI 100%, and half the time I either have a Machine Hang, or NO server with Tasks?



I hate to say it, but unless you have another reason to be running the PCs, why not just switch them off? Its a simple solution to the problem. After all, it is likely to be, quite some time before more WUs are sent out. If you have money to burn or are a share-holder in a Power Generation or Supply company, then, perhaps consider doing work for another project. As Aleksandr the Meerkat would say, "simples".



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Message 1044809 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 17:57:01 UTC

I have an amazing thought. Why not take apart all those computers that have been doing Seti and clean out all the dust bunnies. Then when Seti comes back they will be fresh and ready to go for another 3 months without cleaning.
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Message 1044835 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 19:42:49 UTC

with disableed downloads it's not possible to get resends:

29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 31mr10ae.26593.11115.14.10.40_0
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 31my10ab.8143.393322.6.10.181_1
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 31mr10ae.26593.11115.14.10.42_0
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 31mr10ae.26593.11115.14.10.48_0
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 31mr10ae.26593.11115.14.10.47_1
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 21ap10ad.28395.9888.16.10.117_3
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 05no09ac.1964.12751.7.10.35_4
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 04no09aa.28110.19850.14.10.165_4
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 28ja10ab.27066.17009.12.10.254_2
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 21ap10ac.623.18472.16.10.248.vlar_2
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 28ja10ab.27066.17009.12.10.23_2
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 06ap10aa.26354.138463.3.10.175_2
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 06ap10aa.26354.138463.3.10.212_2
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 05no09ac.1964.12751.7.10.42_3
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 05no09ac.1483.7434.5.10.66_4
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 06ap10aa.26354.138054.3.10.249_2
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 28ja10ab.27066.17009.12.10.25_2
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 05no09ac.1964.12751.7.10.60_3
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 06ap10aa.26354.138463.3.10.230_2
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Resent lost task 05no09ac.1964.12751.7.10.122_3
29/10/2010 23:26:32 SETI@home Message from server: Project has no tasks available
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 31mr10ae.26593.11115.14.10.40
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 31my10ab.8143.393322.6.10.181
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 31mr10ae.26593.11115.14.10.42
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 31mr10ae.26593.11115.14.10.48
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 31mr10ae.26593.11115.14.10.47
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 21ap10ad.28395.9888.16.10.117
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 05no09ac.1964.12751.7.10.35
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 04no09aa.28110.19850.14.10.165
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 28ja10ab.27066.17009.12.10.254
29/10/2010 23:26:35 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 21ap10ac.623.18472.16.10.248.vlar
29/10/2010 23:31:37 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.


Maybe it's better not to split new work while allow resends go ?

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Message 1044850 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 21:07:20 UTC
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Suggested as much myself in an earlier thread, but I don't know if the download servers themselves induce load on the DB server. If they do, then that alone is pause. Would be nice to get them through the pipe though as it'll ease the move when it happens.

Definitely leave the splitters off though. Turning them on is a quick way to induce another DB crash.
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Message 1044875 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 23:35:22 UTC

please exuse my ignorance i am computer elliterate, but i am willing to let my machine number crunch because i love looking at the sky and hope that one day we will find that thing that we who live in hope will find.

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Message 1044881 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 23:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1044571.

I understand the need to replace the unreliable servers. Hopefully, that will fix all the recent outages (in the last few months). Thank you for the post.

Query: Can you give us a time schedule when the new BOINC server and the new backup server will be online? Several days? :) Weeks? :| Worse? :(

Tnx,
Al


I have an online date, in the pool, of December 7th.

Just in time for the 3 day outage. :)

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Message 1044982 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 8:55:40 UTC

Quick solution : use the new chinese super-computer ;-)
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Message 1045012 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 14:46:53 UTC - in response to Message 1044881.

online 'raffle' my date is going to be dec 17

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Message 1045016 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 15:36:07 UTC - in response to Message 1045012.

My "pool" date is December 6th. December 7th will be the biggest crash in Seti history as 100,000 users all try to download 10 days of work within 2 hours. The 2 replacement machines will get up and leave for the abuse they are taking!!!!



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Message 1045021 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 16:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 1045016.

some of the faster rigs will be returning wu's in the first 2 hours while some may not get work in 2 hours after start up

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Message 1045122 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 23:04:51 UTC

Did you consider using a cloud like AWS instead of hardware servers?
I mean for the backend, not for computing..


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Message 1045167 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 3:08:26 UTC

have no WU's to send so should i turn off boinc until towards the end of November as it keeps trying to connect for new WU's?
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Message 1045182 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 3:53:26 UTC - in response to Message 1045167.

Nah, you should donate your spare CPU time to another worthy project.

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Message 1045252 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 17:01:21 UTC

What kind of servers? Just curious how much muscle (or lack there of) it takes to run seti...

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Message 1045254 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 17:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 1045252.

What kind of servers? Just curious how much muscle (or lack there of) it takes to run seti...


The stats of the new servers were posted in the Technical News forum
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Message 1045261 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 17:43:29 UTC

I'm still unable to upload any seti@home BETA WU's is the beta upload already started?
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